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标题: 红能求和吗 [打印本页]

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-5-31 15:21
标题: 红能求和吗
红先 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999959990799534999999999999962999999409999999999993638999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2014-5-29 12:46:15[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2014-5-30 12:11:01[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]521[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_event]云涛[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_date]2014,05,30[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_hits]34[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_sortid]8096690[/DhtmlXQ_sortid] [DhtmlXQ_owner]yuntao[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_oldowner]yuntao[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: zhaodi 时间: 2014-6-1 00:20
这棋是黑胜吧？

作者: 杨启忠 时间: 2014-6-1 09:00
试演两路变化，供参考: [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]520,450[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_movelist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htmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_binit]nnnnnnnn59nn07nn5349nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn40nnnnnn62nnnnnn36nn38nn[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_comment18]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment18] [DhtmlXQ_comment74]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment74] [DhtmlXQ_comment88]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment88] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 杨启忠 时间: 2014-6-1 09:12
试演两路变化，供参考:[/quote] 再补充一个变化，棋友们看看成立否？ [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]520,450[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]53561IYG000062321PZJ000159587IXC000240308LZJ000349599KZI000432351JXH000507253SXO00063637BJXD000756501IXM000830318JXD000950571IYO001031418JZL001159499IZK00123839BJXD001349699KZG00143949BJZL001569679GXE00163738BJXD001767689GYC001835451JZL001957471IZK002045471LXF002125473OYK002249399KZM00023839BJXD002459587IXC002532351JXH002656501IXM002740418LXD002850561IYM00293637BJXD003056511IXK003141408LYD003251571IYM003335751JZR003457371IZM003575781RXH003658597IYC00373949BJZL003851561IYK003335751JZR004056461IZK004140308LZJ004246441KXE004375781RXH004458597IYC004578771RYD004659587IXC00473747BJZL004858597IYC00493949BJZL005059497IZK005177791RXF0052[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_binit]nnnnnnnn59nn07nn5349nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn40nnnnnn62nnnnnn36nn38nn[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_comment39]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment39] [DhtmlXQ_comment53]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment53] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-1 09:19
再补充一个变化，棋友们看看成立否？[/quote] 红车四退三，黑应以后卒进一呢

作者: 杨启忠 时间: 2014-6-1 09:29
红车四退三，黑应以后卒进一呢[/quote] [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]520,450[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_movelist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htmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_binit]nnnnnnnn59nn07nn5349nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn40nnnnnn62nnnnnn36nn38nn[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_comment15]和棋||[/DhtmlXQ_comment15] [DhtmlXQ_comment53]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment53] [DhtmlXQ_comment67]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment67] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 杨启忠 时间: 2014-6-1 09:45
求证一下，楼主与《棋艺》杂志上介绍的俞云涛先生是同一人吗？

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-1 09:55
求证一下，楼主与《棋艺》杂志上介绍的俞云涛先生是同一人吗？[/quote] 非也，我乃无名小辈

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-1 10:09
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作者: 杨启忠 时间: 2014-6-1 10:22
看来第四回合红应法不妥，应改走炮五平四

作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-6-1 10:29
黑方攻法很多，红方应付得当似乎可和：

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[DhtmlXQ_comment7]应走炮五平四[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment8][DhtmlXQ_comment14]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_4]5859374725473239[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_4][DhtmlXQ_comment4_12]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_12]
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作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-1 11:04
黑方攻法很多，红方应付得当似乎可和：[/quote] ====棋局开始 1.车四退三后卒进１ 2.车四退一后卒平3黑这样呢

作者: 杨启忠 时间: 2014-6-1 12:01
====棋局开始 1.车四退三后卒进１ [/quote] 云涛棋友具有较好的棋艺素养，我们都很幸运地生活在这个伟大的时代。加油吧，相信参天大树总有时。给出一个变化： [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]520,450[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_movelist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htmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_binit]nnnnnnnn59nn07nn5349nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn40nnnnnn62nnnnnn36nn38nn[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_comment21]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment21] [DhtmlXQ_comment33]和棋||[/DhtmlXQ_comment33] [DhtmlXQ_comment71]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment71] [DhtmlXQ_comment85]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment85] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-1 12:30

杨启忠发表于 2014-6-1 12:01
云涛棋友具有较好的棋艺素养，我们都很幸运地生活在这个伟大的时代。加油吧，相信参天大树总有时。

给 ...

