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标题: 改了古谱,发现蛮有意思的~ [打印本页]

作者: 石川铃华老湿    时间: 2023-12-10 02:27
标题: 改了古谱,发现蛮有意思的~
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作者: 石川铃华老湿    时间: 2023-12-10 02:28
大湿觉得这局放在抖音,应该会火的。
子少简洁~~~
作者: 石川铃华老湿    时间: 2023-12-10 02:31
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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2023-12-10 08:09
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2023-12-10 08:45 编辑

弄个小局,还要卖关子,这类改局我已找到9局(包括:竹谱-云里金刚)。

标题局是《适情雅趣》(邓云龙遗本)“单骑困敌“等古局加黑炮而成,古谱原是红胜局,加黑炮还能胜?若能胜,尚可;若不能胜,则没什么意义!加个大子成和并不难,除非能带来非常的变化才有意义。

2楼改自《竹香斋》“云里金刚”(“单骑困敌”之反局),至今尚未找到这个反局的同型局或改局。
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2023-12-10 08:22
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2023-12-10 08:55
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2023-12-10 09:04
兩位好  最近很紅的 科目三舞步是起源於廣西嗎

我看了一些  笑到沒力  海底撈店員們穿制服跳的 實在太滑稽逗趣  
美女們跳得當然可愛啦  哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈

大濕要不要來跳一段  我好想看大濕跳的  哈哈哈哈哈哈哈
作者: yjr123    时间: 2023-12-10 10:50
老鸽子 发表于 2023-12-10 08:09
弄个小局,还要卖关子,这类改局我已找到9局(包括:竹谱-云里金刚)。

标题局是《适情雅趣》(邓云龙遗 ...

云里金刚局在东萍网有很多改局
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2023-12-10 18:24
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2023-12-11 09:32 编辑

谢谢!“云里金刚”书中不见改局。总体而言,网络上的改局优劣常常拿涅不准,取舍很难,而且多无作者、无出处,所以选得很少。可以确定是当代大师级的改局,例如黄志琦、邢春波等的改局,大多都选了。
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2023-12-10 19:50
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2023-12-10 19:52 编辑
yjr123 发表于 2023-12-10 10:50
云里金刚局在东萍网有很多改局

刚搜了一下,共出来9个改局,其中陈明仁改的占了7局,选其1局,另选了成金军的那1局。再加上大湿这局,连同原局,暂选四局。

大湿改的这局以一炮代四兵,构思特别,应该不错。
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2023-12-10 22:13
老鸽子 发表于 2023-12-10 19:50
刚搜了一下,共出来9个改局,其中陈明仁改的占了7局,选其1局,另选了成金军的那1局。再加上大湿这局,连 ...

我都忘了改那麼多局 呵呵呵呵呵 有的可能失敗或太簡單  鴿兄費心了  多謝
作者: 石川铃华老湿    时间: 2023-12-10 23:27
老鸽子 发表于 2023-12-10 19:50
刚搜了一下,共出来9个改局,其中陈明仁改的占了7局,选其1局,另选了成金军的那1局。再加上大湿这局,连 ...

老鸽子,你竟然敢怀疑大湿~~~
找打啊~~~
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2023-12-11 09:43
石川铃华老湿 发表于 2023-12-10 23:27
老鸽子,你竟然敢怀疑大湿~~~
找打啊~~~

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作者: 高原红    时间: 2023-12-11 11:29
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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2023-12-13 16:51
高原红 发表于 2023-12-13 00:44

“单骑困敌”类局,黑方无象,红方取胜过于简短。18楼在黑方加象的情况下,红方加低兵、仕,应算是红方以最少的子力配置取胜吧,而且复杂度也够,很不错的改局,在下收下了,谢谢西大侠大师,也谢谢陈兄,辛苦了!
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2023-12-13 17:02
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2023-12-13 17:33 编辑

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作者: 高原红    时间: 2023-12-13 17:15
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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2023-12-13 17:36
湖艓 发表于 2023-12-13 17:30

还是胜不了啊
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2023-12-13 18:16
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2023-12-13 18:30 编辑

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高原红 发表于 2023-12-13 20:47

底兵建功
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2023-12-15 09:56
最後兩圖能贏否
作者: yjr123    时间: 2023-12-15 11:14
29楼我也胜不了,这个残局如果红方不能胜实在没有意义。

一路红兵退一格能胜,别有趣味。

25楼局势应该黑胜

作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2023-12-15 15:20
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2023-12-15 16:49
改25樓
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2023-12-15 17:05
28樓  云庫也沒走贏?
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2023-12-16 01:22
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