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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-24 07:48
标题: 鬼斧神工
此局我沒有十足把握,請棋友們檢驗,謝謝

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-26 19:17
補充變著, 懇請大家幫忙檢驗,如無錯誤, 此局算是我最滿意與喜愛的作品之一

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作者: 邢春波 时间: 2012-11-26 20:19
補充變著, 懇請大家幫忙檢驗,如無錯誤, 此局算是我最滿意與喜愛的作品之一 [DhtmlXQ] [Dh ...[/quote] [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]7599999949999927769977995341260650994299329924993899029999251558[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title] 鬼斧神工 (聨吟客擬局) [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event]网上收集[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]755558484959506053636063763638367772422055522042525642205636324236464232274802724856[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_3]7636383675353635777250525352354527484548[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1]757302037779037376732526736326277972505272793848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_2]773758484959383776565060757960675343675756573757[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_3_3_5]755550607772606255752526[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_3_5] [DhtmlXQ_move_3_3_4]754550537772535245752526[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_3_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_3_7]7370584849595053[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_3_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_3_6]5352584849595052[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_3_6] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_7_9]53435859[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_7_9] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_7_8]27193848[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_7_8] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_10]50605558[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_10] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_11]27483839[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_11] [DhtmlXQ_move_34_20_12]64425256422456363242365642325652244252534224720224025313[/DhtmlXQ_move_34_20_12] [DhtmlXQ_move_34_21_13]525642465652644252534224535224425253422472024656535636565747564647573242[/DhtmlXQ_move_34_21_13] [DhtmlXQ_move_13_31_14]5323465657473646[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_31_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_34_22_18]644252534224262515255323324223223632222432352422353222253236252236322220323620223632222332362343423243030212031312221323365657475646475732422322[/DhtmlXQ_move_34_22_18] [DhtmlXQ_move_34_22_15]20425253422026251525532332422322363222253236252236322220323620223632222432362444423244040212041412221424365657475646475732422422[/DhtmlXQ_move_34_22_15] [DhtmlXQ_move_15_24_16]25265323[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_24_16] [DhtmlXQ_move_18_24_19]25265323[/DhtmlXQ_move_18_24_19] [DhtmlXQ_move_18_32_17]32122444423257471217474817374424[/DhtmlXQ_move_18_32_17] [DhtmlXQ_move_15_32_20]32122545423257471217474817374525[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_32_20] [DhtmlXQ_move_18_40_21]321220231217575817372343423243030212031312221323324223223732223242325848[/DhtmlXQ_move_18_40_21] [DhtmlXQ_move_34_26_22]253505043545041445461424363757584647242347575257375758574244[/DhtmlXQ_move_34_26_22] [DhtmlXQ_move_29_36_27]2535050482845313[/DhtmlXQ_move_29_36_27] [DhtmlXQ_move_29_36_23]8284531334141333[/DhtmlXQ_move_29_36_23] [DhtmlXQ_move_26_42_25]828413233454535484542333[/DhtmlXQ_move_26_42_25] [DhtmlXQ_move_26_40_24]82845323[/DhtmlXQ_move_26_40_24] [DhtmlXQ_move_27_38_26]354504144546141334375758464713234757535737575848[/DhtmlXQ_move_27_38_26] [DhtmlXQ_move_28_28_30]25355250[/DhtmlXQ_move_28_28_30] [DhtmlXQ_move_31_38_32]42822333393353333242334342324347[/DhtmlXQ_move_31_38_32] [DhtmlXQ_move_32_40_33]32425343[/DhtmlXQ_move_32_40_33] [DhtmlXQ_move_34_27_28]5161344452504282[/DhtmlXQ_move_34_27_28] [DhtmlXQ_move_34_28_29]428253522042525342205352204252534220535220425253[/DhtmlXQ_move_34_28_29] [DhtmlXQ_move_34_34_31]3439575846472423393858594748233338335333[/DhtmlXQ_move_34_34_31] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_34]27483839595860685857684876363936777242205352244252514264555248427242024226251525060536345253253505043545041445461424343757584647242347575357375758574244[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_34][DhtmlXQ_comment21]红优势[/DhtmlXQ_comment21] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-27 04:02
非常感謝邢兄

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-27 04:18
補充變著,歡迎大家檢驗各種變化

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-27 12:13
再研究兵四平三的變化很複雜,黑好像未必能勝??