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[DhtmlXQ_comment6]||红怎么应付呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
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作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-1 12:44

杨启忠发表于 2014-6-1 12:01
云涛棋友具有较好的棋艺素养，我们都很幸运地生活在这个伟大的时代。加油吧，相信参天大树总有时。

给 ...

黑这样应也复杂
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_21]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_15]和棋||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_18]黑胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_18]
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作者: 杨启忠 时间: 2014-6-1 13:43

yuntao云涛发表于 2014-6-1 12:44
黑这样应也复杂

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[DhtmlXQ_comment41]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45]红胜定||[/DhtmlXQ_comment45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49]还原了||[/DhtmlXQ_comment49]
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作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-1 13:57

杨启忠发表于 2014-6-1 13:43

1.车四退三    后卒进１
  2.车四退一    后卒平３
  3.相九进七    将５平４* 黑还是这样手段多些

作者: 杨启忠 时间: 2014-6-1 15:15
本帖最后由杨启忠于 2014-6-1 15:17 编辑

yuntao云涛发表于 2014-6-1 13:57
1.车四退三    后卒进１
  2.车四退一    后卒平３
  3.相九进七    将５平４* 黑还是这样手 ...

红续走帅四进一，一些变化参见16#

作者: zhaodi 时间: 2014-6-1 16:26
回复16楼

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作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-1 17:32

杨启忠发表于 2014-6-1 15:15
红续走帅四进一，一些变化参见16#

试举一例看看有没有问题
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-6-1 19:51

yuntao云涛发表于 2014-6-1 17:32
试举一例看看有没有问题

作者: zhaodi 时间: 2014-6-1 23:08
回复22楼
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[DhtmlXQ_comment11]黑方有手段吗[/DhtmlXQ_comment11]
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http://www.renrousousuo.com/Chin ... nnel=chineseChess24 在线研讨

作者: 杨启忠 时间: 2014-6-2 09:53

zhaodi 发表于 2014-6-1 16:26
回复16楼

回19#：嗯，平卒后红很难守和

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-2 10:26

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-1 19:51

作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-6-2 10:44
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_11]黑方有手段吗[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_11]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_6]59497278585938394946373825477877595877475535304035384746[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_6][DhtmlXQ_comment15]守住要点，看黑方有什么手段。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
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作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-2 11:46

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-2 10:44

作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-6-2 12:41
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8]||黑这样应呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
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作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-2 15:04

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-2 12:41

作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-6-2 16:26
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_11]黑方有手段吗[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_11]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8]||黑这样应呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-6-2 16:50
似乎守不住

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-2 18:15

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-2 16:26

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[DhtmlXQ_comment7] 似乎应该这样[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
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作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-2 18:47

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-2 16:50
似乎守不住

初遇此局时感觉黑方并无明显进攻手段，红方可简单防守；深入后发现黑方进攻手段极具隐秘机巧，红方防守方案也花样百出，黑方总能针锋相对克敌之，红方陷入防守迷阵中；话虽如此，我感觉红总有和的强烈感，也许天机显露时会发现红方防守别有洞天

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-3 08:46

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-2 16:50
似乎守不住

红这样防守呢？
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作者: 一卒擎天 时间: 2014-6-3 13:43

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-2 12:41

6回红不退车等一着可否？

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-3 14:21

一卒擎天发表于 2014-6-3 13:43
6回红不退车等一着可否？

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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_11]黑方有手段吗[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_11]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8]||黑这样应呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
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作者: 杨启忠 时间: 2014-6-3 16:28
这样呢？

