华工象棋论坛

标题: 晴夜占星 [打印本页]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2013-7-21 11:36
标题: 晴夜占星
這要怎麼分類?可算原創嗎?還是只能說改自古局七星聚會?

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2013-7-21 11:42
圖在這 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]8999999949999999699987999999523199994299509924994099997558473817[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title] 晴夜占星(聨吟客)[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 炎与夜 时间: 2013-7-21 13:13
原创，棋路变化已经可以脱离原局套路。属于典型的江湖型排局，并且至少是《竹》二集这样的作品，因为以后形成一连串的黑胜变着，着法如下： [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]8999999949999999699987999999523199992499509942994099997517583847[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]875747575251505169615150898858488848384849481727314140416141273748495758413137473130505149394748303575763536767736865141868977678981414081894260898424428454676854576869573769593730404130505949[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment12]这步棋优于原局的卒6进1，由此认为已经脱离原局套路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12][DhtmlXQ_comment14]弃车，准备形成三英战吕布的局面，已经证实了上1步的结论。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14][DhtmlXQ_comment48]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48][DhtmlXQ_comment0]具有高度想象力的优秀作品！说它具有高度的想象力不是因为后面的着法内容，而是因为移动了一路车、炮的位置，增设了8路卒，拓宽了对七星的改创方向的缘故。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 炎与夜 时间: 2013-7-21 13:17
[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]8999999949999999699987999914523199992499509942994099997517583847[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]增设1个八路兵，可以在以后的变化中游走此兵与黑方3卒对抗，只是会成为红胜，布设此局暂时提供一种思路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 炎与夜 时间: 2013-7-21 13:38
笔者认为：笔者自诩对象棋排局的改创、创作等具有相当的造诣。对于七星聚会类型的江湖型排局似乎已经难有大的突破，七星聚会这局棋基本上达到了极限！换句话说似乎此类排局已经没有了拓展空间。在不变动棋型、增设子力方面似乎就是如此。理由如下： 1：九路似乎不能摆设任何棋子，否则第1回合红方不会平炮在四路叫将，七星原局1炮二退一的时候黑方采用车5平1！立即形成绝杀之势，一旦九路上面摆设棋子，就会阻滞黑方这路杀法，从而导致演成红方或者黑方速胜的变化。 2：此局似乎除了一·三位外，似乎不能摆设红相。 3：此处空白表示而后的研究结果容后补充 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999949999999699999999999523199999999509942994099999999385847[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]这几个棋子似乎是维持七星卷本套路的基本棋型。以后红方另有车、炮、兵尚可发挥；黑方另有卒、象等棋子可以发挥。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2013-7-21 19:09
3樓15回合紅方錯誤

作者: 炎与夜 时间: 2013-7-21 19:19
3樓15回合紅方錯誤[/quote] 其实，3楼这个排局已经是黑胜局，红方走得再正确也只有输棋一条路，不存在红棋方面的错误与否，不知道能否同意这种观点。

作者: yjr123 时间: 2013-7-21 19:28
虽然原局是黑胜，但4楼的改局更是无味，而且结论也不是红胜。

作者: 炎与夜 时间: 2013-7-21 19:33
虽然原局是黑胜，但4楼的改局更是无味，而且结论也不是红胜。[/quote] 改成4楼排局是出于这样的考虑：由于3楼这个排局必然形成三英战吕布的局面，红方仅有单枪赵云，增设1兵后可以带子入朝（八路兵为子）与三英周旋；至于棋局结论的问题我暂时没有去深入研究，这属于如果有必要对这个排局深入研究的话，下一个阶段需要探讨的问题。

作者: yjr123 时间: 2013-7-21 19:36
即使不考虑结果，4楼的改局也是超低水平的，因为其着法极其无味。

作者: 炎与夜 时间: 2013-7-21 19:39
即使不考虑结果，4楼的改局也是超低水平的，因为其着法极其无味。[/quote] 4楼的排局实际上是一个模型，主要在于提供一种思路。类似这种情况的排局都可以视为模型，以后就可以对这些模型改创成有精意的作品。

作者: τ.半路浅唱 时间: 2013-7-21 22:31
有思想，投入大量的精力，一般会有好作品产生的。加油！

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2013-7-22 19:52
這樣走可以成立否?

