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作者: 迟暮寒士    时间: 2014-12-12 16:48
标题: 新拟困子局(还未命名)
这几天研究困毙局的棋友和帖子较多。 如果把对方的强子全部围困之后,再设计一套着法去杀棋,就要废点脑筋了。 下面这局棋费了我一天时间,没吃没喝没睡,终于在众多的方案中,找到了可行的方案。觉得还还算说得过去。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title](未命名 红先胜)王甸冰拟局[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_round][/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam] [DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam] [DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark][/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author][/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_binit]0123999938999970993959006683869926402032304182528009484749636879[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule] [DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype] [DhtmlXQ_owner][/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype] [/DhtmlXQ] 请有兴趣的棋友试解一下,红先胜。稍后待我整理好着法后,再贴出详细着发。
作者: 高原红    时间: 2014-12-12 19:19
试解!没有难度。底兵设计很巧妙!管住了车、炮两大子。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]0123999938999970993959006683869926402032304182528009484749636879[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title](未命名 红先胜)王甸冰拟局[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]01315231231126215950415070513241001009293979473738372925797248427252826483736858736380606373252866655848656428266463608086858060858460808483806083824232828132426362607073724232727170606261483861602636374732121020[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_52_1]36265250[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_52_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_2]63648373685886855848858425248474242574648060645442325444253537473525444348584333324247375848333221111020[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_2] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: 高原红    时间: 2014-12-12 19:56
3路象可放出来活动!或另设在啥地方以增加难度。试调一下可增一着! [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]0111999938999970993959006683869926400232314182528009484749636879[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title](未命名 红先胜)王甸冰拟局[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]]
作者: 迟暮寒士    时间: 2014-12-12 20:37
回复2楼高原红棋友: 您在第9步,把着法做了两个分枝, 第一个分枝与我所拟着法基本一致,三兵捉死黑车。(第9步黑不进卒,不飞象,走前卒平6较好,诱红兵吃象) 第二分枝中,第10步红方没有进兵吃象,正合我的设想。但之后红兵向中路平移,好像行不通。第16步黑重炮将,红帅平五(若垫兵,前炮平2抽底兵),下一步黑应该后炮平5将,再把马跳出,红不能胜。
作者: 迟暮寒士    时间: 2014-12-12 20:44
3路象可放出来活动!或另设在啥地方以增加难度。试调一下可增一着! ][/quote] 把黑象摆在1路,这种方案考虑过了。在此局中,黑边象会被红方利用,红方第8步炮二进七,黑退炮挡,红可炮打边象速胜。 谢王老师为本局改进提高。
作者: ★星海★    时间: 2014-12-12 20:54
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作者: 高原红    时间: 2014-12-12 21:54
这样黑长杀是否该黑变。不变作负。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]0170999938999911993959008306669980402041313282522648096347684979[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title](未命名 红先胜)王甸冰拟局[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]1123313001315231231126215950415070513241001009293979473738372925797248427252826406056858050458480403807083737080738380708373708073832526030280708373708073838070837326240201708073838070837370807383242501008070[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]]
作者: 高原红    时间: 2014-12-12 22:18
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作者: ★星海★    时间: 2014-12-12 22:20
7楼黑优,局面很散,8楼黑胜无疑。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]0170879938999911993959008306999980402041313282522648094768884979[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title](未命名 红先胜)王甸冰拟局[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]11233130013152315950415070513241231126210010473738374828[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment14]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment14] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: 高原红    时间: 2014-12-12 22:37
7楼黑优,局面很散,8楼黑胜无疑。[/quote] 正确!看来还是要加兵才行!
作者: 高原红    时间: 2014-12-12 22:57
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作者: 快乐每一日    时间: 2014-12-13 00:25
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作者: 快乐每一日    时间: 2014-12-13 00:27
高原红 发表于 2014-12-12 21:54
这样黑长杀是否该黑变。不变作负。
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作者: 迟暮寒士    时间: 2014-12-13 03:11
★星海★ 发表于 2014-12-12 20:54

谢星海友提醒指正!这个变着之前也想到过,但原以为红方炮六平七就可简单解决,所以没深思。
作者: 迟暮寒士    时间: 2014-12-13 03:23
快乐每一日 发表于 2014-12-13 00:27

回复快乐一日,7楼局面按照高王老师的走法,确实是黑方长杀犯规,按照你的走法,黑方可以避免长杀求和。
作者: 迟暮寒士    时间: 2014-12-13 04:17
本帖最后由 迟暮寒士 于 2014-12-13 04:32 编辑
快乐每一日 发表于 2014-12-13 00:25

       12#在11#王老师改正的局面的基础上,提高了几着:如果黑方向中路走9路卒,红方必须要先过一路兵挡车,再进九路兵长驱直入取胜。       目前,该局局面是本局最佳方案。

作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-12-13 15:46
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2014-12-13 20:48
這樣看看
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作者: 迟暮寒士    时间: 2014-12-13 21:44
象棋法官 发表于 2014-12-13 15:46

