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标题: 蝶舞东楼 [打印本页]
作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2014-8-24 13:04
标题: 蝶舞东楼
这个棋局比较简单，请棋友们随便玩玩： [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]520,450[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_binit]nn6907nn48nn2561nn2638628242023116nn205251nnnnnn65nn1557nnnn2703[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]蝶舞东楼[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-8-24 13:11
这么多子，我还以为连照胜，周软说NO 1.兵三平四 将６退１ 2.后马进四 卒３平４ 3.兵六进一 红胜定。
作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2014-8-24 13:49
这么多子，我还以为连照胜，周软说NO 1.兵三平四 将６退１ 2.后马进四 卒３平４ [/quote] 第2回合黑车7退4呢？
作者: τ.半路浅唱    时间: 2014-8-24 13:49
像中国地图。
作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-8-24 15:01
第2回合黑车7退4呢？[/quote] 兵五进一红胜定
作者: yjr123    时间: 2014-8-24 15:01
杨启忠 发表于 2014-8-24 13:49
第2回合黑车7退4呢？

兵五进一
作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2014-8-24 16:04
兵五进一[/quote] 黑接着走炮2退5呢？ [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9969079948992561992638628242023116992052519999996599155799992703[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]蝶舞东楼[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]625251506957656142411510[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-8-24 16:13
黑接着走炮2退5呢？[/quote] 兵五进一！ 炮七进六！ 兵六进一！ 兵六平五杀！
作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2014-8-24 16:28
嗯，谢谢！确实是速胜。稍晚再研究一下。
作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2014-8-24 16:43
调整一下7路黑车的位置，这样如何？ [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9969079948992561992638628242023116992052519999996699155799992703[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]蝶舞东楼[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: 邢春波    时间: 2014-8-24 17:52
调整一下7路黑车的位置，这样如何？[/quote] [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9969079948992561992638628242023116992052519999996699155799992703[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]蝶舞东楼[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]62525150695716263836151161532616[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1]6957664648584642267642437671515062521511[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: yjr123    时间: 2014-8-24 19:34
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[DhtmlXQ_title]蝶舞东楼[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment45]胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment45]
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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2014-8-25 09:00
[/quote] 第4回合黑改走车5退3呢？
作者: yjr123    时间: 2014-8-25 10:44
杨启忠 发表于 2014-8-25 09:00
第4回合黑改走车5退3呢？

接走炮六平八胜
作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2014-8-25 11:23
yjr123 发表于 2014-8-25 10:44
接走炮六平八胜

嗯，谢谢。还有疑问:第5回合黑改走将6平5，有如何呢？
作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-8-25 11:41
杨启忠 发表于 2014-8-25 11:23
嗯，谢谢。还有疑问:第5回合黑改走将6平5，有如何呢？

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[DhtmlXQ_title]蝶舞东楼[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_45]胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_45]
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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2014-8-25 13:01
柒匹狼 发表于 2014-8-25 11:41

好的，谢谢了！这个局可按12#余老师提供的着法取胜。再调整一下象位：


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[DhtmlXQ_title]蝶舞东楼1[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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作者: 邢春波    时间: 2014-8-26 20:23
杨启忠 发表于 2014-8-25 13:01
好的，谢谢了！这个局可按12#余老师提供的着法取胜。再调整一下象位：

移象后，红还能胜吗？
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[DhtmlXQ_title]蝶舞东楼1[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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作者: 邢春波    时间: 2014-8-26 20:44
改成这样
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[DhtmlXQ_title]蝶舞东楼1[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-8-26 21:16
邢春波 发表于 2014-8-26 20:44
改成这样

19楼跟10楼一样，只是删了几个冗子。
作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2014-8-28 09:27
邢春波 发表于 2014-8-26 20:23
移象后，红还能胜吗？

谢谢春波棋友的关心！这局系黑左象局，有较强的技巧性。上传着法，请指正:



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[DhtmlXQ_binit]nn6907nn48nn2561nn2638628242023116nn605251nnnnnn66nn1557nnnn2703[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]蝶舞东楼1[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局脱帽阶段红方连攻七招，造成激烈的矛盾冲突。黑方礼尚往来也连攻七招，化解了当前矛盾。末尾红凭借双相之力，强行断住黑车归路......||[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47]大巧不工，一心向道径向东。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55]蝶飞东楼，只为一曲霓裳舞。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment59]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment59]
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作者: yjr123    时间: 2014-8-28 09:53
杨启忠 发表于 2014-8-28 09:27
谢谢春波棋友的关心！这局系黑左象局，有较强的技巧性。上传着法，请指正:

[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]9969079948992561992638628242023116996052519999996699155799992703[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]蝶舞东楼1[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局脱帽阶段红方连攻七招，造成激烈的矛盾冲突。黑方礼尚往来也连攻七招，化解了当前矛盾。末尾红凭借双相之力，强行断住黑车归路......||[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]大巧不工，一心向道径向东。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_55]蝶飞东楼，只为一曲霓裳舞。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_59]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_59]
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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2014-8-28 13:15
yjr123 发表于 2014-8-28 09:53

