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标题: 老马识途 [打印本页]

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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-11 21:48
标题: 老马识途
很久以前的局了，今天在整理以前资料中翻出来的。 红方可否取胜，能否在23回合内让黑缴械投降。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]老马识途（红先胜）[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event]私人藏局[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_round]个人棋局[/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9913293949594766999999999999999999466030405082999999999999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [/DhtmlXQ]

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作者: 迟暮寒士    时间: 2014-10-15 00:20
据说双马对单马士象全，着法繁琐莫测，结果尚无定论，所以无人尝试回复着法。 此局黑方不是最佳阵容，楼主即以贴出此类残局，想必本局一定有了必胜的官着，建议棋友们应该试解一下。

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作者: 老实人张无忌    时间: 2014-10-15 02:39
最简单大致这样，黑应该有更强着法。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9913293949594766999999999999999999466030405082999999999999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]老马识途（红先胜）[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event]私人藏局[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_round]个人棋局[/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]6645466713214041213341313354678645668667394830414857678659483130668530405466403066748667856630404769403029473040698782647462415262546786544652414634866734556788667860425567[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]

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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-15 08:03
最简单大致这样，黑应该有更强着法。[/quote] 红方着法有误，黑方圭得很配合。

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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-15 09:52
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作者: zhaodi    时间: 2014-10-15 10:05
呵呵，我曾经做过一局这样的局。

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[DhtmlXQ_round]个人棋局[/DhtmlXQ_round]
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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-15 10:20
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作者: 菜鸟来玩    时间: 2014-10-15 10:25
第一步马八进七是正招

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作者: zhaodi    时间: 2014-10-15 10:27

象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-15 10:20

回复7楼，

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[DhtmlXQ_comment10]黑马逃出，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10]
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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-15 10:39
回复7楼，[/quote] 第三回合马六退七，黑马怎么跑？

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作者: 菜鸟来玩    时间: 2014-10-15 10:50
呵呵，我曾经做过一局这样的局。[/quote] 第五回合改马5进7，接下去红怎么走？

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作者: zhaodi    时间: 2014-10-15 11:04

象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-15 10:39
第三回合马六退七，黑马怎么跑？

回复10楼，第三回合 马六退七，黑马3退5，照样不能困住黑马。

回复11楼，第5回合怎么会出现马5进7的着法？主着法第5回合黑马在3路。

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作者: 菜鸟来玩    时间: 2014-10-15 11:12
一楼跟六楼不一样，看错了。不好意思，六楼是必胜的。

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作者: zhaodi    时间: 2014-10-15 11:17

菜鸟来玩 发表于 2014-10-15 11:12
一楼跟六楼不一样，看错了。不好意思，六楼是必胜的。

见9楼演变棋图。

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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-15 11:50
一楼跟六楼不一样，看错了。不好意思，六楼是必胜的。[/quote] 1楼也能胜，只不过多走几步。

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作者: 菜鸟来玩    时间: 2014-10-15 12:09

象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-15 11:50
1楼也能胜，只不过多走几步。

一楼软件解不出来，法官可以拟出招法吗？红马三进五，不走马5进7，改黑士6进5，红后续招法可以给出吗？

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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-15 12:26

zhaodi 发表于 2014-10-15 10:27
回复7楼，

居然贴错了

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_13]以帅当士[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_2]正着[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_6]红没有控制黑马的着法。和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_10]黑马逃出，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_4]劣败[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_21]捉死黑马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_21]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-15 12:28


初步解法如下，不知道哪里还有错误。


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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-15 12:34


其实这个局的启发受 象棋残局精粹--海南出版社--杜良一先生书中的 一局双马士相全巧胜单马士象全的打印错误局面引发的



此局面红七路相应该是三路底相才能和原谱着法吻合，放在七路的结果就是马5进7马四退三 马3进1 后红不能按原谱着法圈马只能改走马五退四进行调整

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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-15 13:18

柒匹狼 发表于 2014-10-15 12:28
初步解法如下，不知道哪里还有错误。

应该有速胜：
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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-15 13:22

象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-15 13:18
应该有速胜：

好像不止这一处

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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-15 13:27

象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-15 13:18
应该有速胜：

第9回合可以帅当士能更快些

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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-15 13:37

zhaodi 发表于 2014-10-15 10:05
呵呵，我曾经做过一局这样的局。

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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-15 13:47

