（求教结论）《江风引雨》

zbz719 · 发表于 2018-5-23 05:16:35

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邢春波 · 发表于 2018-6-3 21:24:32

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2018-5-24 11:21:44

杨启忠发表于 2018-5-24 08:16
采用人海战术如何呢？如4回红进马，试列几个变化，棋友们再仔细推敲推敲：

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杨启忠 · 发表于 2018-5-23 07:29:24

走两步看看：
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zbz719 · 发表于 2018-5-23 08:18:03

杨启忠发表于 2018-5-23 07:29
走两步看看：

谢谢杨先生解拆。红方单相不知道能不能赢下来？

湖艓 · 发表于 2018-5-23 08:38:01

红方无法取胜。

象棋天使 · 发表于 2018-5-23 11:10:46

是和棋喽。

zbz719 · 发表于 2018-5-24 03:30:30

谢谢湖艓、象棋天使两位老师的参与。
双炮双相例胜士象全的着法很精彩，想做一个单相巧胜的局面，看来难度很大。

杨启忠 · 发表于 2018-5-24 08:16:16

zbz719 发表于 2018-5-23 08:18
谢谢杨先生解拆。红方单相不知道能不能赢下来？

采用人海战术如何呢？如4回红进马，试列几个变化，棋友们再仔细推敲推敲：

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湖艓 · 发表于 2018-5-24 09:00:53

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zhaodi · 发表于 2018-5-24 11:57:10

去掉1路黑象,双炮相胜单缺象

湖艓 · 发表于 2018-5-24 18:51:44

本帖最后由湖艓于 2018-5-24 21:23 编辑

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湖艓 · 发表于 2018-5-24 20:34:42

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zbz719 · 发表于 2018-5-25 02:19:29

杨启忠发表于 2018-5-24 08:16
采用人海战术如何呢？如4回红进马，试列几个变化，棋友们再仔细推敲推敲：

厉害！谢谢杨先生，本局不理想，需要修改。

zbz719 · 发表于 2018-5-25 02:38:40

聨吟客发表于 2018-5-24 11:21

谢谢陈先生出手，和法很巧，只是第七回合红可以走炮一平三伺机回到己方阵地攻击。黑难应付。

zbz719 · 发表于 2018-5-25 02:56:56

湖艓发表于 2018-5-24 18:51

湖艓先生拟局水平很高，佩服！

zbz719 · 发表于 2018-5-25 03:03:01

zhaodi 发表于 2018-5-24 11:57
去掉1路黑象,双炮相胜单缺象

谢谢赵先生的建议，好主意！

zbz719 · 发表于 2018-5-25 03:12:04

原局构思有两个亮点，一个是首着不吃子不打将，妙手点穴；另一个亮点是红诱杀黑双车后，黑为了逃杀而无暇逃马。最后攻子全部被歼。

杨启忠 · 发表于 2018-5-25 12:47:36

zbz719 发表于 2018-5-25 02:19
厉害！谢谢杨先生，本局不理想，需要修改。

建议在黑3.5为设一枚卒子：

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zbz719 · 发表于 2018-5-26 06:10:44

杨启忠发表于 2018-5-25 12:47
建议在黑3.5为设一枚卒子：

杨先生高明！黑象必失，如果能消除人海战术的胜法此局应该很完美了，也可以联名发表一下！

湖艓 · 发表于 2018-5-26 07:44:19

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zbz719 · 发表于 2018-5-27 02:31:39

湖艓发表于 2018-5-26 07:44

谢谢湖艓先生指点，很有价值！

杨启忠 · 发表于 2018-5-28 08:44:37

本帖最后由杨启忠于 2018-5-28 08:45 编辑

zbz719 发表于 2018-5-26 06:10
杨先生高明！黑象必失，如果能消除人海战术的胜法此局应该很完美了，也可以联名发表一下！

还是没有解决黑进底士的问题，这样看看是否消除了人海战术：

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象棋天使 · 发表于 2018-5-28 10:46:17

杨启忠发表于 2018-5-28 08:44
还是没有解决黑进底士的问题，这样看看是否消除了人海战术：

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zbz719 · 发表于 2018-5-29 03:08:40

杨启忠发表于 2018-5-28 08:44
还是没有解决黑进底士的问题，这样看看是否消除了人海战术：

谢谢杨先生进一步的研究，这样可以完全满足红胜的条件了，但如果能胜得巧一点就最好了。

zbz719 · 发表于 2018-5-29 03:13:34

象棋天使发表于 2018-5-28 10:46

谢谢天使的参与，红马二退一很有想法，如果把黑的应着多列出几个变化会更清楚。

杨启忠 · 发表于 2018-5-29 07:01:53

象棋天使发表于 2018-5-28 10:46

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象棋天使 · 发表于 2018-5-29 12:14:34

杨启忠发表于 2018-5-29 07:01

谢谢杨老师悉心指导！

邢春波 · 发表于 2018-5-29 20:53:15

钟老师，这样就是子力多一些，或许能维持您的原创作意图。

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zbz719 · 发表于 2018-5-30 06:49:43

邢春波发表于 2018-5-29 20:53
钟老师，这样就是子力多一些，或许能维持您的原创作意图。

谢谢邢先生出手相助，设计非常好，佩服！
红底兵能否不要？短时间没看出来它的作用。

邢春波 · 发表于 2018-5-30 21:01:06

zbz719 发表于 2018-5-30 06:49
谢谢邢先生出手相助，设计非常好，佩服！
红底兵能否不要？短时间没看出来它的作用。

钟老师您好，红无底兵则是和棋

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