[讨论]相似的棋局——天罗地网

★星海★ · 发表于 2008-6-13 16:10:00

经过多次修改，终于将天门阵改成和局，并且这一局变化复杂郭嘉棋友应该满意了吧？

下面是一路和棋的着法：

[此贴子已经被作者于2008-6-20 16:25:01编辑过]

★星海★ · 发表于 2008-6-19 10:47:00

根据这几天的研究成果，着法整理如下，随时更新。

39楼YJR123指出的错误已更新。大家再看看有没有别的问题。

一路正和：

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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_3]68783539080939370908777030317074636959583132747232317273313273138586373869685857481838086867575867471318[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]75353353594953594959685859490809[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]江湖局典型的陷阱，红方中套黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_10]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_10] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_6_7]4272767268585949403018373337394837384837383745353747493947453537454737364746363746473736303172743132743432423646083839385848383942523454524254444252635352514656[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_6_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_6]黑方的劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_6] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_45]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_45] [DhtmlXQ_move_7_28_8]4737394908017232013151503747493947423233424333324342323342433332[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_28_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_43]黑方长捉违例[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_43] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_9]333876704240514108007077000977373837183740453745[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_9] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_10]33341837345459495451635385757636513136313031534342453745[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_10] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_8]黑方的劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_21]虽红优，取胜比较难。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_21] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_15]这样也可[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_15] [DhtmlXQ_move_10_15_11]7616512116103031535242484948212652420801101131301101264648384645423230403745[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_15_11] [DhtmlXQ_comment11_33]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_33] [DhtmlXQ_move_10_10_12]34317671311148390801514101417141111741421737394837475949685842323040493947454859857563537565535265555251[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_10_12] [DhtmlXQ_comment13_31]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_31] [DhtmlXQ_move_12_28_13]4748324240506353[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_28_13] [DhtmlXQ_comment12_35]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_35] [DhtmlXQ_move_10_10_14]4248453534545949484037255424763640443555443455542421363421313431303125330802514131303312[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_10_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment14_31]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_31] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_19]红优，胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_19] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_8]黑方的劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment8]正着，此变比较复杂，尚难定论，目前认为红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment8] 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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_4]636959583132848232318283313283137576373869685857481838086867575867471318[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_5]75760402323102066606180648420627080127354232354332423747766647420151420231410205665657474140473751210545405043315051452578682528565728275758374721262728262728382724381824141815141131435152436452516472515015551114555414117253115153745171545571417462504055354144353940306254303154424446423446363455364655363141394946424942[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_5] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_39_25]020331323739666757586769514132420343423243133242134342324313[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_39_25] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_46_56]696858574818053532423545423238086869575865554555694955151828152528185857181708001710252232312220101820213132514149412141[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_46_56] [DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.dpxq.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.dpxq.com/hldcg/dhtmlxq/frame.htm[/DhtmlXQ_refer] [DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator] [/DhtmlXQ]

[此贴子已经被作者于2008-6-20 15:44:03编辑过]

hzsjy · 发表于 2008-6-19 11:00:00

QUOTE:

以下是引用★星海★在2008-6-19 8:48:00的发言：
[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]7699999959399918417573999999635132999999309999993342089999998568[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]天罗地网[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]73333233414030407545403076704240394833637077635359495351[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.dpxq.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.dpxq.com/hldcg/dhtmlxq/frame.htm[/DhtmlXQ_refer] [DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator] [/DhtmlXQ]

接下来怎么走?兑车吗？黑方可是有两个卒挖。

呵呵：

提出此变化是想提醒大家．

那个双低卒的改局或９路相位低卒等黑胜局有可能是和局（我还没有验证）！

★星海★ · 发表于 2008-6-13 16:13:00

江湖脚本的又一图，题目是我加的。

hzsjy · 发表于 2008-6-13 16:48:00

嗯，想了很多方案，就是没想到９，６位黑卒．此卒阻止了红中炮平右路的可能．看来可和．

yjr123 · 发表于 2008-6-13 18:19:00

第5回合黑方车４进５呢？

★星海★ · 发表于 2008-6-13 18:27:00

天门阵各图式都不能和，此局更为复杂，值得研究一下，现在说和还有点早。

★星海★ · 发表于 2008-6-14 16:30:00

[此贴子已经被作者于2008-6-14 18:20:03编辑过]

yjr123 · 发表于 2008-6-14 19:50:00

车４进５似乎不成立。车４平７可占优。

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[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_title]天罗地网[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_binit]7699999959399918417573999999635132999999309999993342089999998568[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_90]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_90]
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hzsjy · 发表于 2008-6-14 19:59:00