多谢法官大人参与本案的审理。
作者: 迟暮寒士    时间: 2014-12-13 21:45
聨吟客 发表于 2014-12-13 20:48
這樣看看

多谢联吟客棋友参与本局的探讨。
作者: 迟暮寒士    时间: 2014-12-13 21:51
        吸取以上棋友的着法和意见,又研究了很长时间,有两种可行方案。
第一种方案如下:
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请棋友们先试解一下,继续给予支持,

作者: ★星海★    时间: 2014-12-13 22:35
联吟客改局成功。21楼黑胜
作者: 迟暮寒士    时间: 2014-12-14 10:11
★星海★ 发表于 2014-12-13 22:35
联吟客改局成功。21楼黑胜

我认为黑方不能胜,但红方好像也不能,见下楼着法。
作者: 迟暮寒士    时间: 2014-12-14 10:30
    棋友王方权老师例举的向中路平兵的着法虽然不成立,但也给我提供了一个思路。据此,我设计了两种方案。


    第一种方案,如楼上棋局所示,着法如下:
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[DhtmlXQ_comment15]    炮四进六,关键!||    如果走其他子,黑炮5平4拦红炮,红不能取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]    相五进三,关键!||    如果迟一步飞相,黑卒7进一,之后红方再飞相扩大红帅活动范围,黑7路卒可过河,红不能胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47]    注意!不要误走兵四平五。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52]    若炮3平4重炮照将,则兵五平六反捉后炮,红速胜。||    又若车9平8,帅五平六,再兵五进一,与主着同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment95]    红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment95]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]    若兵五平六,前炮平2,抽杀底兵,红劣不能胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_52]    红劣不能胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_52]
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    现在,我突然发现行不通,黑方在第33步、37步、41步、45步时,可以车3平2吃马。



    第二种方案,局面和着法如下:
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[DhtmlXQ_comment15]    炮四进六,关键!||    如果走其他子,黑炮5平4拦红炮,红不能取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]    相五进三,扩大红帅活动范围,同时仍可控制7路黑卒,关键!||    如果迟一步飞相,黑卒7进一,之后红方再飞相扩大红帅活动范围,黑7路卒可过河,红不能胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53]    注意:不可误走兵四平五。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62]    若炮3平4重炮照将,兵五平六反捉黑炮,红速胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65]   进士,事先做好防守,必要。[/DhtmlXQ_comment65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67]    飞相,事先做好防守,必要。[/DhtmlXQ_comment67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75]    红进中兵,取胜在即。||||    以下黑有炮4平8、炮4平6、炮4平3三种救急措施,皆无济于事。[/DhtmlXQ_comment75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87]    红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment87]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_78]   若车7进4跟炮,则帅五平六,炮6平4,炮四进四红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_83]    红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_83]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_83]    红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_83]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_55]    若兵五平四,则前炮平2抽杀底兵,红劣不能胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_58]    黑马跳出,红劣不能胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_58]
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    这第二种方案目前还没发现问题,可靠性较高。



    对以上两局,请棋友们审阅检查,提出疑点,指正错误,以及改正方案。







作者: 迟暮寒士    时间: 2014-12-14 10:45
本帖最后由 迟暮寒士 于 2014-12-15 21:27 编辑
聨吟客 发表于 2014-12-13 20:48
這樣看看

    联吟客棋友的改正局,关键在第11步,红方必须及时走兵一平二塞象眼,不让其象9进7,以利用黑象封阻9路。很妙。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment51]    红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]   红劣和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]
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作者: 高原红    时间: 2014-12-14 16:57
本帖最后由 高原红 于 2014-12-14 17:03 编辑

第二方案也不成立!
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[DhtmlXQ_comment15]    炮四进六,关键!||    如果走其他子,黑炮5平4拦红炮,红不能取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]    相五进三,扩大红帅活动范围,同时仍可控制7路黑卒,关键!||    如果迟一步飞相,黑卒7进一,之后红方再飞相扩大红帅活动范围,黑7路卒可过河,红不能胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53]    注意:不可误走兵四平五。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_62]    若炮3平4重炮照将,兵五平六反捉黑炮,红速胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_65]   进士,事先做好防守,必要。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_67]    飞相,事先做好防守,必要。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_75]    红进中兵,取胜在即。||||    以下黑有炮4平8、炮4平6、炮4平3三种救急措施,皆无济于事。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_87]    红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_87]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_78]   若车7进4跟炮,则帅五平六,炮6平4,炮四进四红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_83]    红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_83]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_83]    红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_83]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_55]    若兵五平四,则前炮平2抽杀底兵,红劣不能胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_58]    黑马跳出,红劣不能胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_58]
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作者: 迟暮寒士    时间: 2014-12-15 22:04
高原红 发表于 2014-12-14 16:57
第二方案也不成立!

      面对一座被围困得严严实实的孤城,两个小兵竟不能从正面攻破,确实没想到。
      看来,只有从侧面外围进攻了,有两种战略战策,一种是单兵从其右侧,直插敌后薄弱之处,如12楼13楼18楼棋友们所改的局面(局面都成立)。另一种是三个兵从其左侧齐进,生擒城外守敌,如2楼所列的主着(局面不成立)。






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