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标题: 王和生遗局 车到路开2 [打印本页]
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-9 02:03
标题: 王和生遗局 车到路开2
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2024-6-10 04:24 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment47]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment47][DhtmlXQ_comment0]王和生的普通排局大多作于五、六十年代，字形局主要作于文革回乡时期。此局走马路线特别，可算现代早期借炮使马之上品。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-9 03:10
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[DhtmlXQ_comment49]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment49][DhtmlXQ_comment0]五、六十年代居然就有这种套路！[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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作者: yjr123    时间: 2024-6-9 07:48
上品称不上

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]王和生的普通排局大多作于五、六十年代，字图形排局主要作于文革回乡时期。此局走马路线特别，可算现代早期借炮使马之上品。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2024-6-9 10:51
這樣中品?就不放我名字了
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2024-6-9 11:07
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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-9 11:09
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2024-6-9 11:28
上品乎?  忍不住放我名字了
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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-9 12:14
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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-9 13:24
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2024-6-9 21:38 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]不能抽卒[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_45][DhtmlXQ_comment0]子少着精，早期借炮使马之精品，但布子似有问题，红应有七路高相以挡黑三路炮退守。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-9 13:55
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2024-6-17 08:48 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_38_1]2822[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_38_1][DhtmlXQ_comment1_38]红方无杀，黑胜定！[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_38][DhtmlXQ_comment45]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment45]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_41_2]3354371754351737352737572735[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_41_2][DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]不能退四抽卒，否则又要返回。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_45][DhtmlXQ_comment2_47]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_47][DhtmlXQ_comment0]子少着精，早期借炮使马之精品，但布子似有问题，红应有七路高相以阻三路黑炮退守！[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-9 13:58
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2024-6-9 14:36 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment43]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]果然红有七路高相，上局无相显然系漏刻。因黑三路炮无法改成其它黑子，只能增子挡黑炮退守！但本局布子细节远不如上局严谨。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-9 14:47
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2024-6-17 08:49 编辑

“龙马精神”移到了上面，没注意到，我还以为没传上来，故又重发了一次。
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-9 15:40
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2024-6-9 16:47 编辑

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作者: 湖艓    时间: 2024-6-9 21:19
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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-9 22:18
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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-10 01:36
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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-10 01:52
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2024-6-10 01:53 编辑

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作者: 湖艓    时间: 2024-6-10 03:33
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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-10 03:34
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2024-6-10 12:14 编辑

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作者: 湖艓    时间: 2024-6-10 04:10
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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-10 04:16
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2024-6-10 14:07 编辑

以上所帖之局系王和生（1903-1989年）之散作，1984年王先生将个人积作分类整理为《四化象艺分部集》（手稿，未正式出版），这些棋局应被选入其“荟萃部”，但本人手头无此谱，故不能以此谱帖出。此谱网络拍价3000元起，且多年前即已售罄。

此谱共分五部，即：传彭部（1953年始编，单独成谱，原名《传彭集》）、随笔部（1950年代始编，晚于《传彭集》，单独成谱，原名《象棋随笔》）、字形部（近千局，主要是因文革受牵连，回乡下期间创作）、七子部（即七子排局，如今仅见其（一）70局，半数脱胎于竹谱，作于1973年）、荟萃部（除字形局、七子局之外的排局，包括社会作品）。
作者: 湖艓    时间: 2024-6-10 04:20
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作者: 湖艓    时间: 2024-6-10 04:26
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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-10 04:45
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2024-6-10 04:49 编辑
湖艓 发表于 2024-6-10 04:10

请王大师帮我审核一下19楼“御驾亲征“局是否有问题，是否有收藏价值？此局虽简，但布局新颖，在下想选，但尚未选，一直拿不定主意。
作者: 湖艓    时间: 2024-6-10 05:15
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作者: 湖艓    时间: 2024-6-10 05:30
老鸽子 发表于 2024-6-10 04:45
请王大师帮我审核一下19楼“御驾亲征“局是否有问题，是否有收藏价值？此局虽简，但布局新颖，在下想选， ...

红优势较大。
作者: 湖艓    时间: 2024-6-10 06:25
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2024-6-10 08:01
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作者: 湖艓    时间: 2024-6-11 02:14
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老鸽子 发表于 2024-6-9 11:09

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本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2024-6-17 08:19 编辑
石川铃华老湿 发表于 2024-6-11 02:51

31楼是因为红方漏印七路高相（已补录此相），才出现这个问题，否则末尾黑马3退4，红马八退七即胜。
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