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[排局资讯] 【转贴】【征答悬赏贴】星星之火

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发表于 2008-12-15 17:12:43 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式

转自泓弈象棋网    新赢家

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关于《征答悬赏贴:星星之火》的说明:

1、“星星之火”为艺术青光软剑棋友根据“高枕无忧”等残局改编,是精妙的构思之局,其中隐藏很多复杂的变化,令我深入其中。几经把玩,不能自拔。为与象棋爱好者一道共同穷尽其变,特由本人征答悬赏。着法为红先,结果待定。

2、凡从今日起至2009年1月16日0点0分参与对“星星之火”跟帖解答的棋友的帖子均列为应答贴。本人将于2009年1月26日对着法最完善的应答贴进行公布,并予以人民币500元的鼓励。

3、所有应答贴均在本主题帖下跟贴,另开的主题帖无效。

4、完善的应答贴只取一个,如有两贴相同的,以发表时间列在前的计取。

5、感谢艺术青光软剑棋友创作并提供了“星星之火”棋局。艺术青光软剑棋友拟出的初步变化参见《星星之火(小和局)》target=_blank>http://www.hychess.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=7112&;extra=page%3D1

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发表于 2008-12-16 00:45:17 | 只看该作者
[ 本帖最后由 凌云子 于 2008-12-16 03:18 编辑 ]
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发表于 2008-12-16 01:23:58 | 只看该作者

更正

不好意思 [ 本帖最后由 凌云子 于 2008-12-16 03:19 编辑 ]
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发表于 2008-12-18 16:30:22 | 只看该作者

抛砖引玉

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发表于 2008-12-22 09:02:36 | 只看该作者
我认为本局不能成立!!!结果为黑胜!!!
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发表于 2008-12-22 09:20:57 | 只看该作者
这能得奖吗? 红先黑胜;试解如下; [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]7699655949999999999979999999998699419930425299994046993899370357[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]征答悬赏贴:星星之火[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]76464232464232317971416242413132414052417176575876366250405041503630383949393242868503048584040584740515746415166454161754445859303317276547272844342838[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/viewthread.php%3Ftid%3D21029%26pid%3D136629%26page%3D1%26extra%3Dpage%253D2%23pid136629[/DhtmlXQ_refer] [DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator] [/DhtmlXQ]
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发表于 2008-12-22 09:35:40 | 只看该作者
上图的着法还有一些小变化。我想其他详尽着法个位朋友都以成竹在胸。
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发表于 2008-12-22 12:21:01 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2008-12-24 11:30:58 | 只看该作者
原帖由 87878787 于 2008-12-22 09:35 发表 上图的着法还有一些小变化。我想其他详尽着法个位朋友都以成竹在胸。
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发表于 2008-12-24 12:23:26 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2008-12-24 17:44:48 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_30]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_30] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_46]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_46] [DhtmlXQ_comment11_48]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_48] [DhtmlXQ_comment12_48]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_48] [DhtmlXQ_comment13_52]黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment13_52] [DhtmlXQ_comment14_46]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_46] [DhtmlXQ_comment15_28]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment16_18]详见附局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_18]详见附局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment18_18]详见附局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment19_24]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment20_22]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_22] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_30]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_30] [DhtmlXQ_comment22_28]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment23_30]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_30] [DhtmlXQ_comment24_14]与主变第6回合黑先退马殊途同归,着法请见变演示略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment25_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment26_63]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_63] [DhtmlXQ_comment27_57]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_57] 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[DhtmlXQ_comment48_20]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_20] [DhtmlXQ_comment49_26]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_26] [DhtmlXQ_comment50_26]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_26] [DhtmlXQ_comment51_28]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment53_26]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_26] [DhtmlXQ_comment54_24]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment55_28]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment56_24]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment57_22]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_22] [DhtmlXQ_comment58_32]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment58_32] [DhtmlXQ_open]A00 非常见开局[/DhtmlXQ_open] [DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.zychess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.zychess.com/bbs/viewthread.php%3Ftid%3D49127%26pid%3D298672%26page%3D2%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer] [DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator] [/DhtmlXQ]
12#
发表于 2008-12-24 19:18:37 | 只看该作者
原帖由 87878787 于 2008-12-22 09:02 发表 我认为本局不能成立!!!结果为黑胜!!!
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13#
发表于 2008-12-25 10:28:44 | 只看该作者

