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标题: 《残排杂感》一则实战残局的讨论 [打印本页]

作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2009-11-10 11:41
标题: 《残排杂感》一则实战残局的讨论
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作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2009-11-11 15:35
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作者: 天宇浪人 时间: 2009-11-14 12:50
感谢星海兄参与讨论，回复晚了，还请见谅。马三退四变着黑取车7平8变着，最后因黑有士象，根据以往实用残局书籍，应该是能胜马兵双仕的吧。其余变着待有时间细看！总之非常感谢星海兄的有益讨论，也欢迎大家对拙作多提意见和建议！

作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2009-11-14 17:11
首着马三退四，第3回合有马四进五和马四进二两种选择，马四进五比较稳妥，马四进二较凶险，天宇兄所言甚是，此变是最没把握的走法，有可能黑胜，也有可能走成巧和。欢迎更多人参与讨论，人多了容易看出问题。

作者: 天宇浪人 时间: 2009-11-14 19:06
首着马三退四，第3回合马四进五变着中，第14回合应走车9退2，这在书中有介绍：“这步棋很关键，当时拆解几乎是在要放弃的时候发现的，作用是禁止红扬高仕。”

作者: 天宇浪人 时间: 2009-11-15 09:00
[quote]首着马三退四，第3回合马四进五变着中，第14回合应走车9退2，这在书中有介绍：“这步棋很关键，当时拆解几乎是在要放弃的时候发现的，作用是禁止红扬高仕。” ... 哦，兵的位置不对！不好意思。

作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2009-11-16 10:37
书中黑方取胜的前题是红方联兵在骑河线，如果红方有机会在黑方亮开中路之前进兵卒林线且在中路联手，此局似能走和。

作者: 天宇浪人 时间: 2009-11-16 18:03
恩，红方似乎有足够的时间来调整阵型。先来讨论逃马变例：首着红若马三退四的话，黑接走车7退1吃兵而不吃相怎样？红余下的三兵应该没有可能形成联兵了，关键是黑方能否在灭兵的同时，阻止红方走成只马当相和型？

作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2009-11-17 09:35
如果黑方选择吃兵，红方相飞中路，以后有马看相，不要兵即可守和。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999993949484759999999999999999999999930404160994699999999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 天宇浪人 时间: 2009-11-18 18:01
恩，看来此局结论和棋无疑了。再次感谢星海兄！

作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2009-11-19 13:02
天宇兄客气了。兵三平四大概才是最简捷的和法，马三退四一变仍需要研究，黑方第三回合退士会形成复杂局面，难以把握。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999993949486967999999996406468699999930404160996599999999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]675965696454696559474150[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1]645465674645676948596966454466065948068644434150545386565363[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment1]另一种选择[/DhtmlXQ_comment1] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_9_3]39480686444386565453415053634041635356555363553563534131[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_9_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_5_18_4]415043338636534340413323[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_18_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_2_13_5]3948760644430686545386564837[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_13_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_9]\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_9] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_9]![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_9] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_6]5978657578577579485979745453745439485453464553560605560686850605858405094839090439480484483741505948404157658485655785894859898759484151493987893938514157654131454489194434191465533041343314543343540443330403534503054557051538391519393819095745[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_6] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_6_2]65684645687845447879485979765948[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_6_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_37_7]374887674939[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_37_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_7_39_8]4544676457366042493964653949653536574131444335154333155533434260433355353343350548390503[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_39_8] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_42_9]8984383951413949[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_42_9] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_48_10]191565571514343314135745304138391319393841524553[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_48_10] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_6_11]655547665556464556664544660644430686545341504959865659494041536356666353666948596989394889834939838548378589374889864837[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_6_11] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 象棋法官 时间: 2014-9-3 13:19
2楼形成逐鹿江湖类似局面。

作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2014-12-4 15:53
本帖最后由 ★星海★ 于 2014-12-4 15:55 编辑

保马的变化，14回合的局面黑方必胜。
红方变着看看：
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作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2014-12-4 15:59
13楼末尾和势。黑方前面会不会有软着？

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