排局杂谈

喜上眉梢 · 发表于 2012-9-8 00:48:39

本帖最后由喜上眉梢于 2012-9-10 01:47 编辑

“彩凤来仪”不是我（沈通声）的作品
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]这是载于《象棋马炮兵攻杀技巧》的“彩凤来仪”。||当初崔鸿传先生寄此棋图和着法让我看看，我建议将黑1路卒横移至2路，并拟着法回寄崔先生，崔先生仍采用原稿，却不慎将棋局误置于我的名下。||又，崔先生在该书中把我称作排局家，是好意，但不符合实际情况，希望大家不要当真。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0][DhtmlXQ_comment33]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment33]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-3-24 11:36:00

克隆局克隆局克隆局克隆局克隆局克隆局

好好玩好好玩好好玩好好玩好好玩好好玩

聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-3-24 11:31:45

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-3-24 11:29:25

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-3-24 11:26:19

克隆局來也

呵呵呵呵呵呵

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-3-22 17:58:24

謝先生說自創 ?
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1]解将还杀，好棋！\[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3]缚住黑车，并伏有沉车杀棋，且看黑方有何解救妙着。\[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8]在弃一卒，局势转危为安。\[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_34]黑胜。\[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_36]黑胜。\[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_36]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_34]黑胜。\[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_34]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment14_10]黑胜。\[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_6]黑胜。\[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_6]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-3-22 08:43:55

老鸽子发表于 2021-3-22 06:37
仅这一局“短棹轻舟”，就把人的脑子都弄大了。在下顺便查了一下同类局，仅古谱中居然就有十局：渊谱4局 ...

非常感謝鴿兄

我也自信認為9路底卒是到目前為止排局界改得最佳的一局
呵呵呵呵呵呵

呃
話又多了

聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-3-22 08:12:15

已編輯把80 81 50至60樓之間的圖都貼上我的名字了

呵呵呵呵呵

聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-3-22 07:34:13

早年我的做局改局都沒有貼上自己的名字

現在學乖了
不只一人編的書收錄我的局卻完全不提我名字只說收集於網絡云云
而且還有我的得意之作被人後來撞局(姑且相信他不是故意抄襲)而編者卻用他的名字

所以歡迎大家要收藏轉貼或編書收錄我的局時還請幫我貼上名字
謝謝

我等一下就去編輯把81樓與60樓貼上我的名字

聨吟客 · 发表于 2021-3-22 07:19:27

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2021-3-22 08:15 编辑

又看到我的改局了

60樓與81樓我自己很滿意

雖然單獨看起來不敢說多好
但與他人改局相較
自信比其他人改得都好

大家要以局型可塑性還有細心互相比較來看待眾多改局之高下是吧

感謝鴿先生

嘻

老鸽子 · 发表于 2021-3-22 07:13:37

喜上眉梢发表于 2012-9-27 23:57
“喝断坝桥”是黑胜局

这是手抄本《江湖秘谱》，1959年瞿问秋、杨明忠《民间象棋排局选》里的“抛砖引玉”，以及1991年周孟芳、朱鹤洲《象棋排局欣赏》之“当阳退敌”，“喝断坝桥”只是加了只边卒。由此看来，加这只边卒是多余的。

老鸽子 · 发表于 2021-3-22 06:37:11

本帖最后由老鸽子于 2021-3-22 06:52 编辑

喜上眉梢发表于 2012-12-10 01:57
“短棹轻舟”新编着法

仅这一局“短棹轻舟”，就把人的脑子都弄大了。在下顺便查了一下同类局，仅古谱中居然就有十局：渊谱4局，适谱、竹谱各两局，韬谱、百谱各一局，现代改编者也很多。昨晚看了一夜，现已分不清东南西北，更不用谈什么着法了。凭感觉，陆曙光和陈明仁改的版本好(后者指九路卒进一版本)。

喜上眉梢 · 发表于 2016-10-27 01:00:47

27楼第10回合黑车5平7是劣着，改走卒7平8可胜。以后有空再整理一下此类着法。

喜上眉梢 · 发表于 2015-10-7 03:04:05

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红先和

喜上眉梢 · 发表于 2015-10-3 03:20:19

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综合一下（仍感力不从心）

一杯红酒 · 发表于 2015-9-29 18:19:35

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[DhtmlXQ_comment22]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]这样红可以胜到！||原谱招法尚需斟酌[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]黑违规红胜，黑似乎不能变！[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_17]||红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_17]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-9-29 14:43:40

