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标题: 扑朔迷离的“大五虎”研讨成果 [打印本页]

作者: dave7788 时间: 2010-8-24 20:54
标题: 扑朔迷离的“大五虎”研讨成果
[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]8699299949999999858799633161207058476499509942994099990838460323[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title] 大五虎（红先和）[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]梅桔[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]61604260706050518581515286826482818252518281515263625242878258528252423231414766818440418434324234384171383042416050665430404131522271794948797662520818403031413034547534377554375746472947547557557678484978794948756755577969483867593848596748386759384859674838675938485967[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_1]40208141423252504768495946476252[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_2]40608141423241466062464762695259[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_2] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_25]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_25] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]47685258464749594060814142326252[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_25]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_25] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_4]476681844647844442324434324234384060383660623616423231413242415142321612323112113132514132425250474849396263504042521112[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_4] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_47] [DhtmlXQ_move_4_34_5]47484939425216125251126266456268[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_34_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_41] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_6]40606261607081823242615170795259[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_6] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_21]以下黑有三种走法均负：[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_21] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_27]解将还将，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_27] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_22_7]476852583242415142328182323161604647824247484959[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_22_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_33]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_33] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_22_8]476652506674616046478151474849593242504042325152[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_22_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_33]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_33] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_9]464784343242343840413836474849394131363108185258484939386658625242523130[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_9] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]黑下着有三种应法均负：[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_39] [DhtmlXQ_move_9_28_10]417136464232466671795259[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_28_10] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_33]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_33] [DhtmlXQ_move_9_34_11]6658625242523141[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_34_11] [DhtmlXQ_comment11_37]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_37] [DhtmlXQ_move_9_26_12]4060383360623343423229476654476562524323[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_26_12] [DhtmlXQ_comment12_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_35] [DhtmlXQ_move_12_28_13]42413343415129476062476562655256[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_28_13] [DhtmlXQ_comment13_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_35] [DhtmlXQ_move_9_26_14]424162614142383666545282402049395473363242418272[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_26_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment14_37]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_37] [DhtmlXQ_move_14_28_15]40205272202261514151383151527222[/DhtmlXQ_move_14_28_15] [DhtmlXQ_comment15_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_35] [DhtmlXQ_move_14_32_16]4252367647484959[/DhtmlXQ_move_14_32_16] [DhtmlXQ_comment16_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_35] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_17]08185259424162527175304041405251[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_17] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_18]665452534241625271794948547548387567303141406050[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment18_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_39] [DhtmlXQ_move_18_34_19]5473304041405251[/DhtmlXQ_move_18_34_19] [DhtmlXQ_comment19_37]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_37] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_20]6658525742416252717660500818304041314948182852422838485846474041[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_20] [DhtmlXQ_comment20_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_43] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_21]7175304042325256665440303242625242413032[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_21] [DhtmlXQ_move_21_32_22]665862525837493932315242[/DhtmlXQ_move_21_32_22] [DhtmlXQ_comment22_37]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_37] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_23]41515253717340427353626151504241[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_23] [DhtmlXQ_comment23_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_39] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_24]5462404671412242415150606254463631413616515216114140424852622947544249396260115160642030[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_24] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_25]54754030314148384636303675673631414231516746384879736252423251617343294708186162465462653231655554334838314155854131858243475242[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment25_67]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_67] [DhtmlXQ_move_25_40_26]756730314142313242416252[/DhtmlXQ_move_25_40_26] [DhtmlXQ_comment26_45]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_45] [DhtmlXQ_move_25_48_27]4232515646346252797452423442564642344643[/DhtmlXQ_move_25_48_27] [DhtmlXQ_comment27_57]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_57] [DhtmlXQ_move_25_58_28]2324655554335535242535343231222343453433314133302535304041315242[/DhtmlXQ_move_25_58_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment28_73]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_73] [DhtmlXQ_move_25_60_29]5473525131325535324248384252514152424131182838394252353252513272[/DhtmlXQ_move_25_60_29] [DhtmlXQ_comment29_75]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_75] [DhtmlXQ_move_25_62_30]434455354443524203043515[/DhtmlXQ_move_25_62_30] [DhtmlXQ_comment30_67]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_67] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_35] [DhtmlXQ_comment46]！余俊瑞先生提出。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46] [DhtmlXQ_comment68]和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment68] [DhtmlXQ_comment24_55]红胜（白宏宽先生拟变）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_55] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_45_34]37174131171131321114232414244647[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_45_34] [DhtmlXQ_comment34_52]余卫东先生提出！黑可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_52] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_35]383471743430424160506654304041315222747949487976[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_35] [DhtmlXQ_comment35_38]与主着法异途同归。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_38] [DhtmlXQ_move_35_36_36]2324[/DhtmlXQ_move_35_36_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment36_36]书谱有以此变作和的。余卫东先生指出，应为红胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_36] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_46_31]54335251414257874252516152428783[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_46_31] [DhtmlXQ_comment31_53]余卫东先生提出！红可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_53] [DhtmlXQ_move_31_53_32]87824241828333546151[/DhtmlXQ_move_31_53_32] [DhtmlXQ_comment32_57]余俊瑞先生提出！和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_57] [DhtmlXQ_move_32_57_33]22827672[/DhtmlXQ_move_32_57_33] [DhtmlXQ_comment33_58]！敖日西先生提出，黑可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_58] [DhtmlXQ_move_32_56_37]3325[/DhtmlXQ_move_32_56_37] [DhtmlXQ_comment37_56]书谱有以此作和的。