[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]8999999949999999699987999999523199994299509924994099997558473817[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title] 晴夜占星(聨吟客)[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]87574757525150516961515089885848884838484948172731414041614127374131575848493747313547484939757635367677363777783777786877794260798950408979240279896878896978686979[/DhtmlXQ_movelist][DhtmlXQ_comment41]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment41][DhtmlXQ_comment29]紅連續捉卒是謀和關鍵[/DhtmlXQ_comment29] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 邢春波 时间: 2013-7-22 20:49
本帖最后由邢春波于 2013-7-22 20:50 编辑

刘先生可以以此局想想，电脑软件能走出这个变化吗？[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]8999999949999999699987999999523199994299509924994099997558473817[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title] 晴夜占星(聨吟客)[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]87574757525150516961515089885848884838484948172731414041614127374131575848493747313547484939757635367677363777783777786877794260798968788969608269898260896960826963786863662442666550406545826045856869[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29]紅連續捉卒是謀和關鍵[/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_1]50408979240279896878896978686979[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_1][DhtmlXQ_comment50]||黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment50][DhtmlXQ_comment41]红长杀只得变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D31216[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 炎与夜 时间: 2013-7-22 20:59

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2013-7-22 21:00
哇!!沒注意到可造成規則問題,呵呵!

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2013-7-22 21:17
只好改這樣,差強我意,但也勉強啦

作者: 炎与夜 时间: 2013-7-22 21:23
本帖最后由炎与夜于 2013-7-22 21:29 编辑

聨吟客发表于 2013-7-22 21:17
只好改這樣,差強我意,但也勉強啦

这样的话似乎棋型美观，但着法方面红黑双方都不尽如人意：红方只有单枪赵云、黑方三战吕布不能上演。因此还可以继续改创。

另外，如果这样的排局拿来在江湖棋摊上摆棋很容易骗人！因为：七星已众所周知，走黑棋这方一定会按照脱帽的着法走卒6进1！这样红方就有利可图了。

很多棋客水平很低，连简单的陷阱都会被坑骗，更何况这样复杂的排局了。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2013-7-22 21:29
呵呵,17樓已經比4樓好很多了

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2013-7-22 21:54
這個我還沒研究,呵呵,先休息了

作者: 邢春波 时间: 2013-7-23 12:24

15楼是不是有点断章取义，与3楼着法不同聨吟客发表于 2013-7-22 21:17
只好改這樣,差強我意,但也勉強啦
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]

作者: ntljh29103 时间: 2013-7-23 16:18

炎与夜发表于 2013-7-21 13:13
原创，棋路变化已经可以脱离原局套路。属于典型的江湖型排局，并且至少是《竹》二集这样的作品，因为以后形 ...

15.车六平一是错着，造成18回合卒7平6黑方胜势，应改走.车六退一和定！

作者: yjr123 时间: 2013-7-23 16:43

ntljh29103 发表于 2013-7-23 16:18
15.车六平一是错着，造成18回合卒7平6黑方胜势，应改走.车六退一和定！

胜法见14楼

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2013-7-23 18:24
邢兄改的不錯

[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]8999999949999999699987999926523199994299509924994099997558473817[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title] 晴夜占星(聨吟客)[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]8757475752515051696151508988584888483848494817273141404161412737413157584849374731354748493975763536767736377778377778687779426026252402798968788969608269898264896964826962787962028264252450510201515001036442243479690353504053584858393842603837[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_35_1]7970585970796869[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_35_1][DhtmlXQ_comment61]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment61]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D31216%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2013-7-23 18:43
20樓脫帽
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]7999999949999999699977999999523199994299509924994099998558473817[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title] 晴夜占星(聨吟客)[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]77574757525150516961515079785848784838484948172731414041614127374131575848493747313547484939858635368687363787883777[/DhtmlXQ_movelist][DhtmlXQ_comment29]至此脫帽,以後可能有單雙步的玄機, 待深入研究o[/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_1]378788788780505180894264896964826989826489696482696151506169240269898264896964826962787962650224656250406265244265557969555848583938426438375848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_1][DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]紅長捉需變著[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_2]50403787585987895949894948493949[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_2][DhtmlXQ_comment2_35]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_64]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_64]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D31216%26pid%3D215704%26page%3D1%26extra%3D%23pid215704[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2013-11-27 11:27
脫帽後紅須注意單雙步的形勢才能守和,我可滿意