第10着车４平７黑可胜！

★星海★ · 发表于 2008-6-15 15:15:00

[此贴子已经被作者于2008-6-15 15:19:11编辑过]

hzsjy · 发表于 2008-6-15 16:43:00

hzsjy · 发表于 2008-6-15 17:02:00

呵呵：

上楼着法有误。

★星海★ · 发表于 2008-6-15 17:05:00

不老松 · 发表于 2008-6-15 18:48:00

[此贴子已经被作者于2008-6-15 18:54:48编辑过]

hzsjy · 发表于 2008-6-16 06:04:00

QUOTE:

以下是引用不老松在2008-6-15 18:48:00的发言：

[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]天罗地网[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]73333233414030407545403039484248453533637677687877703031707463695958696858576867575831327472323172746768585731327472323172746867575831327472323172743132[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_binit]7699999959399918417573999999635132999999309999993342089999998568[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/dispbbs.asp%3FboardID%3D48%26ID%3D19531%26page%3D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer] [DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator] [/DhtmlXQ]

如此能和吗?

第11着走车二平六是红胜。
至此此局也基本可说是红胜局了。

不老松 · 发表于 2008-6-16 07:44:00

QUOTE:

以下是引用hzsjy在2008-6-16 6:04:00的发言：

第11着走车二平六是红胜。
至此此局也基本可说是红胜局了。

第11着应帅退一,何来车二平六.

hzsjy · 发表于 2008-6-16 07:53:00

QUOTE:

以下是引用不老松在2008-6-16 7:44:00的发言：

第11着应帅退一,何来车二平六.

呵呵：
您的图第11着走的是车二退一，我改走车二平六。不干帅事。

yjr123 · 发表于 2008-6-16 08:17:00

QUOTE:

以下是引用hzsjy在2008-6-16 6:04:00的发言：

第11着走车二平六是红胜。
至此此局也基本可说是红胜局了。

黑方接走车７进２，红方并无手段啊，黑优可胜吧。

★星海★ · 发表于 2008-6-16 08:20:00

我认为第6回合不老松的车二退一是正着，车二平六被黑车7进2后反而不好走。

不老松 · 发表于 2008-6-16 09:20:00

QUOTE:

以下是引用hzsjy在2008-6-16 7:53:00的发言：

呵呵：
您的图第11着走的是车二退一，我改走车二平六。不干帅事。

按您的着法一试,黑胜!

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★星海★ · 发表于 2008-6-16 10:05:00

QUOTE:

以下是引用★星海★在2008-6-15 15:15:00的发言：

黑将位置差，而且卒还比较远，红方能否抓住机会走成和棋？

试拟着法如下：

[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_title]天罗地网[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]7333323341403040754540303948424876063363060030310005313259496858456548431837084849394303053503333949484037586343495932425866434959584946355540505150466655454232454366366563336343633656584856464858858650408676636232316261313240307666616066566040[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]7699999959399918417573999999635132999999309999993342089999998568[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_90]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_90]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_1]43536555535166745154746254526274525474625453352540412515857555585363151233326250415158486369595869601214323414346050344442324847501044343242584810184849515834444232473758483767756567681819494819394446323168676555671739351710354546455545[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_42]黑方有高卒占优[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_42]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_41_2]58486636[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_41_2][DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]劣着，黑方可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41][DhtmlXQ_comment41]我认为这样能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment41][DhtmlXQ_comment61]如此演变下去和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment61]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs//dispbbs.asp%3Fboardid%3D48%26replyid%3D129592%26id%3D19531%26skin%3D0%26page%3D1%26star%3D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