余卫东先生指出，此着劣，红可胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_56] [DhtmlXQ_comment34]敖日西先生提出进车照再车8退3！[/DhtmlXQ_comment34] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_42_38]76563414[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_42_38] [DhtmlXQ_comment38_43]余卫东、张林生先生指出，红可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_43] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_39]3836[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_39] [DhtmlXQ_comment39_27]沈济英先生增变并指出，此变黑可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_27] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_40]3808[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_40] [DhtmlXQ_comment40_27]沈济英先生增变并指出，此变黑可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_27] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_57_42]2232182832376968484928385767384849394838394968673767[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_57_42] [DhtmlXQ_comment42_57]此变张林生先生所拟。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_57] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]小结一下8个月研讨的成果，先整理出个框架，有时间再细说——[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_comment42_69]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_69] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: dave7788 时间: 2010-8-26 15:50
[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999479948999999572299529999205099759999419999997699991899990323[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title] 大五虎（红先和）[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]梅桔[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]57537646483846363848756753576775575375674849364653576775[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]是否和棋，还未定论。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_1]76784849787949487939525141312262756753573959626131325767[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_15] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_4_2]7838537341317375[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_4_2] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_7]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_6_3]75674838[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_6_3] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_7]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_8_4]41424858393858574232535232315242[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_8_4] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_15] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_7]533375674838675938484647485859782242786658594748[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_14]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_6_5]755648585677584877564858567547653638585738395251413153737567226239595747675547485536483818283837595765475751622251582228582873333141333628273738274736314142313042525060474130334145[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_6_5] [DhtmlXQ_move_5_10_6]776948493646525141424959[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_10_6] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_15] [DhtmlXQ_move_5_7_8]48494131495956685958365653566856[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_7_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_14]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_5_33_9]73333141333651593646415162325919[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_33_9] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_40] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_21]？！[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_21] [DhtmlXQ_move_5_21_10]2252[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_21_10][DhtmlXQ_comment10_21]！？[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_21] [DhtmlXQ_move_5_48_11]52513050514120304787504041513848[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_48_11][DhtmlXQ_comment11_55]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_55] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: dave7788 时间: 2010-8-27 13:45
[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]8699299949999999859987206170633158476499509942994099994623380308[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]大五虎（红先）[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark]118[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]6160426070605051858151528182525182815152868264828182525182815152636252428782585282524232314147668184404184343242344442324434324234384171[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1]865646568555475587804260[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]解将还将，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_6] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_2]855558558656476856586482878846474959475758385575[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_3]63625242864642324636473581413848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_4]6482636252428782585286464232625232314640[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_4] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_5]40208141423252504768495946476252[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_29] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_6]40608141423241466062464762695259[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_6] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_29] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_7]47685258464749594060814142326252[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_29] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_8]47668184464784444232443432423438406038366062361642323141324241514232161232311242[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_8] [DhtmlXQ_move_8_38_9]47484939425216125251126266456268[/DhtmlXQ_move_8_38_9] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_45]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_45] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_10]8141404131414766525346475373384849596678[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_10] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_32]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_32] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_11]81883839494847662030464729474047[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_11] [DhtmlXQ_comment11_30]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_30] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_12]312140455257463681883637625238394948373848584755[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_12] [DhtmlXQ_comment12_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_34] [DhtmlXQ_move_12_25_13]813132423138463638364728[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_25_13] [DhtmlXQ_comment13_30]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_30] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_14]5250476662523848494846474849474849596678[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment14_32]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_32] [DhtmlXQ_move_14_25_15]8188463649593839[/DhtmlXQ_move_14_25_15] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_16]40606261607081823242615170795259[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_16] [DhtmlXQ_comment16_25]以下黑有三种走法均负：[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment16_31]解将还将，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_31] [DhtmlXQ_move_16_26_17]4768525832424151[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_26_17] [DhtmlXQ_move_16_26_18]476652506674616046478151474849593242504042325152[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_26_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment18_37]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_37] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_19]41404647818847484959324252564849[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_19] [DhtmlXQ_comment19_32]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_32] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_20]464784343242343840413836474849394131363108185258484939386658625242523130[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_20] [DhtmlXQ_comment20_29]以下黑有三种走法均负：[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_29] [DhtmlXQ_comment20_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_43] [DhtmlXQ_move_20_38_21]6658625242523141[/DhtmlXQ_move_20_38_21] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_41] [DhtmlXQ_move_20_32_22]417136464232466671795259[/DhtmlXQ_move_20_32_22] [DhtmlXQ_comment22_37]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_37] [DhtmlXQ_move_20_30_23]4060383360623343423229476654476562524323[/DhtmlXQ_move_20_30_23] [DhtmlXQ_comment23_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_39] [DhtmlXQ_move_23_32_24]42413343415129476062476562655256[/DhtmlXQ_move_23_32_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment24_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_39] [DhtmlXQ_move_20_30_25]424162614142383666545282402049395473363242418272[/DhtmlXQ_move_20_30_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment25_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_41] [DhtmlXQ_move_25_36_26]4252367647484959[/DhtmlXQ_move_25_36_26] [DhtmlXQ_comment26_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_39] [DhtmlXQ_move_25_32_27]40205272202261514151383151527222[/DhtmlXQ_move_25_32_27] [DhtmlXQ_comment27_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_39] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_28]444146474144384849596678[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment28_36]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_12]！