聨吟客的手寫稿舊局

聨吟客

一方面又要修改

進度會很慢

還是先把有把握較無錯誤又覺得不錯的局貼上來?
呵呵呵

聨吟客

局名圖勢都有改動
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[DhtmlXQ_comment55]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment55]
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這樣複雜不知能和否
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只好這樣伴隨修改局或再創新局貼下去

因為原稿太多錯漏或不成熟不滿意或太簡單的作品

呵呵呵呵

聨吟客

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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_48]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_48][DhtmlXQ_comment5_52]紅不能退仕||黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_52]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment6_64]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_64]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_74]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_74]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_82]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_82]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_70]||黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_70]
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發現一種和法
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_48]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_52]紅不能退仕||黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_74]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_74]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_68]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_68]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_53]紅倖和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_50]軟[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_64]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_64]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_74]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_74]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_82]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_82]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_70]||黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_70]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment47]應這樣可能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_62]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_62]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment61]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_59]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_59]
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所以可以這樣就沒有35樓的變化 我認為如果能做出35樓唯一正解的局勢較精采 可惜暫時還未突破
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路漫漫而長遠...................

聨吟客

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我原稿有三圖 應是這個才能和
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剑影¤独步

聨吟客 发表于 2022-1-17 11:09
這樣看看

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[DhtmlXQ_comment118]和……[/DhtmlXQ_comment118]
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湖艓

剑影¤独步 发表于 2022-1-17 23:24

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剑影¤独步

湖艓 发表于 2022-1-18 00:11

干啥？41楼有的

聨吟客

哇

感謝劍影先生辛苦了
脫帽後這種難以歸納的棋型
我只是感覺 雙方都不太容易取勝 但也沒太大把握
我是不可能解得像劍兄這麼深入的
謝謝

歡迎感謝所有來討論的人

老鸽子

聨吟客 发表于 2022-1-14 16:06

湖心醉月——弃车上仕类局，从《百变》之”六将下江南“、《百局》之”二车先行“，《蕉竹斋》之”五兵追王“，到现代”饮马六出”(蜀局摘锦)，可以说数以百计。特别是古谱，几乎无谱不有此类局。但四路宫兵右移一步，唯陈兄也！黑方改为双车，带来了全新的变化（与“小双车”不同）。直到2010年钟志康《民间象棋排局》之“单炮六出改图”，才出现一黑双车局，但因棋型有别，着法也不同。

这就是象棋排局的生命力所在！谢谢陈兄无私的奉献！

湖艓

这样看看
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聨吟客

感謝鴿兄
年歲漸長
而且智弈網消失 我在那邊貼的局都看不到
趁現在尚有一點精力還能搞個幾年整理舊作
讓大家可以收藏  甚至若有人編書可入選喜歡的 但必須有我名字
以免以後這些局石沉大海

46樓湖大師可以用自己的名字囉

聨吟客

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老鸽子

聨吟客 发表于 2022-1-14 16:03

“车马競行”局也很罕见，还是不错的。无论胜负和，都是一种新思路。1999年韦志新《古今中外象棋名局荟萃》（少量棋局原创）里有一局“二登田螺岭”，也是黑马控帅的，但黑马在6•10位，无黑炮。

请陈兄分一下类，一个类别一个主题，按类上传！否则上传多了，很难查找。

yjr123

聨吟客 发表于 2022-1-18 01:43
哇

感謝劍影先生辛苦了

双方都不太容易取胜，最后也和了，这有何意义？
双方都不太容易取胜，最后某方胜了；或者双方都有很多陷阱，最后巧妙成和，这才是排局。难和的局面最后和了，难胜的局面最后胜了，这应该的排局的基本要求。

聨吟客

老鸽子 发表于 2022-1-18 11:13
“车马競行”局也很罕见，很不错。1999年韦志新《古今中外象棋名局荟萃》（少量棋局原创）里有一局“二登 ...

原稿已被余先生指正

已 有修改局

有些局暫時未能改得滿意就先擱著或跳過
以後再說
呵呵呵

老鸽子

聨吟客 发表于 2022-1-18 11:29
原稿已被余先生指正

已 有修改局

这些我都看过，当然需要改，但总体思路还是可行的。

聨吟客

yjr123 发表于 2022-1-18 11:29
双方都不太容易取胜，最后也和了，这有何意义？
双方都不太容易取胜，最后某方胜了；或者双方都有很多陷 ...

說的甚是

只是要實現35樓那個主變為唯一正解的構思
脫帽後的棋局嚴謹性就難以兼顧了
劍影先生的走法我還未深入研究
湖大師的改局我也還未研究
功成可不必在我
呵呵呵

銀鞍白馬第一圖的我已覺得不錯了
第三圖參考第二圖貼出的的和法也不錯
第四圖實現35樓變化我也高興 至於能否更好有待來日ˋ
感謝

yjr123

聨吟客 发表于 2022-1-18 10:48
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第4回合黑走错

老鸽子

“车马競行”还是以头一局为佳，红方边兵不能去掉，否则就没多大意义了；不要东改西改了，就按余老师的精彩着法，推理设计出一局和局来。余老师是何等的见识和水准，有目共睹，令在下一直佩服得五体投地！这绝不是什么夸，有事实为证：他对数以千计的江湖局的诠释，都有独到的见解！在一些棋书中，也能见到引用余老师的着法。

余老师的要求很高，江湖棋局没有江湖味就难成佳作。在下没有时间去详细推敲每局的着法，对棋局的印象只是初步的，也只能提点粗浅的建议。错误在所难免，在此深表歉意。

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聨吟客

老鸽子 发表于 2022-1-18 15:11
“车马競行”还是以头一局为佳，红方边兵不能去掉，否则就没多大意义了；不要东改西改了，就按余老师的精彩 ...

那個走法紅雙車都活躍了

很難改
有時間再說吧