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作者: chessbug 时间: 2016-9-14 18:42
标题: 《一以贯之》
本帖最后由 chessbug 于 2016-9-14 18:46 编辑

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-15 03:11
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-15 06:26
紅方和棋不難,可否添一卒以改進? 位置有待推敲

作者: chessbug 时间: 2016-9-15 09:22
本帖最后由 chessbug 于 2016-9-15 09:24 编辑

聨吟客发表于 2016-9-15 06:26
紅方和棋不難,可否添一卒以改進? 位置有待推敲

帮忙改进一下 ^-^

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-16 08:13
添高卒可能黑勝,底卒可研究看看,是否能限制紅炮退底的變化, 只能高炮連兵謀和呢?

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-16 08:28
我怎麼覺得4樓仍是和局? 黑有何妙手取勝呢?

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-16 08:34
甚至還可以這樣更好?

作者: chessbug 时间: 2016-9-16 17:06
本帖最后由 chessbug 于 2016-9-16 17:08 编辑

聨吟客发表于 2016-9-16 08:34
甚至還可以這樣更好?

这样红不行吧？所以加了个边相。
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-16 20:31
我沒算到9回合將4平5這步妙手!! 紅也平帥似乎撐比較久? 研究看看

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作者: chessbug 时间: 2016-9-16 20:44

聨吟客发表于 2016-9-16 20:31
我沒算到9回合將4平5這步妙手!! 紅也平帥似乎撐比較久? 研究看看

红不行。

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-16 20:45
還是黑勝

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-16 20:53
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2016-9-16 20:57 编辑

加邊兵是否比加相好

也不能有底卒
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-16 21:02
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-16 21:18
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作者: chessbug 时间: 2016-9-16 21:31
本帖最后由 chessbug 于 2016-9-16 21:32 编辑

聨吟客发表于 2016-9-16 20:53
加邊兵是否比加相好也不能有底卒

其实这样就可以和

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-16 21:47
15樓子力精簡但走法也較簡短, 14 樓最後須棄炮, 三兵連橫巧和單車

作者: chessbug 时间: 2016-9-16 21:58

聨吟客发表于 2016-9-16 21:47
15樓子力精簡但走法也較簡短, 14 樓最後須棄炮, 三兵連橫巧和單車

陈老师有兴趣可以帮忙看下4楼的，我本来把它当主打局，后来发现黑还是能胜。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-16 22:40
這樣有沒有問題

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-17 09:11
還有一個變化我還未加詳研,14.15.18樓的第4回合,黑是否有卒4平3的選擇? 不知各有何結果?

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-17 09:31
15樓不能卒4平3
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-17 09:37
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2016-9-17 09:46 编辑

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-17 10:04
呵呵呵,有時間的朋友先研究吧

作者: chessbug 时间: 2016-9-17 11:53
本帖最后由 chessbug 于 2016-9-17 11:56 编辑

这局拟完后，各路变招大致拆解了一遍，红最好的办法是依靠棋规求和。（结尾是否涉及棋例纠纷，请各位老师指正）

附上较完整的拆解意见。

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[DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place]
[DhtmlXQ_round][/DhtmlXQ_round]
[DhtmlXQ_table][/DhtmlXQ_table]
[DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red]
[DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam]
[DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating]
[DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time]
[DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black]
[DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam]
[DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating]
[DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark][/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author][/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]7899999949999999996899414243444550289999309999999999993847999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]4140304068283848784847484948505542325545485845442848403048383040384840304838304038484030[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_1]434244545848542428382434[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_1]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_2]4555584840502827555848495857272857474939474443424434394934382822[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_3]5040682838394959405044544748784850544858394959495458454458564333564649594644333230402822[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_3_16_4]5828433328264443[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_16_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_5]4131303142323132433332316828382878285010495910195958191258591272288872795958793988813130818030314443393858594748[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_9_6]78775080774780894948898848492838495938484748884844434845[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_9_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_8_7]506028294748784838484948606848476869292369494757494544433141231345555747415147485545483851411317[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_8_7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_7_10_8]602033323141323141317838314129392026445426464544464538784546788846458878[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_10_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_8_9]384878484748494850562838314138375646374746454443[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_8_9]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_10]6860505841313031423231324333324244434241785838484939484939382807[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_3_11]7858384849594849[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_3_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1]正确。||另有两变均红负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]这路变化原以为能和，结果似有棋规纠纷。||||另走车6平5吃兵，则红可和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]不变应红负吧？[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_18]锁定，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_27]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_7]！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_15]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_19]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_1]首着平兵将，红要输棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_8]正确。若改走卒4平5或车6平7，则为和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_22]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_31]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_10]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_27]不变和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_13]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_19]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_16]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_16]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule]
[DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype]
[DhtmlXQ_owner][/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.ccbridge.net[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-17 12:04
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2016-9-17 12:27 编辑