（书谱是走象5进7也胜）黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_12] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment15_28]！黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_29] [DhtmlXQ_comment22_35]！（书谱是走相七进五也能胜）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_35] [DhtmlXQ_comment27_35]！（书谱是走炮二进一亦能胜）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_35] [DhtmlXQ_comment25_35]！（书谱是走帅五平六也能胜）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_35] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]序战着法（与书谱不同的地方已标明，但因手中资料不全，所标明的改进之处仅是参考我看到的书谱）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_comment7]可直接走后车进四。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7] [DhtmlXQ_comment29]可直接走车六退四。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29] [DhtmlXQ_comment34]序战结束，如图红有多种走法，其中车六进八与车六进四为正，分述如下：[/DhtmlXQ_comment34] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: dave7788 时间: 2010-8-27 14:30
[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999299949999999389952209960629999669999429999997199994623990308[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]一、车六平九？与炮四退七？（红走劣黑胜）[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark]118[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]3808717808066654525078794948792950402928484928270605546605062747493966583938471738481718484958374939463606363758[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment28]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28][DhtmlXQ_comment1]书谱没有此变，这是沈济英先生所加，并指出这是劣着，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1]525971753830754549394636393808185958454838394849393849393839665839381828[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1][DhtmlXQ_comment1_1]劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_1][DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14][DhtmlXQ_comment1_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_18] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_3_2]493966473949475938587579493959783938792958547859384846474858474858572927[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_3_2][DhtmlXQ_comment2_20]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_20] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_3]0803783803024241020141425250464750404232[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_3][DhtmlXQ_comment3_12]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_12] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_4]08057828525946476252424129472827[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_4][DhtmlXQ_comment4_10]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_10] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_5]0807787952596678[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_5][DhtmlXQ_comment5_6]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_6] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_6]6252425250542928484946474959474806092827[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_6][DhtmlXQ_comment6_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_18] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: dave7788 时间: 2010-8-27 14:48
[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999299949999999389952209960629999669999429999997199994623990308[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]二、车六进二？与车六进五？（红走劣黑胜）[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark]118[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]383666543634717949487978484954625259787434387444384862745950745550404232485855675838463649394434403032423036344438684449393867463837465868584946[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment36]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]车六进二是沈济英先生增加的变着，并指出：红此着劣，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1]383366543343423243447179494879295253292444402427403032424838463630362725363242416252253532355435[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_24] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_3_2]3353717949487929483846365343423238483637[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_3_2] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_12]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_12] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_9_3]44544647484729494757495957475954[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_9_3] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_16] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_13_4]625246474047274748472324[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_13_4] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_18] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_5]5250717949487929504008184046292848492827494854666252424148381828383966473949283836384768495927573858575859582324[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_30]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_30] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_6]34444252444678744643745443425251426254444939514162680818[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_6] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_22]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_22] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_7]3949363738683747403034442947444749593242[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_34] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_1]劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_1] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: dave7788 时间: 2010-8-27 15:28
[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999299949999999389952209960629999669999429999997199994623990308[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]三、车六进四（红先）[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark]118[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]38347174343042416050665430404131522274794948797662520818[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_1]717534444232525666584434324256500818625242525058757949487978345452425444425244467858484918284640[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_7]！白宏宽、余卫东先生提出。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_7_2]49487578625258774849784849594838444638394649394959497756[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_7_2] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_7]诠注本的走法，劣着，误作红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_20]红走劣黑幸胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_20] [DhtmlXQ_comment14]至此，与第四种走法车六进八异途同归，以下变化请阅红第四种走法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_3]23246252242522230818235318284030314130327479494879784849783852424151321246474252514112113831525141421131474849592838314142324147[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_3] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_10]诠注本以此变误作和棋。余卫东先生指出，卒3进1劣，红胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_10] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_41] [DhtmlXQ_move_3_14_4]2535235374794948792952424647483847373848373848385446384846675357[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_14_4] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_29] [DhtmlXQ_move_3_24_5]28385242415132315150425250402030[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_24_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_31]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_31] [DhtmlXQ_comment1]古谱的走法。黑下着车8进3，红还须再车六进四，此着可直接走车六进八。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: yanyun 时间: 2010-8-27 15:42