先休息了, 以後再看有何發現

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-27 12:17
樓上有點亂, 晚點再調整變著中雙方的主次走法

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-27 17:19
整理修訂

兵四平三的變化應黑勝了

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-27 17:52
補充變化

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作者: zhaodi 时间: 2012-11-27 18:11
改成底象不行的。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment3]zhaodi[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
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作者: 桑莫喜 时间: 2012-11-27 18:18
8搂13回合局面,黑走子.[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999957999999529999999905514199992099329964993699429999999925[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title] 鬼斧神工 (聨吟客擬局) [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event]网上收集[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]363305042526041426365254364614244244545264425254200224143334413132311413343757584647544437385859474844483848[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-27 18:26
唉唉,感謝大家 ,此局問題多多 ,呵呵, 有時間再修改 , 這個型不好搞

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-27 18:33
3 樓好像還很複雜?再說吧

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-27 21:03
修改局,這樣局面清爽許多,呵呵

,我先擬一種雙方平穩的走法,大家看看還有什麼變化

作者: 会心斋 时间: 2012-11-27 21:36
这局棋起点很高，应该可以修订成一则好局。我没时间研究具体变化，仅谈谈我个人的认识：（不仅仅针对这一局，而是我对于类似棋局的基本考虑）
1、“和路”要尽可能“少”。最好只有一路和法。在和路少的前提下，再最求变路多。
2、“和法”要尽可能“巧”。
对于上述两点，我更看重第2点。
基于这种认识，我对这局棋修改方向有下面这样的直观感觉：
应该考虑把第3回合兵四平三作为主变进行深入研究、修订，使之成为和路，而把其他变化修订成败路。
祝你早日修订成功！

作者: 会心斋 时间: 2012-11-27 21:40
刚写完上面的文字，结果发现楼主已在10分钟前贴出新图。呵呵！

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-27 21:54
感謝會心齋兄的鼓勵, 此局草圖是我10 多年前舊搞, 與上述局面都有差異也有發現問題, 最近翻出來搞,
感謝邢兄發現兵四平三妙手,此著真個是名副其實的鬼斧神工!!

大家再幫忙看看14樓能否成局

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-28 02:33
14 樓末段走法欠妥需修正,應這樣就和勢了

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-28 02:56
11樓局面研究,似乎也可和

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-28 03:05
樓上不對,真是黑勝

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-28 03:48
啊哈~~!!這樣是否可以滿意?

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-28 08:12
樓上20回合黑應車5退1再進卒可勝,所以紅走法需修正

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-28 08:35
16回合紅改砲八退四好像可和

作者: 会心斋 时间: 2012-11-28 09:35
楼上18回合卒4进1不好，19回合红可直接车四平六吃卒。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-28 10:08
紅好像還是難走,又頭大了

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作者: yjr123 时间: 2012-11-28 12:49
楼上第3回合马七退五不是能和吗

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-28 16:33

yjr123 发表于 2012-11-28 12:49
楼上第3回合马七退五不是能和吗

哦,感覺黑優,未繼續鑽研, 我再看看....