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[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16]和棋||[/DhtmlXQ_comment16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]守住要塞！黑有何变化？||[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment62]
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-6-3 16:48

yuntao云涛发表于 2014-6-3 08:46
红这样防守呢？

殊途同归

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[DhtmlXQ_comment7] 似乎应该这样[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_11]黑方有手段吗[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_11]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3]||红这样防守呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D32492%26extra%3Dpage%253D1%26page%3D2[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-6-3 16:54

杨启忠发表于 2014-6-3 16:28
这样呢？

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[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_16]和棋||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_11]守住要塞！黑有何变化？||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10]
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作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-3 19:56
本帖最后由 yuntao云涛于 2014-6-3 19:58 编辑

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-3 16:48
殊途同归

黑接着这样呢，黑还是大有文章可以做
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3]||红这样防守呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]||||黑接着走呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D32492%26page%3D2[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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作者: 杨启忠 时间: 2014-6-4 09:47
这架三叉戟好厉害呀，动用了那么多的武器都没把它击落。弄门高射炮看看：

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[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33]和棋||[/DhtmlXQ_comment33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45]和棋||[/DhtmlXQ_comment45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61]红优||[/DhtmlXQ_comment61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment67]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]www.lshh.net[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-6-4 09:55

杨启忠发表于 2014-6-4 09:47
这架三叉戟好厉害呀，动用了那么多的武器都没把它击落。弄门高射炮看看：

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[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_33]和棋||[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_31]和棋||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_37]红优||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
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作者: 杨启忠 时间: 2014-6-4 10:27

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-4 09:55

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[DhtmlXQ_binit]53nnnnnn59nn07nnnn49nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn40nnnnnn62nnnnnn36nn38nn[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]先摆边炮呢||[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]www.lshh.net[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-6-4 10:36
现在还是37楼局面我没有发现胜法

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[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]先摆边炮呢||[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]535636375657372707254030490938480939624257553040[/DhtmlXQ_movelist][DhtmlXQ_comment12]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
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作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-4 10:41

杨启忠发表于 2014-6-4 10:27

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[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]先摆边炮呢||[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
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作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-4 10:55

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-4 10:36
现在还是37楼局面我没有发现胜法

看看行的通吗
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3]||红这样防守呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_2_15_1]42473848[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_15_1]
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作者: 杨启忠 时间: 2014-6-4 11:14

yuntao云涛发表于 2014-6-4 10:55
看看行的通吗

续走帅四平五

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-4 11:59

杨启忠发表于 2014-6-4 11:14
续走帅四平五

黑改成这样走
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[DhtmlXQ_sortid]8096690[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-6-4 12:44

yuntao云涛发表于 2014-6-4 11:59
黑改成这样走

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-4 13:29

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-4 12:44

作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-6-4 13:38

yuntao云涛发表于 2014-6-4 13:29

第7回合炮七平九

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-4 14:12

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-4 13:38
第7回合炮七平九

黑还是应以车4平2，下面变化我未参悟

作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-6-4 14:30

yuntao云涛发表于 2014-6-4 14:12
黑还是应以车4平2，下面变化我未参悟

炮九进一可能就和了

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-4 14:53

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-4 14:30
炮九进一可能就和了

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作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-6-4 15:36

yuntao云涛发表于 2014-6-4 14:53
言和还言之过早

看不出有什么手段，如车五平四。

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-4 17:44

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-4 15:36
看不出有什么手段，如车五平四。

作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-6-4 18:16

yuntao云涛发表于 2014-6-4 17:44

车五平四 = 车五退二？

作者: 高原红 时间: 2014-6-4 18:17
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作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-4 18:31

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-4 15:36
看不出有什么手段，如车五平四。

如车五平四，可能要和了

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-5 11:52

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-4 12:44

黑为什么不这样走？
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-6-5 15:19

yuntao云涛发表于 2014-6-5 11:52
黑为什么不这样走？

接走帅四平五有什么问题吗？

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-5 17:16

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-5 15:19
接走帅四平五有什么问题吗？

总感觉有问题，看看是不是出在这里
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-6-5 19:16

yuntao云涛发表于 2014-6-5 17:16
总感觉有问题，看看是不是出在这里

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-6 15:10

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-5 19:16

红第一着如相九进七会不会更简便？

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-8 10:23

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-5 19:16

作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-6-8 11:28

yuntao云涛发表于 2014-6-8 10:23

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-8 12:07

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-8 11:28

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作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-6-8 15:37

yuntao云涛发表于 2014-6-8 12:07

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作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-8 17:06

