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[江湖局研究] 這是有人在越南看到的马跳檀溪

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31#
发表于 2012-5-8 09:45:31 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]着法 红先和[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_67]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_27]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_52]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_28]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_21]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_15]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_28]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_20]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_12]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_12]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]白宏宽[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
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32#
发表于 2018-10-18 21:00:02 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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33#
 楼主| 发表于 2018-10-18 21:40:23 | 只看该作者
東萍棋庫有初步整理走法
不知誰整理的
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]据说有人在越南看到。||||本局是在《湖涯集》第14 局“马跳檀溪”的棋图中增加黑方边卒而成的,比原局深奥得多。||||||这局的结论尚不能定,还在讨论研究中[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_14]这是个新变化[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_54]红难和[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_1]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_5]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_21]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_7]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_28]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_56]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_44]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_52]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_27]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_33]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14]这是非常复杂的一变[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_15]hanghang提供的着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_47]这样反而红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_28]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_28]如误走车8平5则炮九平五红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_32]不变和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_22]以下车炮对车马象和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_22]复杂局面[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_15]这样把局势复杂化了[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_24]这和第8回合直接走炮二退八的效果相同[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_15]这和炮二退八的效果相同[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]红必丢相且阵型不佳,处于下风[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]这样可能不好[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_22]这样速和了[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_36]红无法阻挡黑车马攻势,黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_23]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_32]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_25]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_14]这变也复杂,不易对付[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_15]这样可能比较简明, 但红明显一直处于下风[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]因红要打车,所以黑必须立即解套。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_14]这是劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_25]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_21]这样黑白白让红调整了位置,显然不合算[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_25]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_15]强硬派的走法,认为黑边卒不足为虑,企图保留子力优势。实际变化红方不但没有优势,求和也难。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]至此红求和十分困难。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]
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34#
发表于 2018-10-19 08:25:29 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_author]白宏宽[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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35#
发表于 2019-2-12 17:29:49 | 只看该作者
记得多年前我以公司的名义邀请到了吕钦、许银川和洪智大师光临,特意切磋了江湖残局,其中就有有这一局,因变化复杂我特意邀请了许银川和吕钦大师研究这局,当时亲眼见到了许银川和吕钦两位大师走这一局,演变结果黑胜。这么多年了,也不记得当初的着法了
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