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标题: 古谱中就有32子全的排局 [打印本页]

作者: dave7788 时间: 2012-6-9 14:22
标题: 古谱中就有32子全的排局
[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]5263695939482533604716348626660658724250404120702889093783432303[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]最早的全子排局[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_open]A06 兵底炮局[/DhtmlXQ_open] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]6050415016102002332140305250585063423031101131323433[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment13]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_1]524250414241403041403031403031306342303142233130231130313312[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_1][DhtmlXQ_comment1_19]红胜（原谱着法）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_19][DhtmlXQ_comment0]《韬略元机》卷三第24局“门列五戎”，32子全的排局，可能是最早的满子排局。《渊深海阔》也载有此局，局名易为“三十二天”，图着相同。||着法红先胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: dave7788 时间: 2012-6-9 14:37
[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]6663655949392523264642810170401051728252413202123162226929583845[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]欢聚一堂白宏宽拟局（红先胜）[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_open]A06 兵底炮局[/DhtmlXQ_open] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]42624535634435454452455552445545443245356242354542224535324435454452455522425545427245555244554544324535724235454212453532443545445245551242554542824555524455454432453582423545420245353244354544634535024235454272455563425545425445352342354542614535546241406243314143354121354321414351414626464050706050516656[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment77]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment77] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]现代的全子连照胜排局也与古谱一样，没有解决冗子问题。比如，2006年《象棋资料汇编》与《华工象棋网》联办的《满子对称排局赛》，要求连照胜，参赛的作品均有冗子，如图是其中的一局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: dave7788 时间: 2012-6-9 14:52
[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]2655695747372974233814664525044358596452324124273568843928676563[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title] [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_author]yanyun[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]yanyun排局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_group]YANYUN[/DhtmlXQ_group] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]43333231232131302120303155436442383541323332314132424142204052414041424174534140536140414322413122343141615341515332244226566555565584545554514134534151536151411444426454514142515042415040[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]满子局用于图案局则相对比较合理，因为字图局对冗子不太限制。如图造型是周平先生所作，中华苏维埃共和国临时中央大礼堂的中图。我拟着时感到红兵的位置较难处理，最后没有解决好，所以着法质量和长度都是一般化。||着法红先胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: dave7788 时间: 2012-6-9 14:55
楼上，棋图中的黑7路炮移到红边兵的位置，着法质量和长度则大有改观！可惜，有一个红兵无法摆放。

作者: dave7788 时间: 2012-6-9 15:11
[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]6755655749372535274843741473134178386052423220581808886626466323[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]变脸白宏宽拟局[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_open]A06 兵底炮局[/DhtmlXQ_open] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]43534636554336464324463624453646456646563543564643244656244556464533465653435646432346563345564645534656234356464363465653455646452646366645364645644636634336464353463664433646433546366547364635234241676141406160404147652042606141405343405023425241616050514263515260625251626151526151[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment71]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment71] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_46_1]4656264556464564463635433646432246366445364645334656254756462230424127214140335240302120[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_46_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_67]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_67] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]如图也是参加《满子对称排局赛》的作品，本来不是想做成图案局的，贴出后再看各子的组成，尤其是两匹红马，好像脸谱。权作图案局处理吧！顺便说一句，以着法为主宰自然或刻意形成的字图局效果会相当好。||着法红先胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: dave7788 时间: 2012-6-9 17:41
[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]2716999949999914239905999999999967749952324199766399859999995838[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]接楼上说[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_author]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_remark]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_group]散局[/DhtmlXQ_group] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]23223231222131302120303127213132212232312021313022324132212030312030313014223031221031300500[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]如图是《湖涯集》中的“八卦图”，我看是根据《韬略元机》卷三第37局“杀伐用张”刻意制作的图案排局。||着法红先胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment0][DhtmlXQ_comment17]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17][DhtmlXQ_comment23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23] [/DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]1299475957486904104300999999996199992452314102764529549999999966[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]091220[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2009-12-26 23:14:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2009-12-26 23:14:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]《韬略元机》“杀伐用张”[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_author]孙达军[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_remark]孙达军[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_result]红先胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]排局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_group]1997年前排局[/DhtmlXQ_group] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]10113130123241321110303104123141104041401220[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]着法红先胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment0][DhtmlXQ_comment3]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment3][DhtmlXQ_comment11]红胜（原谱着法）[/DhtmlXQ_comment11] [/DhtmlXQ]

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