柒匹狼 发表于 2014-10-15 13:37

23楼：
单士好像很难取胜。

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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-15 13:48

象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-15 13:47
23楼：
单士好像很难取胜。

这样不行的

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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-15 13:49

象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-15 13:47
23楼：
单士好像很难取胜。

18楼同样存在这样的问题 不行

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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-15 13:52
菜鸟说强软能解6楼，看看怎么走。

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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-15 13:54

柒匹狼 发表于 2014-10-15 13:49
18楼同样存在这样的问题 不行

18楼哪一步有这个问题？

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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-15 13:54

象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-15 13:52
菜鸟说强软能解6楼，看看怎么走。

软件解这样的局 没多大把握 给的着法大多对不上思路 除非他有残局库

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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-15 13:55

象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-15 13:54
18楼哪一步有这个问题？

马3进1变上 还是捉不住

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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-15 13:57

柒匹狼 发表于 2014-10-15 13:55
马3进1变上 还是捉不住

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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-15 14:08

象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-15 13:57

我说的是 赵老师的 单士象局 不是18楼 就是17楼 这里的楼层分不清

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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-15 18:09

柒匹狼 发表于 2014-10-15 14:08
我说的是 赵老师的 单士象局 不是18楼 就是17楼 这里的楼层分不清

赵老师这局或许能破掉士，双马例胜马双象。

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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-15 18:15
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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-15 18:51

象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-15 18:15

这局面如果吃不到马没多大把握，等看看菜鸟有没有库吧。 双马对马单缺（象或士）不一定能拿下来

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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-15 18:57

象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-15 18:15

我18楼所拟着法有一处大错，你们都没注意。

还有赵老师这局，如果把士调下来我初步研究了一下可以圈马。而且没一个沉子

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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-15 18:58
应酬先出去了，你们玩着先。

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作者: zhaodi    时间: 2014-10-15 19:10

柒匹狼 发表于 2014-10-15 18:57
我18楼所拟着法有一处大错，你们都没注意。

还有赵老师这局，如果把士调下来我初步研究了一下可以圈 ...

36楼是和棋，以前研究过。因为和棋着法不好整理。

还有 那个不念“沉子”念“冗（rong)子”

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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-15 19:18
标题: 应该可以，赵老师的棋局就难办了。
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作者: zhaodi    时间: 2014-10-15 19:25

象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-15 19:18

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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-15 19:35

zhaodi 发表于 2014-10-15 19:25

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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-15 21:03
研究了个大概，都打上了看看哪里还有疏忽。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment9]不要急于圈马，以帅当士调整好再动。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_13]回到主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_12]没有士在四路，黑马可跳回中路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]回到主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_9]以下接主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_8]这步棋和马3进2是一个效果[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_8]
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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-15 21:20

柒匹狼 发表于 2014-10-15 21:03
研究了个大概，都打上了看看哪里还有疏忽。

第9回合应以马5进7为主着，比将5进1多走2回合。

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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-15 21:22

象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-15 21:20
第9回合应以马5进7为主着，比将5进1多走2回合。

我没全打完看不到哪路变化最长，只看到能圈到马就没往下打。偷懒了

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作者: 菜鸟来玩    时间: 2014-10-15 21:48

柒匹狼 发表于 2014-10-15 21:22
我没全打完看不到哪路变化最长，只看到能圈到马就没往下打。偷懒了

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如何证实某一个局面和棋，我还没有找到方法。

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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-15 21:52

菜鸟来玩 发表于 2014-10-15 21:48
如何证实某一个局面和棋，我还没有找到方法。

原来你有非士象全残局库啊

士象全的就没音了

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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-15 21:55

菜鸟来玩 发表于 2014-10-15 21:48
如何证实某一个局面和棋，我还没有找到方法。

你这是软件分析的还是 残局库？ 第二个可以圈马的，难到不成立？

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作者: 菜鸟来玩    时间: 2014-10-15 21:55
士象全，我软件算不到杀。抱歉

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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-15 21:58

菜鸟来玩 发表于 2014-10-15 21:48
如何证实某一个局面和棋，我还没有找到方法。

这样红要怎么杀

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_85]黑方被将死,红方胜！||||红方分数：19999||黑方用时：     5.430秒||红方用时：     6.129秒||双方实际花费时间：    11.559秒[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_85]
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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-15 21:58