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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_17]||红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_17]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]喜上眉梢提供[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]這樣,同原走法15回合[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-9-29 13:32:31

貼圖便於討論

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_10_2]38285352313046363040493948385251[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_10_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_17]||红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_17]
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一杯红酒 · 发表于 2015-9-29 12:17:12

喜上眉梢发表于 2015-9-29 02:36
红先胜

11、黑炮5平3？改为炮5平4！

沉默 · 发表于 2015-9-24 16:57:49

第一局，加个红士，黑卒在中路刚过河，能和棋吗？

喜上眉梢 · 发表于 2015-5-14 02:54:13

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[DhtmlXQ_comment49]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]必然。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_1_31_2]47655818414518194948685848381916[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_31_2][DhtmlXQ_comment2_38]结果一样。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_38]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_43_3]37385616876916183837181937381969[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_43_3][DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]
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喝断坝桥修正局

聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-10-4 18:39:15

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-10-4 18:05:08

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2021-3-22 07:41 编辑

但不知紅有無別的和法?希望是紅別無選擇才好

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[DhtmlXQ_comment41]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_43]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_43]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_43]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_43]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_47]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_51]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_51]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_58]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_48]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_50]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_37]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_37]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]謀和要著[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_57]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_57]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-10-3 20:31:51

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2021-3-22 07:38 编辑

這個改局比較維持原局形,而且也不像單純刪卒或添相那麼乏味,是否既保有趣味且又能和呢?

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sdndsx · 发表于 2014-10-3 18:53:53

本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2014-10-4 05:41 编辑

喜上眉梢发表于 2014-10-1 17:34
这样黑胜

这个胜法很简洁明了！证明我发现的的车3平6也是黑胜的结论是对的。谢谢您！

喜上眉梢 · 发表于 2014-10-1 17:34:44

这样黑胜
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sdndsx · 发表于 2014-10-1 17:01:43

本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2014-10-1 17:12 编辑

yjr123 发表于 2014-10-1 12:08
你可以利用残局库自己整理着法，别人贴出着法你可能会认为红方走得不够顽强，你自己查阅残局库就不会有 ...

谢谢先生指教！

我起码落后时代10年，如假包换的网络菜鸟一个，啥都不懂（QQ、网游、手机、等等），再加上我的第一外语是日语（发表论文都得求人帮忙翻英文，特悲哀），上网非常吃力（因为多是英文，会贴个棋图就感到很惊喜）！如果要说会玩的，那就是办公三大软件——文字处理（我能制作排局棋图）、幻灯片（多媒体授课必备）、电子表格（可作统计分析），这也是逼着学的，因为本职工作离不开。请您多加谅解。

yjr123 · 发表于 2014-10-1 12:08:41

sdndsx 发表于 2014-10-1 09:09
谢谢先生！您的炮5平4很是新颖！为了便于研究敬请贴个图吧。谢谢！

你可以利用残局库自己整理着法，别人贴出着法你可能会认为红方走得不够顽强，你自己查阅残局库就不会有问题，使用方法我说得还不够清楚吗？就是你执红，残局库执黑（带*号是残局库推荐着法），看你能否守和。

sdndsx · 发表于 2014-10-1 09:09:59

本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2014-10-1 09:47 编辑

谢谢先生！您的炮5平4很是新颖！为了便于研究敬请贴个图吧。谢谢！

yjr123 · 发表于 2014-10-1 09:01:33

sdndsx 发表于 2014-10-1 08:22
为了便于研究红方的变着，就从下图开始吧！因为黑车没有立即车3平5简洁取胜，而是走了车3平6！百16认为黑胜 ...

现在根据公开的残局库，黑胜结论应该没有问题：

http://lpforth.forthfreak.net/cgi-bin/endgamebigtxt.cgi?5K34C4997r194p495R33k5

用法：轮到红方走棋，在着法列表中单击你认为能够守和的着法，轮到黑方走棋就选择有*号的着法，演变下去自然黑胜。

sdndsx · 发表于 2014-10-1 08:22:51

本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2014-10-1 08:28 编辑

为了便于研究红方的变着，就从下图开始吧！因为黑车没有立即车3平5简洁取胜，而是走了车3平6！百16认为黑胜，能否成立呢？请大家赐教！

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