23樓不變和局

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-17 12:25
接21樓
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]7899999949999999996899414243440350289999309999999999993847999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]一以贯之[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]4131303142323132433332316828382878775060774728384959384847486069595869685859684844434818[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_53]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_53]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_1]5060282947487848384849486068484768692928314147576967575867644443645458485424031324284849282613232646495946565949415149485646483851413839413143534626394926464939462639492646493931415343[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]這樣可能較好\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8] 未知[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]待研究[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_2]38487848474849485055444355250313252848492826132326464959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_2][DhtmlXQ_comment2_21]||可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_21]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_3]4846031331411323[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_3][DhtmlXQ_comment3_25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_25]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D36094%26page%3D1%26extra%3D[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-17 22:46
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]7899999949999999996899414243440350289999309999999999993847999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]一以贯之[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]413130314232313243333231682838287877506077472838495938484748606959586968585968484443481833233141233341403323181623331656594956164959165659494050031356464939504013234030435346263949264649393040534340304353464823134828534328263949264649593040132346565949405049485646483850403839[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_53]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_53]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_1]5060282947487848384849486068484768692928314147576967575867644443645458485424031324284849282613232646495946565949415149485646483851413839413143534626394926464939462639492646493931415343[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]這樣可能較好\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8] 未知[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]待研究[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_2]38487848474849485055444355250313252848492826132326464959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_21]||可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_21]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_3]4846031331411323[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment69]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D36094%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 魔帝大人 时间: 2016-9-18 10:16
这个最早的原型局精彩：

[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]8899999949999999996478414274999960289999309999997099990647389999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_sound]on[/DhtmlXQ_sound]
[DhtmlXQ_show_move]on[/DhtmlXQ_show_move]
[DhtmlXQ_title][/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result][/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_author]667(mail:cchessme@126.com)[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fextra%3Dpage%253D1%2526filter%253Dtypeid%2526typeid%253D39%2526typeid%253D39%26mod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D1510[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-18 12:48
東萍有走法

[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999949999999887864999974424160289999309999997099990638479999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver]
[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2014-1-10 13:33:56[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_editdate]2014-1-10 13:33:56[/DhtmlXQ_editdate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]小挂印[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]7870606441403040746438484939484939382807424140418881414081210616212040412029071970751626754526364549473738391927292737274945[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_1]2928413149453738393836373839373839493828[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_1]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_2]474838371626292607267020[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_3]495964541626544426367077414044430726292636267787[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_4]70400719202941402919474838371626[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_5]746438484959484959582836[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]8838643438283439[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_7]78283839495960508858505859587050[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_7_5_8]28584748[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_5_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_9]4232474849596050785848588858505859587050[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_9]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_length]101[/DhtmlXQ_length]
[DhtmlXQ_type]排局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_class]江湖残局[/DhtmlXQ_class]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_author]667(mail cchessme 126.com)[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_hits]150[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
[DhtmlXQ_sortid]7515310[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]桑莫喜[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]桑莫喜[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1]　　[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3]　　：[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16]　　[/DhtmlXQ_comment16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19]　　[/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20]　　：[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31]　　。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_25]　　[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_31]　　。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_19]　　[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_26]　[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_3]　　[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_8]　　[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]　　[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_6]　　[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_1]　　[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_8]　　[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_6]　　[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_1]　　。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_10]　　[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]。　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.dpxq.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.dpxq.com/hldcg/search/index.asp[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-18 14:35
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999949999999887864999974424160289999309999997099990638479999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver]
[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2014-1-10 13:33:56[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_editdate]2014-1-10 13:33:56[/DhtmlXQ_editdate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]小挂印[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]78706064414030407464384849394849393828074241404188814140812106162120404120290719707516267545263645494737383919272928413149453738393836373848373848473828[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_1]292737274945363764542728544441514454283839493747545351415343413143333141334341514353[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_1]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_2]474838371626292607267020[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_3]495964541626544426367077414044430726292636267787[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_4]70400719202941402919474838371626[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_5]746438484959484959582836[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]8838643438283439[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_7]78283839495960508858505859587050[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_7_5_8]28584748[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_5_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_9]4232474849596050785848588858505859587050[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_9]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_length]101[/DhtmlXQ_length]
[DhtmlXQ_type]排局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_class]江湖残局[/DhtmlXQ_class]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_author]667(mail cchessme 126.com)[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_hits]150[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
[DhtmlXQ_sortid]7515310[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]桑莫喜[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]桑莫喜[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1]　　[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3]　　：[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16]　　[/DhtmlXQ_comment16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19]　　[/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20]　　：[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_25]　　[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_31]　　。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_19]　　[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_26]　[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_3]　　[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_8]　　[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]　　[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_6]　　[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_1]　　[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_8]　　[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_6]　　[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_1]　　。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_10]　　[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]。　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_35_10]3839373839493828[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_35_10][DhtmlXQ_comment38]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment38][DhtmlXQ_comment35]這樣較好[/DhtmlXQ_comment35][DhtmlXQ_comment1_31]和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_31][DhtmlXQ_comment1_49]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_49]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D36094%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-18 14:47
原局是這樣