菜鸟来玩 发表于 2014-10-15 21:55
士象全，我软件算不到杀。抱歉

第二个是和棋？

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作者: 菜鸟来玩    时间: 2014-10-15 22:01
残局库是和棋，无法用文字解答。

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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-15 22:02

菜鸟来玩 发表于 2014-10-15 22:01
残局库是和棋，无法用文字解答。

我42楼是圈马的解法 你照着跟残局库走走看看 我错在哪里 谢谢\(^o^)/~

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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-15 22:08

菜鸟来玩 发表于 2014-10-15 21:55
士象全，我软件算不到杀。抱歉

你指出这路着法哪一步不对就行了。
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作者: 菜鸟来玩    时间: 2014-10-15 22:08
你加我QQ7677133，黑好几步应错了，所以红可以胜。

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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-15 23:15
黑马已陷入绝境，这样不能速胜？
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作者: 菜鸟来玩    时间: 2014-10-16 00:06

象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-15 22:08
你指出这路着法哪一步不对就行了。

第10回合黑应走马7进6，不应走马7进9.

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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-16 10:13

菜鸟来玩 发表于 2014-10-16 00:06
第10回合黑应走马7进6，不应走马7进9.

还是不对，那一回合马7进6？红方能马六退七堵截，还是跑不掉。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]回到主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]
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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-16 10:15
这样10回合才能马7进6，根本走不通。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_13]回到主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_12]没有士在四路，黑马可跳回中路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]回到主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]
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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-16 10:21

菜鸟来玩 发表于 2014-10-16 00:06
第10回合黑应走马7进6，不应走马7进9.

你在放烟幕弹吧？被你搞迷糊了。
应该是10回合马7进9，12回合再马7进6，这样就捉不住了。

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作者: 菜鸟来玩    时间: 2014-10-16 10:28

象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-16 10:21
你在放烟幕弹吧？被你搞迷糊了。
应该是10回合马7进9，12回合再马7进6，这样就捉不住了。

你说的很对。哈哈

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作者: 菜鸟来玩    时间: 2014-10-16 10:29

象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-16 10:21
你在放烟幕弹吧？被你搞迷糊了。
应该是10回合马7进9，12回合再马7进6，这样就捉不住了。

你说的很对，你搞点排局来玩玩呢

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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-16 10:53


搞点排局也太简单，难不倒你的软件。
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作者: 菜鸟来玩    时间: 2014-10-16 11:31


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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-16 11:45

菜鸟来玩 发表于 2014-10-16 11:31

你这是用库解的不算 从来

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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-16 11:47

象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-15 23:15
黑马已陷入绝境，这样不能速胜？

这样黑马还是能出来，赵老师这局吃马不易。要想完全解开，没有残局库不易拿捏得准。草鸟给的只是一路变化，黑方还有很多应着可变。红不怎么好处理，一般软件解的也不一定准。

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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-16 11:48

菜鸟来玩 发表于 2014-10-16 11:31

炮在二路，我晕怎么摆到一路了？
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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-16 11:50
这个局面要想圈到马，单士相是很难的。单缺相可以

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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-16 11:51

象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-16 11:48
炮在二路，我晕怎么摆到一路了？

飘移了

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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-16 11:52

柒匹狼 发表于 2014-10-16 11:47
这样黑马还是能出来，赵老师这局吃马不易。要想完全解开，没有残局库不易拿捏得准。草鸟给的只是一路变化 ...

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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-16 11:54

象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-16 11:52

21回合先将6退1呢

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作者: 菜鸟来玩    时间: 2014-10-16 11:57
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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-16 12:02

菜鸟来玩 发表于 2014-10-16 11:57

这绝对不是残局库走的，怎么能轻易让帅占六路？

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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-16 12:03

象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-16 11:52

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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-16 12:04

柒匹狼 发表于 2014-10-16 11:54
21回合先将6退1呢

马不就捉死了？

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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-16 12:06

象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-16 12:02
这绝对不是残局库走的，怎么能轻易让帅占六路？

它占六路的目的就是既可以消灭卒又可以使相的防卒过河不受牵制

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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-16 12:08

柒匹狼 发表于 2014-10-16 12:06
它占六路的目的就是既可以消灭卒又可以使相的防卒过河不受牵制

关键是黑方不同意

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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-16 12:08

菜鸟来玩 发表于 2014-10-16 11:57

这炮兵禁象的技巧很不错

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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-16 12:12

菜鸟来玩 发表于 2014-10-16 11:57

如果黑这样走，红方要怎么完成吃卒禁象的任务。
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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-16 12:13

