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标题: 倒卷珠帘18（时鑫试拟）请求改进；谢谢！ [打印本页]

作者: sdndsx 时间: 2016-8-20 08:31
标题: 倒卷珠帘18（时鑫试拟）请求改进；谢谢！
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2016-8-21 19:22 编辑

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作者: sdndsx 时间: 2016-8-20 08:37
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2016-8-20 08:39 编辑

素材

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作者: 陈财运 时间: 2016-8-20 19:18
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-8-20 20:21
簡單的我來

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-8-20 20:26
類似趣味殺局

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作者: sunyt 时间: 2016-8-20 20:51
个人观点：完全相同

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-8-20 20:54
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2016-8-21 09:49 编辑

這樣嗎

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作者: 湖艓 时间: 2016-8-20 20:54
回楼上陈先生是在解局不是贴出一样的局

作者: sunyt 时间: 2016-8-20 20:57
个人观点：简单的重复，没有太大意义，传统美学中有 “事不过3”之说，除非构成超长连照杀，简单的抽吃，不超过3子为宜。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-8-20 21:27
連照殺局為了增加著數重複使用相同抽子方法, 不論此法是簡單或複雜, 都是排局創作的方式,如果簡單可成趣味殺局,如5樓便是, 而7樓有加工融入帽子與後段殺法, 有所提高, 更佳

當然我是在解棋友的局而不是創新局或改局

作者: 湖艓 时间: 2016-8-20 21:29
其实非连杀局也能用到这种手法

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-8-20 21:33
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2016-8-20 21:34 编辑

是的, 都可以用
和局也是

作者: sdndsx 时间: 2016-8-21 19:30
谢谢各位老师的关注！特别是陈财运老师改进提高到30回合！
1楼局面很是普通，所以敬请改进。本来就是素材，渴盼能拋砖引玉。

作者: 高原红 时间: 2016-8-22 00:01
本帖最后由高原红于 2016-8-22 00:13 编辑

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作者: 高原红 时间: 2016-8-22 00:27
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作者: 湖艓 时间: 2016-8-22 04:02
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-8-25 21:29
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2016-8-26 07:38 编辑

來個和局, 呵呵呵, 末段紅和法多了些, 還不是很滿意, 以待改進

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-8-26 07:15
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2016-8-26 07:28 编辑

此圖紅優,但不知能不能勝?請教大家

作者: sdndsx 时间: 2016-8-26 07:35

聨吟客发表于 2016-8-26 07:15
此圖紅優,但不知能不能勝?請教大家

谢谢您！您的改拟和棋、双卷珠帘有创意！我喜欢！敬请好上加好！加油！

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-8-26 07:50
感謝時老師,18 樓如果紅能勝會是佳局, 還要經過一番曲折, 如果只能和局就很簡單了, 對紅方而言和局太容易

接下來的變化超出我棋力所及,還望大家共同研究與指導

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-8-27 16:01
可能是和局,不知正確否?這幾天我左下側牙齦發炎, 疼痛有如蛀牙嚴重的程度, 吃不好睡不好, 雖用了治齒水每次可舒緩半小時到一小時的時間, 藥效過後又疼痛依然, 回想小時候蛀牙的夢魘便是如此

, 不因年長而忍耐力較強

,呵呵呵.........忍痛上網研究, 還望大家多多指正, 希望趕快康復

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-8-27 16:24
再挖掘看看.....
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-8-27 16:53
有沒有問題呢?

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[DhtmlXQ_comment51] 和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment51][DhtmlXQ_comment32]這樣可抗衡\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-8-28 07:03
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[DhtmlXQ_title]倒卷珠帘（陳明仁试拟）[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_author]山东时鑫[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]|| 黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_23]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment23]此局要這樣走[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_26]||!![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_26]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment43]黑有規則問題,有無好棋可變呢\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment43]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_51] 和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50]不變和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment50][DhtmlXQ_comment44]發現這樣沒有規則問題能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment44][DhtmlXQ_comment32]應該也能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32][DhtmlXQ_comment2_35]尚未發現紅方或黑方能取勝的辦法,互走閒著好像是雙方最簡明和法o[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_35][DhtmlXQ_comment3_32]這樣可抗衡[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_32]
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