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-18 14:52
30樓黑勝的譜是怎樣的?有誰可提供?

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-19 08:07
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2016-9-19 08:13 编辑

chessbug 发表于 2016-9-17 11:53
这局拟完后，各路变招大致拆解了一遍，红最好的办法是依靠棋规求和。（结尾是否涉及棋例纠纷，请各位老师指 ...

[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]7899999949999999996899414243444550289999309999999999993847999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]一以贯之[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]414030406828384878484748494850554232554548584525[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_12]45442848403048383040384840304838304038484030[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_2]4555584840502827555848495857272857474939474443424434394934382822[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_3]5040682838394959405044544748784850544858394959495458454458564333564649594644333230402822[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_3_16_4]5828433328264443[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_16_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_5]4131303142323132433332316828382878285010495910195958191258591272288872795958793988813130818030314443393858594748[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_9_6]78775080774780894948898848492838495938484748884844434845[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_9_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_8_7]506028294748784838484948606848476869292369494757494544433141231345555747415147485545483851411317[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_8_7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_7_10_8]602033323141323141317838314129392026445426464544464538784546788846458878[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_10_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_8_9]384878484748494850562838314138375646374746454443[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_8_9]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_10]6860505841313031423231324333324244434241785838484939484939382807[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_3_11]7858384849594849[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_3_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1]正确。||另有两变均红负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]这路变化原以为能和，结果似有棋规纠纷。||||另走车6平5吃兵，则红可和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_18]锁定，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_27]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_7]！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_15]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_19]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_1]首着平兵将，红要输棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_8]正确。若改走卒4平5或车6平7，则为和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_22]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_31]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_10]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_27]不变和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_13]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_19]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_16]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_16]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment12_22]不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_22]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-19 11:03
我只研究成和局 ,黑方有何妙法取勝呢? 請同好指導

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[DhtmlXQ_type]排局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_event]将军挂印系列[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_round]将军挂印[/DhtmlXQ_round]
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[DhtmlXQ_hits]622[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
[DhtmlXQ_sortid]1857600[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
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[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]bizenwurax[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]【高佩玉按】7年前去浙江探望裘老师，老师送我若干象棋资料，其中一页江湖型棋图6个，无着无局名，署名朱小坚。后来我对其中一局【就是这局小挂印】极感兴趣，解测结果竟是红先黑胜。||发表于 2009-8-14 16:17 ||||2005.我将这路黑胜走法红黑对掉写成【马壮兵强】刊于棋艺杂志中，又写成数局同型局【百花20中“俏乌龙”即是】。||||对于“小挂印”的红先黑胜结果我很不甘心，发现删去8路底卒可和，整理后寄裘老师校正定稿。||为尊重原著者，试图与朱小坚联系，电话与温满红大师联系【温大师与朱曾联名发表排局刊‘‘棋牌世界’’--其实是编辑部的编辑安排】询朱地址，未果。||后来应《象棋世界》编辑部之约，刊创刊号。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]7870606441403040746438484939484939382807424140418881414081210616212907197075162675452636454947373839192729287969645469594947362654443747393859494443404128294939292839492829263629274737273736373837[/DhtmlXQ_movelist][DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]|| 黑有底卒勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_1]29273727[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_1][DhtmlXQ_comment8_40]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_40]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_2]4945364645054647050840305444474808483738[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_3]403047272627285859694443[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_3][DhtmlXQ_comment3_39]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_39]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_4]374728274737272040415444[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_4][DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_34_5]36372728[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_34_5][DhtmlXQ_comment4_37]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_6]403049473738393836373848373848583828[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_6][DhtmlXQ_comment6_38]可和吧[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_38]
[DhtmlXQ_move_2_33_8]54444030443446474505474805093738[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_33_8][DhtmlXQ_comment2_40]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_40][DhtmlXQ_comment2_31] 劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_31]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_9]54443646444346474342474842414030[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_9][DhtmlXQ_comment9_38]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_38][DhtmlXQ_comment9_31]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_31][DhtmlXQ_comment31]!!謀和正手[/DhtmlXQ_comment31][DhtmlXQ_comment6_31]!![/DhtmlXQ_comment6_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_46] 不變作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_46]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_44_11]493929283949[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_44_11][DhtmlXQ_comment49]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment49][DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]
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作者: chessbug 时间: 2016-9-19 11:11