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-28 16:57
這樣只能亞洲規則,呵呵, 如果是以前我還沒有與大陸棋友交流與投稿時,我可以認為這是成功的, 但今非昔比, 現在盡量不以亞規為標準

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-28 17:22
發現棄炮逃兵好像可以

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-28 17:28
這樣紅勝了

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-28 17:32
只好這樣雙方不變作和,沒想到搞到最後雙方是以這個變化樣收場的

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-28 17:40
好累,呵呵呵,18 樓的會比較好嗎?我自己也不知道@@

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-28 18:21
18樓紅勝
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2012-11-28 18:27
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-28 18:28
不對,和法同31樓,走到暈了

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-28 18:34
oh!感謝余兄指正, 唉唉,我再繼續努力吧

作者: yjr123 时间: 2012-11-28 18:40

聨吟客发表于 2012-11-28 18:34
oh!感謝余兄指正, 唉唉,我再繼續努力吧

再研究一下马七退五是否能和？

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-28 18:45
這個如何?{:soso_e100:}
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-28 18:49

yjr123 发表于 2012-11-28 18:40
再研究一下马七退五是否能和？

哦? 余兄好像胸有成竹 ,呵呵呵, 我先去吃飯了,休息後再仔細研究

作者: yjr123 时间: 2012-11-28 19:07
38楼棋图好，着法还需要斟酌。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-28 22:21
先修訂35樓

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-28 22:29
仍有規則問題
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-28 22:42
嗯,38樓走法不大對,我再研究研究

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-29 06:49
應這樣{:soso_e100:} (車八退三的變著較複雜 ,待研)
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-29 07:00
18 黑如炮9進1,紅就可以車占宮心兌車{:soso_e100:}
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-29 07:11
黑不兌車還有變化, 好複雜,待研究

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作者: yjr123 时间: 2012-11-29 08:04
第12回合红方可以考虑兵九进一

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-29 11:45
好的,我下午找時間研究12回合兵九進一這個變化{:soso_e100:}

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-29 17:05
嗯,先兵九進一可趕赴殺後卒使前卒失根,而黑也無暇殺七路未過河兵,最後黑雙卒盡滅,妙哉!{:soso_e100:}
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-29 17:25
11 樓再研究,這個局面是否也能和呢?如果可以,樓上的邊兵是否還可後退一步?{:soso_e100:}
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-29 17:29
喔,適時進邊象黑優{:soso_e100:}

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-29 17:57
又發現兵七進一的不少變化,好像也有和望?

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-29 18:03
51樓也可和?

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-29 18:11
那麼邊兵後退一步,是否最好的局勢呢?

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-29 18:15
喔,這樣看看,呵呵呵,有點走火入魔了,吃飯休息時間到了

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-30 06:03
稍微排演,樓上變化太複雜, 以我是作者的立場希望能和, 那麼54 樓就是一則變化複雜深澳奧的大型局( 勉強可算江湖大局?),也可成我的代表作之一. ... 呵呵,
不過到底會如何,還需努力研究, 也請棋友們協助幫忙

作者: yjr123 时间: 2012-11-30 10:34
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-11-30 15:13
55 樓的某些變著也還需修訂, 非常複雜細膩, 恐怕要耗費一段時日了

57樓走成黑需求和的局面,
我仍希望54( 可走成55)樓局紅方能和局,還需時間鑽研

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-12-3 20:43
再研究,54 樓好像真的能和?

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-12-3 23:15
謝謝大家, 變化很多,再研究看看

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-12-4 11:16
再修訂一下{:soso_e100:}
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2012-12-4 17:00
兵退后一格，双方均势，和棋应该不难。江湖棋局就是要一方优势，劣势方有妙手求和机会。

走大错失局那是另外一回事。

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-12-4 17:02
修正一變要及時退帥的棋{:soso_e100:}
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-12-4 17:05
各種變化犬牙交錯,走得我暈頭轉向的,呵呵,

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-12-4 17:10
喔, 余兄手快64樓已經解岀了,

,呵呵呵,兵在河口的黑方確是驚險,我還沒努力研究

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-12-4 17:23
64樓余兄的注解是說紅方尋死還是黑方?余兄認為不難,我卻自己困在迷陣中,呵呵呵,晚餐時間又到了晚點再來

作者: yjr123 时间: 2012-12-4 18:43
当然是黑方寻死

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作者: 平原一刀 时间: 2012-12-4 19:18
感觉黑方被红锁的很紧

如果自己拿上街摆摊的话很吃亏

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-12-4 22:34
不過黑方有別的變著可和,需再調整一下

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-12-4 22:41
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2012-12-4 22:45 编辑

例如15回合進象,或17回合進車, 或13回合的另兩變, 黑應都能和, 黑芳選擇較多 {:soso_e100:}
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-12-4 22:48

平原一刀发表于 2012-12-4 19:18
感觉黑方被红锁的很紧如果自己拿上街摆摊的话很吃亏

是指邊兵在河口的那局嗎?