[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]7999999949999999699977999999523199994299509924994099998558473817[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title] 晴夜占星(聨吟客)[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]77574757525150516961515079785848784838484948172731414041614127374131575848493747313547484939858635368687363787883777504077794260797724427779404179714140717940507977504077794041797141407179426479776482777660427670404170794140797040417079414079708260707940507977504077794264797764427779426479778889777664427678405078774264777664427677504077786082787040417078414078704041707882607871414071784264787764427778[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29]至此脫帽,以後可能有單雙步的玄機, 待深入研究o[/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_1]378788788780505180894264896964826989826489696482696151506169240269898264896964826962787962650224656250406265244265557969555848583938426438375848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]紅長捉需變著[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_2]50403787585987895949894948493949[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_35]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_64]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment101]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D31216%26extra%3Dpage%253D11[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

作者: yjr123 时间: 2013-11-27 14:33

聨吟客发表于 2013-11-27 11:27
脫帽後紅須注意單雙步的形勢才能守和,我可滿意

[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]7999999949999999699977999999523199994299509924994099998558473817[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title] 晴夜占星(聨吟客)[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]775747575251505169615150797885757888584888483848494817273141404161412737[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_29]至此脫帽,以後可能有單雙步的玄機, 待深入研究o[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_29]
[DhtmlXQ_move_3_29_1]378788788780505180894264896964826989826489696482696151506169240269898264896964826962787962650224656250406265244265557969555848583938426438375848[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_29_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]紅長捉需變著[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]
[DhtmlXQ_move_3_28_2]50403787585987895949894948493949[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_28_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_35]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_64]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_64]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_3]5848784838484948172731414041614127374131575848493747313547484939858635368687363787883777[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_3][DhtmlXQ_comment18]这样可能会黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment18]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D31216%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

作者: yjr123 时间: 2013-11-27 14:42

聨吟客发表于 2013-7-23 18:24
邢兄改的不錯

[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]8999999949999999699987999926523199994299509924994099997558473817[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title] 晴夜占星(聨吟客)[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]8757475752515051696151508988172731414041614175858878857578887585[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16]红方长杀须变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment16]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D31216%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2013-11-27 15:20
o!!!感謝余兄

,我再想想有無比17樓更好的改法

作者: 邢春波 时间: 2013-11-27 21:19
改成这样
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]8999999949999999699987999999523199994299509924994099997558473835[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title] 晴夜占星(聨吟客)[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D31216[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2013-11-28 02:41
這樣可以,只是末段有點老套

[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]7999999949999999699977999925523199994299509924994099990558473817[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title] 晴夜占星(聨吟客)[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]775747575251505169615150797858487848384849481727314140416141273741315758484937473135474849390506355550405545405045555040554506162524161745424050424717184757504057584858393858483837[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_1]4050455550405545[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_1][DhtmlXQ_comment45]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment45][DhtmlXQ_comment21]好像唯一解著[/DhtmlXQ_comment21][DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]一將一伏兵捉子算一將一閑,和局o[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D31216%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2013-11-28 03:11

邢春波发表于 2013-11-27 21:19
改成这样

這樣嗎
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]8999999949999999699987999999523199994299509924994099997558473835[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title] 晴夜占星(聨吟客)[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]8757475752515051696151508988584888483848494835366163426448384049635350405357494838394845571740501787758587778575778775858777857577877585[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_1]3141404161413637[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_1][DhtmlXQ_comment34]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment34][DhtmlXQ_comment1_16]黑可勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_16]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D31216%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2013-11-28 03:28
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]8999999949999999699987999999523199994299509924994099997558473835[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title] 晴夜占星(聨吟客)[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]87574757525150516961515089885848884838484948353661634260483840496353504053574948383948455717405017676082676150406167756567778260[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_1]3141404161413637[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_34]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_16]黑可勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_16]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_2]426448384049635350405357494838394845571740501787758587778575778775858777857577877585[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_2][DhtmlXQ_comment14]這樣較好[/DhtmlXQ_comment14][DhtmlXQ_comment32]黑優[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D31216%26extra%3Dpage%253D1%26page%3D2[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2013-11-28 03:48
這樣是否可滿意呢?