作者: dave7788 时间: 2010-8-27 17:02
[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999299949999999389952209960629999669999429999997199994623990308[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]四、车六进八（红先）[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark]118[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]38304241605066543040413152227179494879766252081840303141303454753437755437574647294754755755767848497879494875675557796948386759384859672232182832376968484928385767384849394838394968673767[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment20]！！！余俊瑞先生提出的神妙之着，或许能够保持此局原和棋的结论。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20] [DhtmlXQ_comment1]有的诠注本以此变作红胜，因而得出此局红胜的结论。无论其结论正确与否，但原诠正着法肯定是错误的。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_1]7175304042325256665440303242625242413032[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_11]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_11] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_7]！（书谱是走后兵平四）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_6_2]665862525837493932315242[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_6_2] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_11]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_11] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_3]6654525342416252717949485473304041405251[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_3] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_9]！（突破书谱的走法）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_9] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_11]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_11] [DhtmlXQ_move_3_8_4]54754838[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_8_4] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_9]突破书谱的走法，绝杀红胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_9] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]665852574241605071766252081830404131494818285242283848587678585938484041[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_19]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_19] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_6]081852594241625271753040[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_6] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_7]此着是余卫东先生提出！（书谱是走车六平四）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment8]进车照再退车保中卒，是敖日西先生帖子里的！[/DhtmlXQ_comment8] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_7]5462404671412242415150606254463631413616515216114140424852622947544249396260115160642030[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_8]这是诠注本的走法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_17]！（诠注本此着是走炮五退六也可胜。因诠注本再前面没有走出进车照再退车保卒的好招，所以得出红胜的结论）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_17] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_29] [DhtmlXQ_comment23]张林生先生拟着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23][DhtmlXQ_comment47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_8]547540303141483846363036756736314142315167463848797362524232516173432947081861624654626532316555543348384344553544435242030435154342151131322242[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_8][DhtmlXQ_comment8_45]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_45] [DhtmlXQ_move_8_14_9]756730314142313242416252[/DhtmlXQ_move_8_14_9][DhtmlXQ_comment9_19]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_19] [DhtmlXQ_move_8_22_10]4232515646346252797452423442564642344643[/DhtmlXQ_move_8_22_10][DhtmlXQ_comment10_25]！（书谱是走车四平六）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_25][DhtmlXQ_comment10_31]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_31] [DhtmlXQ_move_8_32_11]23246555543355352425353432312223[/DhtmlXQ_move_8_32_11][DhtmlXQ_comment11_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_39] [DhtmlXQ_move_8_34_12]547352513132553532424838425251415242413118283839[/DhtmlXQ_move_8_34_12][DhtmlXQ_comment12_45]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_45] [DhtmlXQ_move_8_36_13]314155854131858243465242[/DhtmlXQ_move_8_36_13][DhtmlXQ_comment13_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_41] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_14]765634144131141854751811313211617554616556596545323145405956403031412212547530327554121456861444[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_14][DhtmlXQ_comment14_16]书谱有以此变作和的。余卫东先生指出，黑车8平6劣，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_16][DhtmlXQ_comment14_25]此着张林生先生提出。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_25][DhtmlXQ_comment14_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_39] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_15]37174131171131321114232414244647294754464769466748477646475767555758323122424656584818282421313221275636484928384247383949595547595847662767394958484959485836385859383959583969[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_15][DhtmlXQ_comment15_19]书谱有以此变作和的，余卫东先生指出，车六平八劣着，黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_19][DhtmlXQ_comment15_24]弃卒妙，书谱没有走出此着则胜负易手。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_24][DhtmlXQ_comment15_26]！！余卫东先生正是以此大妙之着才使黑方获胜的。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_26][DhtmlXQ_comment15_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_62] [DhtmlXQ_move_15_37_16]2427553658594656594936574948576948496957494856464858573658594656594956522737524249393141[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_37_16][DhtmlXQ_comment16_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_58] [DhtmlXQ_move_15_27_17]484754354748355648585677585976365949363949487769485839372947373658593656594969574959577659497668494856364858688758488775484936394948756748583959[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_27_17][DhtmlXQ_comment17_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_62] [DhtmlXQ_move_17_41_18]5859698824648867595818282227373858576786574738374748283848588678[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_41_18][DhtmlXQ_comment18_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_56] [DhtmlXQ_move_17_33_19]58487646294777694849695749484636485857785848788624641828646228384849383949483638[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_33_19][DhtmlXQ_comment19_52]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_52] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_20]5433[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_20][DhtmlXQ_comment20_20]书谱的走法，结论为和。余卫东先生指出，应为红胜（另发一帖阐述，请阅）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_20] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: dave7788 时间: 2010-8-27 17:30
集思广益真好！华工象棋网已有王首成先生发起的“征西”局、敖日西先生发起的“停车问路”局、余卫东先生发起的“卒七星”局、联吟客发起的“登坛拜将”局、曾俊玲先生“鸿雁双飞”局的帖子、余卫东先生发起的“大五虎”局等等的研讨，成果显著！我想，如果在论坛上对古局、江湖局（尤其是疑难棋局）广泛讨论，必定会给各局以真正正确的结论。