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-12-4 23:55
邊兵在河口局,黑還真的不好走, 呵呵呵,沒有想像中容易,努力中.....

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-12-5 07:54
兵在河口怎麼研究成紅勝?

呵呵呵,黑方有妙手可和嗎?
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-12-5 08:06
這樣較頑強?

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-12-5 10:31
應這樣? 待研究{:soso_e100:}
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-12-5 10:35
難道真是紅勝?

作者: yjr123 时间: 2012-12-5 10:38
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-12-5 10:40
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[DhtmlXQ_comment26]应走卒3进1较好[/DhtmlXQ_comment26]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-12-5 11:11
晚點再研究{:soso_e100:},黑方求和(或不能和)的局如果擺棋攤, 攤主也可以規定此局和局算黑勝, 呵呵

作者: 平原一刀 时间: 2012-12-5 11:19
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2012-12-5 12:02

聨吟客发表于 2012-12-5 11:11
晚點再研究,黑方求和(或不能和)的局如果擺棋攤, 攤主也可以規定此局和局算黑勝, 呵呵

江湖棋局不是分红盘、青盘、混盘吗？

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-12-5 12:05

平原一刀发表于 2012-12-5 11:19
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可能紅勝局
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-12-5 12:13
這樣黑優
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-12-5 12:17
感覺樓上首著前車進一還有變化,有空再研究

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-12-5 12:20
不對,馬吃卒嘞,哈哈,那應紅勝囉?

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-12-5 12:32

yjr123 发表于 2012-12-5 12:02
江湖棋局不是分红盘、青盘、混盘吗？

台灣的棋攤沒有這種術語, 不過攤主當然可自訂分勝負的辦法, 但都使用亞規, 所以七星聚會之類可以走成一將一打的局變得太簡單並不流行,
台北市的棋攤似已絕跡多年, 也難找到合適的地點擺

作者: liqingsong 时间: 2012-12-5 12:33
红第四回合后车平四呢?
红炮二平五黑可车7平9

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-12-5 12:45
嗯,首著前車進一可能不成立了
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-12-5 12:48
樓上怎麼沒有顯示新變化?呵乎,休息了,晚點再來

作者: yjr123 时间: 2012-12-5 15:34
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-12-5 17:48
喔,前車進一果然有棋

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-12-5 18:00
這樣好像也紅勝
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_26]应走卒3进1较好[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_26]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-12-5 18:06
應這樣,再研究看看{:soso_e100:}
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-12-5 18:10
這樣才對,紅優{:soso_e113:}
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[DhtmlXQ_event]网上收集[/DhtmlXQ_event]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment23]妙着，红方不应满足于求和，因为这局是红方优势的棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]可能是软着[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_26]应走卒3进1较好[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_26]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-12-5 18:13
這樣不知如何
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[DhtmlXQ_comment23]妙着，红方不应满足于求和，因为这局是红方优势的棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]可能是软着[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_26]应走卒3进1较好[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_2]2002[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_2]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_6_31_16]5758330352544243[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_31_16]
[DhtmlXQ_move_17_34_7]4647525042823433[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_34_7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_17_36_8]428234333242413103335052[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_36_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_19_31_18]243436465758464752504282343332424131474858570307[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_31_18]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-12-7 08:45
這樣紅又不好走了,呵呵, 真頭痛

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2012-12-7 08:47
還有這樣
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[DhtmlXQ_comment23]妙着，红方不应满足于求和，因为这局是红方优势的棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]可能是软着[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_26]应走卒3进1较好[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_2]2002[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_2]
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