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标题: 改了古谱，发现蛮有意思的~ [打印本页]

作者: 石川铃华老湿 时间: 2023-12-10 02:27
标题: 改了古谱，发现蛮有意思的~
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作者: 石川铃华老湿 时间: 2023-12-10 02:28
大湿觉得这局放在抖音，应该会火的。
子少简洁~~~

作者: 石川铃华老湿 时间: 2023-12-10 02:31
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作者: 老鸽子 时间: 2023-12-10 08:09
本帖最后由老鸽子于 2023-12-10 08:45 编辑

弄个小局，还要卖关子，这类改局我已找到9局（包括：竹谱-云里金刚）。

标题局是《适情雅趣》（邓云龙遗本）“单骑困敌“等古局加黑炮而成，古谱原是红胜局，加黑炮还能胜？若能胜，尚可；若不能胜，则没什么意义！加个大子成和并不难，除非能带来非常的变化才有意义。

2楼改自《竹香斋》“云里金刚”（“单骑困敌”之反局），至今尚未找到这个反局的同型局或改局。

作者: 老鸽子 时间: 2023-12-10 08:22
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2023-12-10 08:55
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2023-12-10 09:04
兩位好最近很紅的科目三舞步是起源於廣西嗎

我看了一些笑到沒力海底撈店員們穿制服跳的實在太滑稽逗趣
美女們跳得當然可愛啦

哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈

大濕要不要來跳一段我好想看大濕跳的哈哈哈哈哈哈哈

作者: yjr123 时间: 2023-12-10 10:50

老鸽子发表于 2023-12-10 08:09
弄个小局，还要卖关子，这类改局我已找到9局（包括：竹谱-云里金刚）。

标题局是《适情雅趣》（邓云龙遗 ...

云里金刚局在东萍网有很多改局

作者: 老鸽子 时间: 2023-12-10 18:24
本帖最后由老鸽子于 2023-12-11 09:32 编辑

谢谢！“云里金刚”书中不见改局。总体而言，网络上的改局优劣常常拿涅不准，取舍很难，而且多无作者、无出处，所以选得很少。可以确定是当代大师级的改局，例如黄志琦、邢春波等的改局，大多都选了。

作者: 老鸽子 时间: 2023-12-10 19:50
本帖最后由老鸽子于 2023-12-10 19:52 编辑

yjr123 发表于 2023-12-10 10:50
云里金刚局在东萍网有很多改局

刚搜了一下，共出来9个改局，其中陈明仁改的占了7局，选其1局，另选了成金军的那1局。再加上大湿这局，连同原局，暂选四局。

大湿改的这局以一炮代四兵，构思特别，应该不错。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2023-12-10 22:13

老鸽子发表于 2023-12-10 19:50
刚搜了一下，共出来9个改局，其中陈明仁改的占了7局，选其1局，另选了成金军的那1局。再加上大湿这局，连 ...

我都忘了改那麼多局呵呵呵呵呵有的可能失敗或太簡單鴿兄費心了多謝

作者: 石川铃华老湿 时间: 2023-12-10 23:27

老鸽子发表于 2023-12-10 19:50
刚搜了一下，共出来9个改局，其中陈明仁改的占了7局，选其1局，另选了成金军的那1局。再加上大湿这局，连 ...

老鸽子，你竟然敢怀疑大湿~~~
找打啊~~~

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2023-12-11 09:43

石川铃华老湿发表于 2023-12-10 23:27
老鸽子，你竟然敢怀疑大湿~~~
找打啊~~~

鴿鴿說你構思奇特應該不錯是稱讚你

作者: 高原红 时间: 2023-12-11 11:29
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作者: 老鸽子 时间: 2023-12-13 16:51

高原红发表于 2023-12-13 00:44

“单骑困敌”类局，黑方无象，红方取胜过于简短。18楼在黑方加象的情况下，红方加低兵、仕，应算是红方以最少的子力配置取胜吧，而且复杂度也够，很不错的改局，在下收下了，谢谢西大侠大师，也谢谢陈兄，辛苦了！

作者: 老鸽子 时间: 2023-12-13 17:02
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作者: 老鸽子 时间: 2023-12-13 17:36

湖艓发表于 2023-12-13 17:30

还是胜不了啊

作者: 老鸽子 时间: 2023-12-13 18:16
本帖最后由老鸽子于 2023-12-13 18:30 编辑

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作者: 石川铃华老湿 时间: 2023-12-14 11:10

高原红发表于 2023-12-13 20:47

底兵建功

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2023-12-15 09:56
最後兩圖能贏否

作者: yjr123 时间: 2023-12-15 11:14
29楼我也胜不了，这个残局如果红方不能胜实在没有意义。

一路红兵退一格能胜，别有趣味。

25楼局势应该黑胜

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2023-12-15 15:20
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2023-12-15 16:49
改25樓

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2023-12-15 17:05
28樓云庫也沒走贏?

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2023-12-16 01:22
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