另有和法

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14#
发表于 2008-12-25 10:57:48 | 只看该作者
原帖由 不老松 于 2008-12-25 10:28 发表 www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] 500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] 7699655949999999999979999999998699419930425299994046993899370357[/DhtmlXQ_binit] 征答悬赏贴:星星之火[/DhtmlXQ_title] 残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] 未知[/DhtmlXQ ...
11回合黑方不先进卒,先士6进5逼红方炮定位后相机而动,上士后由于没有炮借助黑将守4路的杀棋,红兵速度又晚一步而负。
15#
发表于 2008-12-25 12:52:02 | 只看该作者
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16#
发表于 2008-12-26 17:29:50 | 只看该作者

再抛一砖

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17#
发表于 2008-12-26 18:29:39 | 只看该作者
见11楼主变。
18#
发表于 2008-12-26 18:34:25 | 只看该作者
没有细看,但和11楼相比,发现第12回合黑方主动变着,才导致红方幸和,黑方如将卒4平5吃相改为卒6进1吃士,则黑方可胜。
19#
发表于 2008-12-26 20:31:40 | 只看该作者
我也没有细看,16楼边兵前进了一步 。
20#
发表于 2008-12-28 15:06:41 | 只看该作者
原帖由 87878787 于 2008-12-22 09:02 发表 我认为本局不能成立!!!结果为黑胜!!!
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21#
发表于 2008-12-28 15:21:02 | 只看该作者
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22#
发表于 2008-12-28 15:28:26 | 只看该作者
[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999475939999999999930999999995499999999425099999999999999371758[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]征答悬赏贴:星星之火[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]1718394937385444182844344252[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/viewthread.php%3Ftid%3D21029%26page%3D1%26extra%3Dpage%253D1%23pid137143[/DhtmlXQ_refer] [DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator] [/DhtmlXQ] (图2)在此以前红相三退五黑边卒抢先成杀!!!黑胜。 [ 本帖最后由 87878787 于 2008-12-28 15:40 编辑 ]
23#
发表于 2008-12-28 15:33:48 | 只看该作者
[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999655939999999999933999999995499999999425099999999999999371758[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]征答悬赏贴:星星之火[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]1718335318286547373839492829[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/viewthread.php%3Ftid%3D21029%26pid%3D137144%26page%3D1%26extra%3Dpage%253D1%23pid137144[/DhtmlXQ_refer] [DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator] [/DhtmlXQ] 图(3)
24#
发表于 2008-12-28 18:38:06 | 只看该作者
呵呵,在这里贴得再详尽也不能得奖。
25#
发表于 2008-12-29 14:58:46 | 只看该作者

黑胜

[难以祥尽。 [ 本帖最后由 87878787 于 2008-12-29 15:01 编辑 ]
26#
发表于 2008-12-29 19:03:06 | 只看该作者
原帖由 87878787 于 2008-12-29 14:58 发表 [难以祥尽。
欲祥尽,就必须把复杂的东西变简单。 补充说明: 82楼正局主变第11回合时,红方改走兵一进一时的变化如下: [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999655939999999999930999999998699999999425099999999999999370358[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]征答悬赏贴:星星之火[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]8685585965475041303342328584374739380304847404057464051564541525544425264434262733132728383947483433323113192829[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment28]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment28] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_28]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_24]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_24] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_2]30354232858403048474040574640515645437473938152535332526544426274434272838394748[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_3]4765030485840405847405157464152564542526544426274434324265473747334327283444473743332829[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_4]472903048584040584740515746415166454162654442627443432423337594939382728[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_4] [DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hychess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hychess.com/bbs/viewthread.php%3Ftid%3D7205%26extra%3Dpage%253D1%26page%3D7[/DhtmlXQ_refer] [DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator] [/DhtmlXQ]
27#
发表于 2008-12-29 19:16:15 | 只看该作者
要把复杂的东西变简单,就是使红方没有过多的选择,红方的变化减少了,也容易使局部或全部局面得出结论。此征答题的特殊是红先黑胜。从理论讲只要证明此局红先黑胜就应该算完成任务。
28#
发表于 2008-12-29 19:43:26 | 只看该作者

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这是您的着法

第11回合红走兵一进一,黑走卒6进1迅速使局面定型并简化。

而选择卒1进1,

如图演示第12回合是走兵一进一,而此局的结论是黑胜,

为了得出黑胜的结论就必须炮六平七炮六平八炮六平九炮六退三炮六退五,相三进五等等。

同样第13回合时是走兵一进一,而此局的结论是黑胜,

为了得出黑胜的结论还必须炮六平七炮六平八炮六平九炮六退三炮六退五,相三进五等等重复解释,

然而在第14回合,第15回合仍要重复解释。

29#
发表于 2008-12-29 23:40:32 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2008-12-30 09:48:28 | 只看该作者
注意;由于本局是黑胜局。本局黑要速胜。红要迟负。
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