作者: bh22wsc 时间: 2010-8-27 18:50
白老师的提议甚好，大家集思广益，使古局得出的正确结论，意义深远。

作者: dave7788 时间: 2010-8-28 11:53
[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999299948999999579922209950529999549999419999997699994623990318[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]第四种走法中黑退马变着[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark]118[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]5433525141425787425251615242878376784849787949487939834342324346393546863545294732428682424122723352727045558283182883434131476528384849553543413132414232316151[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]如图，黑先行。书谱是以马六退四为和棋正着的（余俊瑞先生提出了卒5进1的妙手！详见第四种走法），余卫东先生指出，黑退马则红胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1]54735251414257874252514152424131423231217361876718282228767467613242616242416232744421314151323351523353524248584232533332422848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_32]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_32] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_3_2]413122727365727176715737[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_3_2] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_8] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_13_3]6142671742342202[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_13_3] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_16] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_5_4]7656878273522252565352725351727842418286[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_5_4] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_14]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_5]878242418283335461514151835351415354030454047656044441514440463650605646404636462272182829075141727846474858[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_12]余俊瑞先生提出！[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_12] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_34]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_34] [DhtmlXQ_move_5_12_6]228276728384182884547282615141425414828848494232143432423444423244468889494828384858898558570304[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_12_6] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_12]书谱是以此着为正。敖日西先生指出，平炮劣，黑接走车8退4！！！可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_12] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_35]黑优。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_35] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_14_7]8323727848497828234341312947288882721828476928384959384872525475[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_14_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_29]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_29] [DhtmlXQ_move_7_20_8]4303282949484647484754354748355648585637[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_20_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_29]连杀，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_29] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_16_9]828141428454727848492838495946565444425244545242545678795958[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_16_9] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_30]连杀，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_30] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_24_10]14123231124288894948283848588981424131324111818858594647[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_24_10] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_37]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_37] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_14_11]83434131615172784849787949481828514131324363283848587973636254426252464752534263535263425253426353333242334342324347737858593848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_14_11] [DhtmlXQ_comment11_45]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_45] [DhtmlXQ_move_11_16_12]828131324353182853542838485846475434324234444232444772524757384858485257[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_16_12] [DhtmlXQ_comment12_33]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_33] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_13_13]5473[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_13_13] [DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]书谱的走法，欠佳。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_13] [DhtmlXQ_move_5_11_14]33252225767848491828834341316151313243333242332378794948793925153938484942522353524249594232535232315242[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_11_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment14_11]书谱以此变为和棋。余卫东先生指出，黑弃马似佳实劣，红吃马必胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_11] [DhtmlXQ_comment14_18]！（书谱是走车五退三？！）[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment14_36]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment40]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_15]4131226276735717232417131828626131321323[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_15][DhtmlXQ_comment15_12]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_12][DhtmlXQ_comment8]！余卫东先生提出的致胜之着。书谱是走车一进五。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_16]332561517678484925374939375839494252514152424131423231213242838242418232[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_16][DhtmlXQ_comment16_26]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_26] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_11_17]783861514252835352425343425243465251506038354656335249593532225251415250323959581828564641315030[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_11_17][DhtmlXQ_comment17_34]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_34] [DhtmlXQ_move_17_19_18]335446443858516158564442[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_19_18][DhtmlXQ_comment18_24]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_24] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_19]4142707823247818242518124555125255528283[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_19][DhtmlXQ_comment19_36]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_36] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_20]55458323454748584745707152716151[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_20][DhtmlXQ_comment20_36]连杀，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_36] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_35_21]5565707152714333[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_35_21][DhtmlXQ_comment21_38]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_38] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: yjr123 时间: 2010-8-28 15:37
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[DhtmlXQ_title]第四种走法中黑退马变着[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]如图，黑先行。书谱是以马六退四为和棋正着的（余俊瑞先生提出了卒5进1的妙手！详见第四种走法），余卫东先生指出，黑退马则红胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1]54735251414257874252514152424131423231217361876718282228767467613242616242416232744421314151323351523353524248584232533332422848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_32]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_32]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_3_2]413122727365727176715737[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_3_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_13_3]6142671742342202[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_13_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_5_4]7656878273522252565352725351727842418286[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_5_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_14]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_5]878242418283335461514151835351415354030454047656044441514440463650605646404636462272182829075141727846474858[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_12]余俊瑞先生提出！[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_34]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_34]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_12_6]228276728384182884547282615141425414828848494232143432423444423244468889494828384858898558570304[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_12_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_12]书谱是以此着为正。敖日西先生指出，平炮劣，黑接走车8退4！！！可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_35]黑优。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_35]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_14_7]8323727848497828234341312947288882721828476928384959384872525475[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_14_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_29]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_29]