另一种走法：

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[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_title]天罗地网[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]733332334140304075454030394842487606336306003031000531325949685845654843183708484939430305350333394948403758634349593242586643495958494635554050515046665545423245436636656333634363365658485646485885865040867663623231626131324030767761607778585946486040[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]7699999959399918417573999999635132999999309999993342089999998568[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_90]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_90]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_1]43536555535166745154746254526274525474625453352540412515857555585363151233326250415158486369595869601214323414346050344442324847501044343242584810184849515834444232473758483767756567681819494819394446323168676555671739351710354546455545[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_42]黑方有高卒占优[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_42]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_41_2]58486636[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_41_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]劣着，黑方可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]我认为这样能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_61]如此演变下去和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_61]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_58_3]7666616066566040[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_58_3][DhtmlXQ_comment63]兑车和[/DhtmlXQ_comment63]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs//dispbbs.asp%3Fboardid%3D48%26replyid%3D129369%26id%3D19531%26skin%3D0%26page%3D1%26star%3D2[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

[此贴子已经被作者于2008-6-16 11:03:59编辑过]

不老松 · 发表于 2008-6-16 11:47:00

车二平九后,黑车4进2捉炮,红仍劣势.

yjr123 · 发表于 2008-6-16 12:06:00

错在哪里？

[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_title]天罗地网[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]7333323341403040754540303948424876063363060030310005313259496858456548431837084849394303053503333949484037586343495932425866434959584946355540505150466655454232454366366563336343638586634386765848767743473638484977785040786840306858[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]7699999959399918417573999999635132999999309999993342089999998568[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_90]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_90]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_1]43536555535166745154746254526274525474625453352540412515857555585363151233326250415158486369595869601214323414346050344442324847501044343242584810184849515834444232473758483767756567681819494819394446323168676555671739351710354546455545[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_42]黑方有高卒占优[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_42]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_41_2]58486636[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_41_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]劣着，黑方可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]我认为这样能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_61]如此演变下去和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_61]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_58_3]7666616066566040[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_58_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_63]兑车和[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_63]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_46_4]365658485646485885865040867663623231626131324030767761607778585946486040[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_46_4]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/dispbbs.asp%3FboardID%3D48%26ID%3D19531%26star%3D2%26page%3D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]http://www.dpxq.com/[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

★星海★ · 发表于 2008-6-16 13:08:00

[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_title]天罗地网[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]733332334140304075454030394842487606336306003031000531325949685845654843183708484939430305350333394948403758634349593242586643495958494635554050515046665545423245436636656333634363858650408676636232316261313240307666616066566040564630203626584826284849282649482628484928264948[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]7699999959399918417573999999635132999999309999993342089999998568[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_90]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_90]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_1]43536555535166745154746254526274525474625453352540412515857555585363151233326250415158486369595869601214323414346050344442324847501044343242584810184849515834444232473758483767756567681819494819394446323168676555671739351710354546455545[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_42]黑方有高卒占优[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_42]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_41_2]58486636[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_41_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]劣着，黑方可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]我认为这样能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_61]如此演变下去和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_61]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_58_3]7666616066566040[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_58_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_63]兑车和[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_63]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_46_4]365658485646485885865040867663623231626131324030767761607778585946486040[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_46_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_47_5]634386765848767743473638484977785040786840306858[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_47_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_47]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment69][DhtmlXQ_comment47]这样呢？[/DhtmlXQ_comment47]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs//dispbbs.asp%3Fboardid%3D48%26replyid%3D129369%26id%3D19531%26skin%3D0%26page%3D1%26star%3D3[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]http://www.dpxq.com/[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

