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作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2011-6-4 22:41
标题: 三战吕布修改局
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作者: zhiqihuang 时间: 2011-6-4 22:52
兵卒可以长捉，但长将是任何情况下都不允许的吧？（除非双方都长将）。 皇▆冠▆现▆金▆网：hg88094.com开户首▆存送58元.满1000送1088彩_金▆体育半场结算六_合48倍▆各种彩▆票▆游戏.

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2011-6-4 23:19
是的，犯规了，红可能另有他解 真人游戏|足球篮球|时时コ彩| 六合投コ注| 网络赚钱:顶级信用コ提现百分百即时到账SO.CC

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2011-6-5 07:23
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2011-6-5 07:30
4樓比1樓紅多走一步兵所以黑不宜變著,4樓黑如仍按照1樓走法反而可能紅優吧

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2011-6-5 08:11
喔這樣紅一將一殺,大陸規則還是黑勝

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2011-6-5 08:24
棄兵!?最後互走閑著?

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2011-6-5 09:04
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作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2011-6-5 22:37
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作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2011-7-18 14:54
好久了，都没有人理，看来此局要睡很长时间了

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2015-2-7 22:23
回复 7# 聨吟客 [/quote]这招到底是长献还是长将？ [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999699949990799799968999999410480990299309999999999993647589999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]110419[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2011-2-28 11:04:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2011-6-4 22:03:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]隔岸观火4[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]4939584869473637472502206888805007292042040342607969608269795060795948585979606179708260707937388838584838376168031348383949684849593839413130403141403041313040[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]44[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_hits]84[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_owner]yuntao[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_oldowner]yuntao[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner] [DhtmlXQ_comment40]这招到底是长献还是长将？[/DhtmlXQ_comment40] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: sdndsx 时间: 2015-2-8 09:21
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2015-2-9 07:49 编辑

谢谢楼主分享！
个人观点（不一定正确）：
是长将，不是长献（献兼将，按将处理）。允许兵（卒）自身（不管有没有“根”，只要没造成新的“打”就是允许的）长捉（注意一个“长”字，除非对方也长打可判和之外）按闲处理。不允许兵（卒）长将（任何单方长将都是不允许的！除非是双方长将，按长生和处理）！

我对兵（卒）长捉（注意：不是单捉），曾发过帖子，裁判界的好多同仁就是不关注这个“长”字。认为兵（卒）的单捉是允许的，那要这个“长”字干什么？干脆允许兵（卒）单捉按闲处理得啦。

举一个例子（七星聚会）：
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明明是红方的兵是在一捉一杀（按现例必须变着，不变作负！黑方的车4平1，那可是闲啊！至于是胜是和，那是下一步的事，不属于待判局面。），裁判界有的同仁（偏偏不关注这个“长”字，兵是单捉啊！没有长捉啊？）认为是允许着法（古例作和，现例呢？），是兵在长捉吗（明明是兵在单捉吗！）？至今没有人给予确定的结论。

作者: yjr123 时间: 2015-2-8 09:45

yuntao云涛发表于 2011-7-18 14:54
好久了，都没有人理，看来此局要睡很长时间了

这样看看

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作者: 菜鸟来玩 时间: 2015-2-8 10:08

yjr123 发表于 2015-2-8 09:45
这样看看

12回合卒4进1，送黑的归西

作者: 菜鸟来玩 时间: 2015-2-8 10:10

yuntao云涛发表于 2015-2-7 22:23
这招到底是长献还是长将？

6回合兵九进一送红的归西

这局不是太好。

作者: yjr123 时间: 2015-2-8 10:51

菜鸟来玩发表于 2015-2-8 10:08
12回合卒4进1，送黑的归西

确实如此，结局应该是双方不变作和。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-2-9 11:29
9樓和法應該正確

只是少了陷阱帽子假象 , 美中不足

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