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-8 15:37

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作者: 杨启忠 时间: 2014-6-9 12:19
变化确实多，再补充几个，看看有何漏洞：

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[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31]和棋||[/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40]和棋||[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment146]和棋||[/DhtmlXQ_comment146]
[DhtmlXQ_comment154]和棋||[/DhtmlXQ_comment154]
[DhtmlXQ_comment216]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment216]
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-6-9 12:46
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[DhtmlXQ_comment12_31]和棋||[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_20]和棋||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_19]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_31]和棋||[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_29]和棋||[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_21]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_21]
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作者: zhaodi 时间: 2014-6-9 13:43
我还是认为黑胜定。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment7] 似乎应该这样[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_11]黑方有手段吗[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_11]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8]||黑这样应呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_15]守住要点，看黑方有什么手段。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_15]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment75]||黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment75]
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作者: zhaodi 时间: 2014-6-9 13:49
回复70楼
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_21]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_21]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment26]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment26]
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-6-9 13:54

zhaodi 发表于 2014-6-9 13:43
我还是认为黑胜定。

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第14回合见62楼第6回合

作者: zhaodi 时间: 2014-6-9 13:58

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-9 13:54
第14回合见62楼第6回合

62楼第7回合，黑直接卒2平1吃掉九路相，黑胜定吧？
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3]||红这样防守呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment14]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
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作者: 迟暮寒士 时间: 2014-6-9 14:04
本帖最后由迟暮寒士于 2014-6-9 14:06 编辑

这很像是某个江湖残局（可能是楼主正在创作的江湖残局）脱帽后形成的残局形式。在江湖残局中，最后走成车炮对车卒局面的很多，车炮都是艰难守和车卒。对此类残局，我是望而却步。

作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-6-9 14:43

zhaodi 发表于 2014-6-9 13:58
62楼第7回合，黑直接卒2平1吃掉九路相，黑胜定吧？

作者: zhaodi 时间: 2014-6-9 15:01

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-9 14:43

红改走炮进九，黑就不能吃相了。
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zhaodi 发表于 2014-6-9 15:01
红改走炮进九，黑就不能吃相了。

作者: zhaodi 时间: 2014-6-9 18:02
回78楼，第10回合黑应进车将军。
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作者: 杨启忠 时间: 2014-6-9 18:32

zhaodi 发表于 2014-6-9 18:02
回78楼，第10回合黑应进车将军。

续走车六平五，将5平4，车五进二和棋啊

作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-6-9 18:48

杨启忠发表于 2014-6-9 18:32
续走车六平五，将5平4，车五进二和棋啊

是黑胜，可查看残局库。

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-10 08:22
本帖最后由 yuntao云涛于 2014-6-10 08:23 编辑

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-9 18:48
是黑胜，可查看残局库。

定式和棋，怎么黑胜？

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作者: 杨启忠 时间: 2014-6-10 08:23

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-9 18:48
是黑胜，可查看残局库。

不知道残局库，能将黑胜的着法贴出吗？也让我们好好学习一下，好好补一下课。

作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-6-10 08:41

yuntao云涛发表于 2014-6-10 08:22
定式和棋，怎么黑胜？

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作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-6-10 08:46

杨启忠发表于 2014-6-10 08:23
不知道残局库，能将黑胜的着法贴出吗？也让我们好好学习一下，好好补一下课。

http://lpforth.forthfreak.net/xi ... 9992e691R2r42P65k30

轮黑走时点击带星着法，轮红走时点击你认为的正着。

作者: zhaodi 时间: 2014-6-10 09:37
再研究这个局面，黑有严厉的攻击吗？

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作者: 迟暮寒士 时间: 2014-6-10 09:47

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-10 08:46
http://lpforth.forthfreak.net/xiangqi-js/xiangqi.htm?3K599992e691R2r42P65k30

轮黑走时点击带星着 ...