yjr123 · 发表于 2008-6-16 13:33:00

呵呵！

[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_title]天罗地网[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]733332334140304075454030394842487606336306003031000531325949685845654843183708484939430305350333394948403758634349593242586643495958494635554050515046665545423245436636656333634363858650408676636232316261313240307666616066566040363858595657[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]7699999959399918417573999999635132999999309999993342089999998568[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_90]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_90]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_1]43536555535166745154746254526274525474625453352540412515857555585363151233326250415158486369595869601214323414346050344442324847501044343242584810184849515834444232473758483767756567681819494819394446323168676555671739351710354546455545[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_42]黑方有高卒占优[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_42]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_41_2]58486636[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_41_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]劣着，黑方可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]我认为这样能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_61]如此演变下去和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_61]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_58_3]7666616066566040[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_58_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_63]兑车和[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_63]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_46_4]365658485646485885865040867663623231626131324030767761607778585946486040[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_46_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_47_5]634386765848767743473638484977785040786840306858[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_47_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_47]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_69]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47]这样呢？[/DhtmlXQ_comment47]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_58_6]564630203626584826284849282649482628484928264948[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_58_6][DhtmlXQ_comment58]！！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment58]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/dispbbs.asp%3FboardID%3D48%26ID%3D19531%26star%3D3%26page%3D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]http://www.dpxq.com/[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
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★星海★ · 发表于 2008-6-16 13:38:00

29回合车三平五是败着。

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[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_title]天罗地网[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]73333233414030407545403039484248760633630600303100053132594968584565484318370848493943030535033339494840375863434959324258664349595849463555405051504666554542324543663665633363436385865040867663623231626131324030766661606656302036266030324230404232584856464849262949482926[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]7699999959399918417573999999635132999999309999993342089999998568[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_90]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_90]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_1]43536555535166745154746254526274525474625453352540412515857555585363151233326250415158486369595869601214323414346050344442324847501044343242584810184849515834444232473758483767756567681819494819394446323168676555671739351710354546455545[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_42]黑方有高卒占优[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_42]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_41_2]58486636[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_41_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]劣着，黑方可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]我认为这样能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_61]如此演变下去和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_61]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_58_3]7666616066566040[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_58_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_63]兑车和[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_63]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_46_4]365658485646485885865040867663623231626131324030767761607778585946486040[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_46_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_47_5]634386765848767743473638484977785040786840306858[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_47_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_47]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_69]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47]这样呢？[/DhtmlXQ_comment47]
[DhtmlXQ_move_7_58_6]564630203626584826284849282649482628484928264948[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_58_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_58]！！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_58]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_57_7]6040363858595657[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_57_7][DhtmlXQ_comment68]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment68]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs//dispbbs.asp%3Fboardid%3D48%26replyid%3D129592%26id%3D19531%26skin%3D0%26page%3D1%26star%3D3[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]http://www.dpxq.com/[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
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应当指出，27回合黑方改走卒8进1可胜，迫使红方提前改变招法走成一将一杀！

红方如果实在没有求和之法，可考虑将黑卒再向后移一步。

[此贴子已经被作者于2008-6-17 11:18:54编辑过]

★星海★ · 发表于 2008-6-16 15:18:00

再研究研究这样的走法:

[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_title]天罗地网[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]733332334140304075454030394842484535336376776878353908093937090877703031707463695958313274723231727331323738696858574818380868675758676858576867575867475859473708783739595818785848393848497848514132427343423243833242415142328385[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]7699999959399918417573999999635132999999309999993342089999998568[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_1]77703031707463695958696858576867575831327472323172746768585731327472323172746867575831327472323172743132[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_1][DhtmlXQ_comment57]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment57]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs//dispbbs.asp%3Fboardid%3D48%26replyid%3D129369%26id%3D19531%26skin%3D0%26page%3D1%26star%3D2[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]http://www.dpxq.com/[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

★星海★ · 发表于 2008-6-16 17:40:00

这样行吗？

[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_title]天罗地网[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]7333323341403040754540303948424845353363767768783539080939376369595869685859482877703031700009190009686718266737091937361911313226052823111232310524363412157868594934444959443459493444495944345949[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
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双方解杀还杀，不变作和。

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★星海★ · 发表于 2008-6-16 18:14:00

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以下是引用不老松在2008-6-16 11:47:00的发言：
车二平九后,黑车4进2捉炮,红仍劣势.

看来车二平九不太好。26、27楼怎样？

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