[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]7999999949999999699977999999523199994299509924994099998558473835[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title] 晴夜占星(聨吟客)[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]775747575251505169615150797858487848384849483536314140416141363741315758484937473135474849398586353686873637878837775040777942607977244277796082797040417079414079704041707941407970826070794264797764427779426479778889777664427678426478766442767840507877504077784041787141407178[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_1]50403787585987895949894948493949[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_1][DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35][DhtmlXQ_comment31]以後紅須注意單雙步才能和![/DhtmlXQ_comment31][DhtmlXQ_comment69]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment69][DhtmlXQ_comment54]黑無法突破,進卒再作試探o[/DhtmlXQ_comment54][DhtmlXQ_comment55]重要的閑著![/DhtmlXQ_comment55]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D31216%26extra%3Dpage%253D1%26page%3D2[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2013-11-28 10:08

聨吟客发表于 2013-11-28 03:28

第七回合车二退二劣着，黑胜了。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2013-11-28 10:14

★星海★ 发表于 2013-11-28 10:08
第七回合车二退二劣着，黑胜了。

兵平五也敗,車退5嗎?

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2013-11-28 10:19
車退5也敗
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]8999999949999999699987999999523199994299509924994099997558473835[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title] 晴夜占星(聨吟客)[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]8757475752515051696151508988584888483848494835366166426048383637383757473738404566367565[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_3]61634260483840496353504053574948383948455717405017676082676150406167756567778260[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_3][DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_1]3141404161413637[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_34]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_16]黑可勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_16]
[DhtmlXQ_move_3_14_2]426448384049635350405357494838394845571740501787758587778575778775858777857577877585[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_14_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]這樣較好[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_32]黑優[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_26]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_26]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]3839404866363738363848383938574731417565[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_5]665650405636474838394515[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_5]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D31216%26extra%3Dpage%253D1%26page%3D2[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2013-11-28 10:30
兵六平五要顽强得多，并且最后判定红方长捉也是有争议的，象飞9路红方就不敢吃，我觉得判闲比较合理。
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]8999999949999999699987999999523199994299509924994099997558473835[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title] 晴夜占星(聨吟客)[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]875747575251505169615150898858488848384849483536616642604838363738375747373840456636474838375040[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_3]61634260483840496353504053574948383948455717405017676082676150406167756567778260[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_1]3141404161413637[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_34]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_16]黑可勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_16]
[DhtmlXQ_move_3_14_2]426448384049635350405357494838394845571740501787758587778575778775858777857577877585[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_14_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]這樣較好[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_32]黑優[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_26]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_26]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]3839404866363738363848383938574731417565[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_5]665650405636474838394515[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_5]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D31216%26page%3D2[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2013-11-28 10:36
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2013-11-28 11:05 编辑

★星海★ 发表于 2013-11-28 10:30
兵六平五要顽强得多，并且最后判定红方长捉也是有争议的，象飞9路红方就不敢吃，我觉得判闲比较合理。

那我2樓第一個圖不就成立了?:l

(不對 , 2樓仍可用余先生方法黑勝)

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2013-11-28 10:42
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2013-11-28 10:46 编辑

規則的問題沒辦法,亞洲規則也是不能長捉的,所以我才那麼努力修改.........

作者: 邢春波 时间: 2013-11-28 18:44
修改的是21楼，漏放了红兵，真对不起大家

[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_title]晴夜占星(聨吟客)[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place]
[DhtmlXQ_round][/DhtmlXQ_round]
[DhtmlXQ_table][/DhtmlXQ_table]
[DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red]
[DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam]
[DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating]
[DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time]
[DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black]
[DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam]
[DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating]
[DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark][/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author][/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]6999999949999999898799263152999940992499509942999999993538475875[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]8757475752515051696151508988353631414041614158488848384849483637484957584131374731354748493975763536767736377778377778687779426026252402798968788969608269627868620282640252504025246869525848583938[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment49]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule]
[DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype]
[DhtmlXQ_owner][/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.ccbridge.net[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

欢迎光临华工象棋论坛 (http://hgchess.com/BBS/)