[DhtmlXQ_move_7_20_8]4303282949484647484754354748355648585637[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_20_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_29]连杀，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_29]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_16_9]828141428454727848492838495946565444425244545242545678795958[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_16_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_30]连杀，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_30]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_24_10]14123231124288894948283848588981424131324111818858594647[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_24_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_37]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_14_11]83434131615172784849787949481828514131324363283848587973636254426252464752534263535263425253426353333242334342324347737858593848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_14_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_45]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_45]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_16_12]828131324353182853542838485846475434324234444232444772524757384858485257[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_16_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_33]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_33]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_13_13]5473[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_13_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]书谱的走法，欠佳。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_11_14]33252225767848491828834341316151313243333242332378794948793925153938484942522353524249594232535232315242[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_11_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_11]书谱以此变为和棋。余卫东先生指出，黑弃马似佳实劣，红吃马必胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_18]！（书谱是走车五退三？！）[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_36]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_40]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_40]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_15]4131226276735717232417131828626131321323[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_12]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]！余卫东先生提出的致胜之着。书谱是走车一进五。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment16_26]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_11_17]787949487939834342324346393546863545294732428682424122723352727045558283182883434131476528384849553543413132414232316151[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_11_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_34]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_24]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_24]
[DhtmlXQ_move_17_27_19]4142707823247818242518124555125255528283[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_27_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_36]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_36]
[DhtmlXQ_move_17_29_20]55458323454748584745707152716151[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_29_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_36]连杀，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_36]
[DhtmlXQ_move_17_35_21]5565707152714333[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_35_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_38]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_38]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment25]这样呢？[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]红方如何取胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2010-8-28 21:37
12樓
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[DhtmlXQ_title]第四种走法中黑退马变着[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]如图，黑先行。书谱是以马六退四为和棋正着的（余俊瑞先生提出了卒5进1的妙手！详见第四种走法），余卫东先生指出，黑退马则红胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_32]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_32]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_3_2]413122727365727176715737[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_3_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_13_3]6142671742342202[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_13_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_5_4]7656878273522252565352725351727842418286[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_5_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_14]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_12]余俊瑞先生提出！[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_34]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_34]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment6_12]书谱是以此着为正。敖日西先生指出，平炮劣，黑接走车8退4！！！可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_35]黑优。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_35]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_29]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_29]
[DhtmlXQ_move_7_20_8]4303282949484647484754354748355648585637[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_20_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_29]连杀，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_29]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_16_9]828141428454727848492838495946565444425244545242545678795958[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_16_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_30]连杀，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_30]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_24_10]14123231124288894948283848588981424131324111818858594647[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_24_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_37]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_37]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment11_45]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_45]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_16_12]828131324353182853542838485846475434324234444232444772524757384858485257[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_16_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_33]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_33]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_13_13]5473[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_13_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]书谱的走法，欠佳。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment14_11]书谱以此变为和棋。余卫东先生指出，黑弃马似佳实劣，红吃马必胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_18]！（书谱是走车五退三？！）[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_36]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_40]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_40]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_15]4131226276735717232417131828626131321323[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_12]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]！余卫东先生提出的致胜之着。书谱是走车一进五。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_16]332561517678484925374939375839494252514152424131423231213242838242418232[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_26]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_26]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment22_34]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_24]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_24]
[DhtmlXQ_move_17_27_19]4142707823247818242518124555125255528283[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_27_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_36]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_36]
[DhtmlXQ_move_17_29_20]55458323454748584745707152716151[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_29_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_36]连杀，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_36]
[DhtmlXQ_move_17_35_21]5565707152714333[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_35_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_38]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_38]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment25]这样呢？[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2010-8-29 06:18
嗯，红方弃炮换卒，黑车来不及占中路。