象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-16 12:04
马不就捉死了？

捉不死的可以轮回转世

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作者: 菜鸟来玩    时间: 2014-10-16 12:13
这样红走炮二平九，岂不是更快

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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-16 12:16

菜鸟来玩 发表于 2014-10-16 12:13
这样红走炮二平九，岂不是更快

看花了打着象呢

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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-16 12:18

象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-16 12:02
这绝对不是残局库走的，怎么能轻易让帅占六路？

我想起了类似的棋局强软已经解过，怎么又犯这种错误？

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作者: 菜鸟来玩    时间: 2014-10-16 12:18
七匹狼，搞点残局来玩玩

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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-16 12:23

菜鸟来玩 发表于 2014-10-16 11:57

看来强软能解开，但一时半会也找不到正着。
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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-16 12:29

菜鸟来玩 发表于 2014-10-16 12:18
七匹狼，搞点残局来玩玩

我这一边都是找他们这些排局大师的个别棋局玩的，不会排局怎么搞。去PAI库弄等于白费，你这库比PAI库大的多的多。PAI库有的你都有了，这要琢磨残局库没有的又要一般软件使不上劲的残局不是太好弄。

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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-16 12:33

菜鸟来玩 发表于 2014-10-16 12:18
七匹狼，搞点残局来玩玩

以后真希望这些排局大师们能搞一些稀奇古怪的没有残局库的，又让软件不好解的残局玩才有意思。

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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-16 12:35

菜鸟来玩 发表于 2014-10-16 12:18
七匹狼，搞点残局来玩玩

对了请你帮我看看67楼红单缺相你有库没，结果如何。

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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-16 12:44

柒匹狼 发表于 2014-10-16 12:35
对了请你帮我看看67楼红单缺相你有库没，结果如何。

67楼中路敞开着呢，怎么赢？

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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-16 12:50

象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-16 12:44
67楼中路敞开着呢，怎么赢？

跟士象全一样圈马啊

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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-16 13:26

柒匹狼 发表于 2014-10-16 12:50
跟士象全一样圈马啊

少个象不一样了，马3进1那一变。

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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-16 13:46

象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-16 13:26
少个象不一样了，马3进1那一变。

应该可以如果不可以，那红右边没相黑马5进7同样拿不下来。你指的多那变

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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-16 13:51

象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-16 13:26
少个象不一样了，马3进1那一变。

看到了确实如此，黑可提前马3进1 红没有相就圈不住了 看来没有中士的情况下 士象全少一个也拿不下来了 而且相还要在7路 在3路都不行

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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-16 17:03

菜鸟来玩 发表于 2014-10-16 10:29
你说的很对，你搞点排局来玩玩呢

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作者: 菜鸟来玩    时间: 2014-10-16 18:09

象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-16 17:03

这也叫残局

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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-16 18:31

菜鸟来玩 发表于 2014-10-16 18:09
这也叫残局

残局最准确的定义：
双方从对弈初始局面开始，走了若干步，对弈未结束，此时的局面就叫残局。残局两个要素：
1、不是初始局面
2、对弈未结束
例如第一步炮二平五，此时形成的局面就叫残局了。

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作者: 菜鸟来玩    时间: 2014-10-16 19:33

象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-16 18:31
残局最准确的定义：
双方从对弈初始局面开始，走了若干步，对弈未结束，此时的局面就叫残局。残局两个要 ...

这么讲，开局就一步，中局也消失啦，剩下的都是残局

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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-16 19:39

菜鸟来玩 发表于 2014-10-16 19:33
这么讲，开局就一步，中局也消失啦，剩下的都是残局

开个玩笑，笑够了该解局了。

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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-16 19:44

菜鸟来玩 发表于 2014-10-16 19:33
这么讲，开局就一步，中局也消失啦，剩下的都是残局

那我和你下一盘，你可以用软件我就徒手跟你下。不过有个前提我要把老将揣兜里，你要杀的我一个子都不剩下才行。

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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-16 21:08

菜鸟来玩 发表于 2014-10-16 18:09
这也叫残局

这个比较难，去掉士象强软应该能解出来。
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作者: 菜鸟来玩    时间: 2014-10-16 21:12

象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-16 21:08
这个比较难，去掉士象强软应该能解出来。

棋子太多，就懒得分析了，因为超过5个大子的残局，还没有绝对正确的答案。

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