初步看了一下，炮7退1之变应该是和棋：


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[DhtmlXQ_binit]nn6907nn48nn2561nn2638628242023116nn605251nnnnnn66nn1557nnnn2703[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]蝶舞东楼[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局脱帽阶段红方连攻七招，造成激烈的矛盾冲突。黑方礼尚往来也连攻七招，化解了当前矛盾。末尾红凭借双相之力，强行断住黑车归路......||[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment59]和棋||[/DhtmlXQ_comment59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73]大巧不工，一心向道径向东。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81]蝶飞东楼，只为一曲霓裳舞。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment81]
[DhtmlXQ_comment85]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment85]
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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2014-8-28 13:19
把一路卒移到3路，或许能维持原意：

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[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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作者: yjr123    时间: 2014-8-28 13:23
杨启忠 发表于 2014-8-28 13:15
初步看了一下，炮7退1之变应该是和棋：

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[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局脱帽阶段红方连攻七招，造成激烈的矛盾冲突。黑方礼尚往来也连攻七招，化解了当前矛盾。末尾红凭借双相之力，强行断住黑车归路......||[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_59]和棋||[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]大巧不工，一心向道径向东。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_55]蝶飞东楼，只为一曲霓裳舞。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_55]
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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2014-8-28 16:17
yjr123 发表于 2014-8-28 13:23

23回合红走软，应相一退三：


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作者: 邢春波    时间: 2014-8-28 19:47
杨启忠 发表于 2014-8-28 13:19
把一路卒移到3路，或许能维持原意：

红还是胜不了
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作者: 邢春波    时间: 2014-8-28 19:51
杨启忠 发表于 2014-8-28 09:27
谢谢春波棋友的关心！这局系黑左象局，有较强的技巧性。上传着法，请指正:

21楼即使删掉1路边卒红恐怕也难取胜。
作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2014-8-29 16:24
本帖最后由 杨启忠 于 2014-8-29 16:38 编辑
邢春波 发表于 2014-8-28 19:51
21楼即使删掉1路边卒红恐怕也难取胜。

21#红差了一步，只能走成和棋，删去1路边卒，红可胜（可形成单双步，红用底兵走闲）。兹将21#红九路边兵移到八路，刚好形成巧锁黑3卒之势，倒也给本局增加了一丝情趣。上传着法，看看有问题吗？


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作者: 邢春波    时间: 2014-8-29 17:55
杨启忠 发表于 2014-8-29 16:24
21#红差了一步，只能走成和棋，删去1路边卒，红可胜（可形成单双步，红用底兵走闲）。兹将21#红九路边兵移 ...

还是难胜
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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2014-8-30 14:57
邢春波 发表于 2014-8-29 17:55
还是难胜

嗯，谢谢！黑进卒红难胜。看来很难实现原构思了。
作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2014-8-30 15:46
看看这个呢？

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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2014-8-31 13:02
杨启忠 发表于 2014-8-30 15:46
看看这个呢？

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作者: 邢春波    时间: 2014-8-31 16:52
杨启忠 发表于 2014-8-31 13:02

可速胜
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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2014-8-31 18:52
邢春波 发表于 2014-8-31 16:52
可速胜

24回合黑也可用卒打将还是同步胜
作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2014-8-31 18:58
我对这个局还是不太满意：脱帽阶段攻守双方步数不相等，艺术性与趣味性都大打折扣，再给个方案：

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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2014-9-1 14:14
杨启忠 发表于 2014-8-31 18:58
我对这个局还是不太满意：脱帽阶段攻守双方步数不相等，艺术性与趣味性都大打折扣，再给个方案：

不知有没有速胜：

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作者: yjr123    时间: 2014-9-1 15:26
杨启忠 发表于 2014-9-1 14:14
不知有没有速胜：

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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2014-9-2 07:37
yjr123 发表于 2014-9-1 15:26

嗯，确实有速胜谢谢！

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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2014-9-3 07:52
这样呢？请大家看看有没有速胜


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作者: yjr123    时间: 2014-9-3 08:14
杨启忠 发表于 2014-9-3 07:52
这样呢？请大家看看有没有速胜

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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2014-9-3 20:54
yjr123 发表于 2014-9-3 08:14

真高啊！谢谢！
作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-9-3 21:13
这样可否？红方变着有复杂变化。
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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2014-9-4 07:43
本帖最后由 杨启忠 于 2014-11-11 21:40 编辑
象棋法官 发表于 2014-9-3 21:13
这样可否？红方变着有复杂变化。

谢谢法官棋友！29回合应兵二平三！我主要设想：1.脱帽阶段双方攻守步数相等。2.巧锁3卒。3.末尾红飞相断住黑车路而胜。请棋友们看看这样呢？


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