聨吟客发表于 2016-9-19 08:07

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1]正确。||另有两变均红负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]这路变化原以为能和，结果似有棋规纠纷。||||另走车6平5吃兵，则红可和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_18]锁定，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_27]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_7]！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_15]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_19]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_1]首着平兵将，红要输棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_8]正确。若改走卒4平5或车6平7，则为和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_22]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_31]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_10]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_27]不变和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_13]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_19]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_16]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_16]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment12]這樣呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_22]不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_22]
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作者: chessbug 时间: 2016-9-19 11:21

聨吟客发表于 2016-9-19 11:03
我只研究成和局 ,黑方有何妙法取勝呢? 請同好指導

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[DhtmlXQ_editdate]2009-11-11 12:55:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate]
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[DhtmlXQ_event]将军挂印系列[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_round]将军挂印[/DhtmlXQ_round]
[DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_hits]622[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
[DhtmlXQ_sortid]1857600[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]bizenwurax[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]bizenwurax[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]【高佩玉按】7年前去浙江探望裘老师，老师送我若干象棋资料，其中一页江湖型棋图6个，无着无局名，署名朱小坚。后来我对其中一局【就是这局小挂印】极感兴趣，解测结果竟是红先黑胜。||发表于 2009-8-14 16:17 ||||2005.我将这路黑胜走法红黑对掉写成【马壮兵强】刊于棋艺杂志中，又写成数局同型局【百花20中“俏乌龙”即是】。||||对于“小挂印”的红先黑胜结果我很不甘心，发现删去8路底卒可和，整理后寄裘老师校正定稿。||为尊重原著者，试图与朱小坚联系，电话与温满红大师联系【温大师与朱曾联名发表排局刊‘‘棋牌世界’’--其实是编辑部的编辑安排】询朱地址，未果。||后来应《象棋世界》编辑部之约，刊创刊号。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]|| 黑有底卒勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_7_27_1]29273727[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_27_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_40]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_40]
[DhtmlXQ_move_7_31_2]4945364645054647050840305444474808483738[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_31_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_7_34_3]403047272627285859694443[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_34_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_39]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_39]
[DhtmlXQ_move_7_32_4]374728274737272040415444[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_32_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_34_5]36372728[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_34_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_37]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_7_30_6]403049473738393836373848373848583828[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_30_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_38]可和吧[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_38]
[DhtmlXQ_move_2_33_8]54444030443446474505474805093738[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_33_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_40]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_31] 劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_31]
[DhtmlXQ_move_7_31_9]54443646444346474342474842414030[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_31_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_38]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_31]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_31]!!謀和正手[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_31]!![/DhtmlXQ_comment6_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_46] 不變作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_46]
[DhtmlXQ_move_7_44_11]493929283949[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_44_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_49]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_7]2636454947373839192729287969645469594947362654443747393859494443404128294939292839492829263629274737273736373837[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_7][DhtmlXQ_comment42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42][DhtmlXQ_comment22]黑应这样。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
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作者: chessbug 时间: 2016-9-19 11:24

