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标题: 请无心恋看看"单炮盖车局"的改局 [打印本页]

作者: hzsjy    时间: 2010-3-13 19:34
标题: 请无心恋看看"单炮盖车局"的改局
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作者: 无心恋    时间: 2010-3-14 09:11
感觉到后面应是红优 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]8399479959999999997399134174999960399999309999999984991618489999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]马蹄声里度芳辰[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark]沈济英[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]沈济英[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]谢王立之送花 陈师道 宋||||过雨生泥风作尘,马蹄声里度芳辰。||城南居士风流在,时送名花与报春。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_owner]沈济英[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]4765605073531828535150514151283883333040334340307484485859493848434858484948[/DhtmlXQ_movelist][DhtmlXQ_comment1]正[/DhtmlXQ_comment1][DhtmlXQ_comment4]正[/DhtmlXQ_comment4] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1]7370[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1][DhtmlXQ_comment1_1]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_2]435348585358395859588489[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_2][DhtmlXQ_comment19]红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment19][DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]红优[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_18] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: hzsjy    时间: 2010-3-14 09:28
呵呵: 上楼末后红三兵分散,应是黑优,红还要走出弃子的棋来才可以求和呢.
作者: 无心恋    时间: 2010-3-14 09:33
第七回合红有两变,本人认为至少有一变属红优.
作者: hzsjy    时间: 2010-3-14 09:41
哦! 这一变我倒是没有拆过.
作者: hzsjy    时间: 2010-3-14 09:51
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作者: yjr123    时间: 2010-3-14 10:20
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]谢王立之送花 陈师道 宋||||过雨生泥风作尘,马蹄声里度芳辰。||城南居士风流在,时送名花与报春。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_53]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_50]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_70]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_45]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_36]例和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_48]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_26]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_12]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_12]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2010-3-14 10:29
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作者: 无心恋    时间: 2010-3-14 10:40
就算有影响也应该是对红方不利的影响
作者: hzsjy    时间: 2010-3-14 17:06
嗯: 7楼余先生的着法黑欠行而负.可在1路加一只老卒可和.其它着法可同1楼.
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2010-3-17 17:57
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2010-3-18 05:46
加底卒局紅這樣走呢?我怎麼仍然覺得紅平帥黑不好走?雖然紅帥看似離開中路險要,但好像反而棋路變得寬廣許多,黑仍要煩惱紅三兵的游擊戰,黑接下去怎麼走?棋友們指導一下吧^__^ [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]8399479959999999997399134174999960399999309999999984991618489909[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]马蹄声里度芳辰[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark]沈济英[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]沈济英[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_owner]沈济英[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]476560507353182853515051415128388333304033434030748448585949384843485848494839274858[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2010-3-18 06:16
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2010-3-19 10:19
添低卒增加了紅方謀和難度,尚待研究
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2010-3-23 17:25
第6回合兵四平五好像黑可勝,但先兵八平七不知如何呢?很多變化待研
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2010-3-26 09:09
樓上這樣走應也黑可勝
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2010-3-26 09:26
再改成這樣看看,好像能和?
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作者: 无心恋    时间: 2015-11-21 20:50
这些改局棋子多了,江湖残局还是追求棋子少而精
作者: 无心恋    时间: 2015-11-21 20:52
这一局的原型不知我在哪里发过帖,找不到了
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-11-21 22:22
喔,原來我以前改了這麼多圖,都忘記了,呵呵呵呵呵
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-11-21 22:49
17樓走法好像有點問題
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-11-21 22:57
无心恋 发表于 2015-11-21 20:50
这些改局棋子多了,江湖残局还是追求棋子少而精

紅七子,黑八子,合計十五子, 不多不多, 嘻嘻嘻.........
作者: 无心恋    时间: 2015-11-21 23:04
我排江湖型残局,力求不超过14子,不信可查查我发的帖
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2015-11-21 23:14
嗯, 每人的自我要求或習慣各不相同,  15子對於古今江湖局譜來說真的不算多,超過14子的也有很多優秀精彩的局, 當然我 此局改得很普通僅當參考

另一帖主題的 那個最後的改局,經各位高手不斷研究,似乎很不錯




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