楼上弃炮换卒时机太晚，第16回合黑方车４进４再卒３平４又复杂化了。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2010-8-29 08:11
嗯,應在14或15回合打卒

作者: llllssss 时间: 2010-9-2 21:12
本帖最后由 llllssss 于 2010-9-2 21:17 编辑

回复 2# dave7788

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[DhtmlXQ_title]大五虎（红先和）[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment9]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_32]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_13]不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_13]
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作者: dave7788 时间: 2010-9-2 21:42
本帖最后由 dave7788 于 2010-9-2 21:54 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_title] 大五虎（红先和）[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_event]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_15]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_4_2]7838537341317375[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_4_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_7]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_6_3]75674838[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_7]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_8_4]41424858393858574232535232315242[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_8_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_15]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_7]533375674838675938484647485859782242786658594748[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_14]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_6_5]755648585677584877564858567547653638585738395251413153737567225218287323[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_6_5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_10_6]776948493646525141424959[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_10_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_15]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_7_8]48494131495956685958365653566856[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_7_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_14]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_14]
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作者: llllssss 时间: 2010-10-15 15:54
本帖最后由 llllssss 于 2010-10-16 17:56 编辑

大五虎弈至如下局面时黑方走将6平5是否可以和？
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作者: llllssss 时间: 2010-10-22 15:24
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作者: dave7788 时间: 2010-10-23 21:10
本帖最后由 dave7788 于 2011-1-17 20:04 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_title]接黑马6退4变着（红车四进四）[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_37]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_24_2]4142707823247818242518124555125255528283[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_24_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_33]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_33]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_32_3]5525707152714333[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_32_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_35]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_21]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_21]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment6_17]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_17]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_7]7949183824253830[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_37]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_37]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_57]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_47]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_47]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_16_9]38485652514152514142515523242010242522202535553548495958182820404929354542324030[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_16_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_35]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61]红胜定（此变红胜仅仅是笔者的意见，谨供参考）。||综上所述，“大五虎”的神秘面纱，在众人努力之下终于被揭开。如果笔者所述车四进四新变红胜的结论能够成立，则此局就只有余俊瑞先生提出的黑妙弃中卒之变可以弈成和棋了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1]新着。与前述车四平一再车一进四的变化相比，红车可以占据更有利的位置。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]黑马6退4变着弈至如图形势时，前文介绍红接走车四平一，结果和棋。现改走车四进四则产生了微妙的变化！[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_9]前述车四平一的变化可以出现与如图完全相同的局面。余卫东先生指出，此时的形势红方必胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_16]前述车四平一的变化，可以出现与如图基本相同的局面。张林生先生指出，此时形势红方必胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_16]
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作者: 周运栋 时间: 2010-10-25 22:30
我想到一个想法，辅助研究破解棋谱树软件，可以比较方便地研究这种复杂的江湖局，可以方便不少！
不过最近我潜心于开发三国杀，沉醉于策划封神榜，所以没时间开发。期待有三国杀，封神榜爱好者共同研究。
68190305 是QQ群号。

作者: llllssss 时间: 2010-10-27 10:42
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作者: 小橘梅 时间: 2010-10-28 08:37
本帖最后由小橘梅于 2010-10-28 09:09 编辑