魔帝大人发表于 2016-9-18 10:16
这个最早的原型局精彩：

魔帝大人慧眼如炬，这局确实是学习朱小坚老师小挂印的涂鸦之作，见笑了

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-19 11:28
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[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2009-11-11 12:55:01[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_editdate]2009-11-11 12:55:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]关于小挂印[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_length]0[/DhtmlXQ_length]
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[DhtmlXQ_event]将军挂印系列[/DhtmlXQ_event]
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[DhtmlXQ_hits]622[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]【高佩玉按】7年前去浙江探望裘老师，老师送我若干象棋资料，其中一页江湖型棋图6个，无着无局名，署名朱小坚。后来我对其中一局【就是这局小挂印】极感兴趣，解测结果竟是红先黑胜。||发表于 2009-8-14 16:17 ||||2005.我将这路黑胜走法红黑对掉写成【马壮兵强】刊于棋艺杂志中，又写成数局同型局【百花20中“俏乌龙”即是】。||||对于“小挂印”的红先黑胜结果我很不甘心，发现删去8路底卒可和，整理后寄裘老师校正定稿。||为尊重原著者，试图与朱小坚联系，电话与温满红大师联系【温大师与朱曾联名发表排局刊‘‘棋牌世界’’--其实是编辑部的编辑安排】询朱地址，未果。||后来应《象棋世界》编辑部之约，刊创刊号。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]|| 黑有底卒勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_1]29273727[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_40]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_40]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_2]4945364645054647050840305444474808483738[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_3]403047272627285859694443[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_39]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_39]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_4]374728274737272040415444[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_34_5]36372728[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_34_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_37]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_6]403049473738393836373848373848583828[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_38]可和吧[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_38]
[DhtmlXQ_move_2_33_8]54444030443446474505474805093738[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_33_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_40]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_31] 劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_31]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_9]54443646444346474342474842414030[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_38]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_31]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31]!!謀和正手[/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_31]!![/DhtmlXQ_comment6_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_46] 不變作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_46]
[DhtmlXQ_move_7_44_11]493929283949[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_44_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_49]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_7]59494443404128294939292839492829263629274737273736373837[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_7][DhtmlXQ_comment47]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment47][DhtmlXQ_comment36]這樣也和[/DhtmlXQ_comment36]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-19 11:35

chessbug 发表于 2016-9-19 11:24
魔帝大人慧眼如炬，这局确实是学习朱小坚老师小挂印的涂鸦之作，见笑了

棋圖雖相近但走法變化內涵完全不同,令人讚嘆, 若說會笑,應該是見到佳局滿足開心的笑吧

34 樓炮七進一真是神, 學習了^O^

作者: yjr123 时间: 2016-9-19 11:40

chessbug 发表于 2016-9-19 11:11

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1]正确。||另有两变均红负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]这路变化原以为能和，结果似有棋规纠纷。||||另走车6平5吃兵，则红可和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_18]锁定，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_27]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_7]！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_15]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_19]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_1]首着平兵将，红要输棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_8]正确。若改走卒4平5或车6平7，则为和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_22]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_31]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_10]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_27]不变和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_13]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_19]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_16]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_16]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_12]這樣呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_22]不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_22]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_13]40502827555848495857272857474939474443424434394934382822[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_13][DhtmlXQ_comment14]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-19 11:43
看到35樓了,感謝

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-19 11:59
嗯
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1]正确。||另有两变均红负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]这路变化原以为能和，结果似有棋规纠纷。||||另走车6平5吃兵，则红可和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_18]锁定，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_27]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_7]！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_15]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_19]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_1]首着平兵将，红要输棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_8]正确。若改走卒4平5或车6平7，则为和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_22]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_31]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_10]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_27]不变和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_13]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_19]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_16]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_16]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_12_13_1]434244545848542428382434[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_13_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_12]這樣呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_22]不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_22]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_13]40502827555848495857272857474939474443424434394934382822[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-19 12:09
那麼我26樓的改局若能和也不算白費功夫了

呵呵呵...........

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-19 12:52
底卒改9路如何?

作者: chessbug 时间: 2016-9-19 13:22

yjr123 发表于 2016-9-19 11:40

多谢余老师指正，这一图势黑胜结论应该确定了。

作者: chessbug 时间: 2016-9-19 13:27

聨吟客发表于 2016-9-19 12:52
底卒改9路如何?

底卒在9路，应与无卒图一样，和棋吧

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-19 14:34
有底卒比刪底卒稍好,因為減少了紅車換馬的和法
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[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2009-11-11 12:55:01[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
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[DhtmlXQ_title]关于小挂印[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-19 23:55
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2016-9-20 05:18 编辑

再一圖,添底仕看看
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作者: chessbug 时间: 2016-9-20 19:06

聨吟客发表于 2016-9-19 23:55
再一圖,添底仕看看

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-20 21:40
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_27]大致和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_19]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_1]这样简单。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1]这样复杂。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_19]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_1]这样简单。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1]这样复杂。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-23 01:26
這樣會不會較滿意?

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-23 09:26
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2016-9-23 09:29 编辑

變化好像不少

作者: chessbug 时间: 2016-9-23 11:08

聨吟客发表于 2016-9-23 09:26
變化好像不少

有些复杂

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-9-24 20:06
主變這樣有沒有問題

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