如果红相和黑卒在同侧，中车边相，才是正和，此局面很接近正和形式。刚才读了一遍棋库着法，红方竟然没有机会走成和棋形式，只有一步之隔。

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-10 10:00

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-10 08:46
http://lpforth.forthfreak.net/xiangqi-js/xiangqi.htm?3K599992e691R2r42P65k30

轮黑走时点击带星着 ...

红相不能落底，是黑胜

作者: 杨启忠 时间: 2014-6-10 10:28

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-10 08:46
http://lpforth.forthfreak.net/xiangqi-js/xiangqi.htm?3K599992e691R2r42P65k30

轮黑走时点击带星着 ...

谢谢哈，总算学会了怎样查看残局库。之前没搞明白，看到那么多变化，头都大了。

作者: zhaodi 时间: 2014-6-10 15:53
作为排局作者，应熟练运用几个工具，
1、连照胜局，用周软验证；
2、非连照胜局，用主流象棋软件，如象棋巫师、阿童木、象棋名手、象棋旋风等软件验证。
3、实用残局，用PAI残局库验证；
4、江湖残局，用黄志琦残排局库验证。

作者: 杨启忠 时间: 2014-6-10 16:45

zhaodi 发表于 2014-6-10 15:53
作为排局作者，应熟练运用几个工具，
1、连照胜局，用周软验证；
2、非连照胜局，用主流象棋软件，如象棋 ...

嗯，是的，我本人应该多学学，否则就落伍啦。

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-10 19:44

zhaodi 发表于 2014-6-10 15:53
作为排局作者，应熟练运用几个工具，
1、连照胜局，用周软验证；
2、非连照胜局，用主流象棋软件，如象棋 ...

是啊，譬如残局库都是前人的经验总结出来的，有了这些工具就可以事半功倍了，

作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-6-10 20:14

zhaodi 发表于 2014-6-10 15:53
作为排局作者，应熟练运用几个工具，
1、连照胜局，用周软验证；
2、非连照胜局，用主流象棋软件，如象棋 ...

黄志琦残排局库只是收集汇总，没有验证功能。

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-12 09:44

zhaodi 发表于 2014-6-9 18:02
回78楼，第10回合黑应进车将军。

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-6-12 12:26

yjr123 发表于 2014-6-9 15:57

作者: 菜鸟来玩 时间: 2014-9-17 21:12

yuntao云涛发表于 2014-6-12 12:26

本局红求和唯一的招法就是退车抓后卒，并且车四路线，平车将军跟平炮都是必败的招。谢谢，这个局面残局库需要30万左右的电脑才能跑出来。谢谢

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2014-9-19 02:31

菜鸟来玩发表于 2014-9-17 21:12
本局红求和唯一的招法就是退车抓后卒，并且车四路线，平车将军跟平炮都是必败的招。谢谢，这个局面残局库 ...

此局当真有那么的复杂？比你给我的那些有几百亿个变化的残局还要复杂吗？难道真能难倒我们华工众多高手的人脑？

作者: zhaodi 时间: 2014-9-19 13:05
我认为此局黑胜。退车抓后卒的变化，前几页帖子中有，如有异议，请提出来，大家再讨论。

回复95楼。
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-9-19 13:48

yuntao云涛发表于 2014-9-19 02:31
此局当真有那么的复杂？比你给我的那些有几百亿个变化的残局还要复杂吗？难道真能难倒我们华工众多高手的 ...

依据菜鸟残局库的提示，本局按亚规应该是和棋，就是首着必须退车抓卒，其余都是黑胜。

能够取胜的残局软件可以跑出一条棋路，和棋就比较难了，软件跑出的棋路人可能无法理解（如卒怎么越跑越远离中心了）。

作者: 柒匹狼 时间: 2014-9-19 13:59
变化已经挖的差不多了亚规还要再研究下吗

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