回楼上
炮七进一变化：再接走炮五进一、兵三平四、车五平四、帅四进一、…………

作者: llllssss 时间: 2010-10-28 11:25
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作者: llllssss 时间: 2010-10-29 15:13
本帖最后由 llllssss 于 2010-11-5 14:22 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment4]以下红又三种走法均和[/DhtmlXQ_comment4] [DhtmlXQ_comment20]以下红又三种着法均和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20] [DhtmlXQ_comment26]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment26] [DhtmlXQ_comment49]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_71]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_71] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_34]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_34] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_53]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_53] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_32]同帅四进一和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_32] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_26]亦和[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_26] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_52]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_52] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_36]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_61]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_61] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_41]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_37]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_37] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_37]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_37] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_36]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_43]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_43] [DhtmlXQ_comment11_45]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_45] [DhtmlXQ_comment12_43]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_43] [DhtmlXQ_comment13_16]败着[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_16] [DhtmlXQ_comment13_35]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_35] [DhtmlXQ_comment14_25]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment15_16]败着[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_16] [DhtmlXQ_comment15_43]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_43] [DhtmlXQ_comment16_24]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_28]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment19_14]败着[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment19_39]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_39] [DhtmlXQ_comment20_43]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_43] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_35]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_35] [DhtmlXQ_comment22_35]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_35] [DhtmlXQ_comment23_31]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_31] [DhtmlXQ_comment24_37]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_37] [DhtmlXQ_comment25_16]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_16] [DhtmlXQ_comment25_25]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment26_21]嫌软[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_21] [DhtmlXQ_comment26_27]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_27] [DhtmlXQ_comment27_31]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_31] [DhtmlXQ_comment28_20]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_20] [DhtmlXQ_comment29_7]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment29_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment30_8]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment30_27]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_27] [DhtmlXQ_comment31_6]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_6] [DhtmlXQ_comment31_41]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment33_21]软[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_21] [DhtmlXQ_comment33_41]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment34_7]以下变化很复杂，仍然值得研究[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment34_54]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_54] [DhtmlXQ_comment35_13]败着[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_13] [DhtmlXQ_comment35_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_40] [DhtmlXQ_comment36_7]败着[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment36_24]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment37_32]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_32] [DhtmlXQ_comment41_26]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_26] [DhtmlXQ_comment44_6]劣着，应退一后在平四[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_6] [DhtmlXQ_comment44_11]以下红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_11] [DhtmlXQ_comment45_1]亦和[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment45_3]以下和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_3] [DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.dpxq.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.dpxq.com/hldcg/dhtmlxq/frame.htm[/DhtmlXQ_refer] 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作者: 象棋法官 时间: 2014-9-14 21:08
不明白，那个链接怎么有问题？

作者: 炎与夜 时间: 2014-9-14 23:25

象棋法官发表于 2014-9-14 21:08
不明白，那个链接怎么有问题？

从该处链接点击进入则有问题；从本帖直接进入无问题。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-9-15 01:24
吳懷潔的一局很像大五虎後半段,大家順便再看看有何異同

[DhtmlXQ]
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[DhtmlXQ_title]和局編 47 帝城鳳闕 [/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_type]殘局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment70]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]選自吳懷潔的殘局七子譜[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-9-15 09:52
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2014-9-15 10:06 编辑

採用論壇對大五虎的一種詮正走法[DhtmlXQ]
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[DhtmlXQ_type]殘局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_70]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]選自吳懷潔的殘局七子譜[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_22]論壇對大五虎的詮正[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_22]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment21]||論壇對大五虎的詮正[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_30]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_30][DhtmlXQ_comment50]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50]
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作者: 小橘梅 时间: 2014-9-15 10:13

聨吟客发表于 2014-9-15 01:24
吳懷潔的一局很像大五虎後半段,大家順便再看看有何異同

一样一样一样的

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-9-15 10:18
討論的帖子很多, 樓上採用的是否正確?只是對吳先生的走法 (可能就是古譜主變走法)作簡單的修正,至於全面的研究整理就歸還大五虎局吧

作者: 象棋法官 时间: 2014-9-15 11:29
本帖最后由象棋法官于 2014-9-15 14:33 编辑

大五虎确实很复杂，但是用子太多，脱帽后着法太散，所以就不适合作江湖局。无论是四大名局还是八大名局，始终没有五虎和鸿雁这些棋大局。

作者: 象棋法官 时间: 2014-9-15 11:35
从流行程度来说，丹凤朝阳完全有资格当选现在八大江湖局，这是题外话了。

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-9-15 13:41

象棋法官发表于 2014-9-15 11:35
从流行程度来说，丹凤朝阳完全有资格当选现在八大江湖局，这是题外话了。

谁有【大九连环】权威的注解地址

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-9-15 14:23

象棋法官发表于 2014-9-15 11:29
大五虎确实很复杂，但是用子太多，脱帽后着法太散，所以就不是合作江湖局。无论是四大名局还是八大名局，始 ...

我見過台北的幾個棋攤都沒擺過大五虎局,大陸棋攤也沒有人擺嗎?

作者: 象棋法官 时间: 2014-9-15 14:39

聨吟客发表于 2014-9-15 14:23
我見過台北的幾個棋攤都沒擺過大五虎局,大陸棋攤也沒有人擺嗎?

很少，没见过，也没见别人问过。
摊主不摆这局棋，一是子太多，江湖局子力的多少和诱惑力的大小成反比。二是脱帽后着法散乱，远远超出摊主的驾驭能力，江湖棋摊为了谋生，谁也不愿意摆自己没把握的棋局。

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