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标题: 将得好瘾改局是胜是和难以确定 [打印本页]

作者: 沉默 时间: 2014-11-29 16:04
标题: 将得好瘾改局是胜是和难以确定
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作者: zhang48129 时间: 2014-11-29 17:02
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作者: zhang48129 时间: 2014-11-29 17:16
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作者: 沉默 时间: 2014-11-29 19:18
[/quote] 第5回合卒8平7才是正着

作者: 邢春波 时间: 2014-11-29 20:56
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作者: zhaodi 时间: 2014-11-29 22:28
马炮底兵对炮卒卒，黑卒逼近九宫，是黑胜局。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]陈松顺先生编著的的《江湖棋局搜秘》第19局，有一则常见于马路棋摊上的俗名为“将得好有瘾”的江湖散局，陈先生将流行的和局着法诠订成黑胜。今将原局红方九.0位红兵移至八.0位，成为本局图势，就可弈成和局，且原局精彩着法都可保留。本局与上局“马飞蝴蝶”图势有相似之处，但着法要深奥得多[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14]诠正着法20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]？软和（书中原谱）[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_13]新增变招20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]以下同主着法，可以弈和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]演变下去对黑方不利[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]
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作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2014-11-29 22:37
这一局网上讨论过多次，我认为黑胜结论正确。

作者: 沉默 时间: 2014-12-1 02:28
马炮底兵对炮卒卒，黑卒逼近九宫，是黑胜局。[/quote] [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]0506999939999999706099109999999999999941409999999942993748779999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]010局将得好有隐红先和[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]60684150705040500502424106277767020848380838413168696757394931386959574727153808153637385956[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_3_14_1]504027066757062557582544313844563888563740303949[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_14_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_20_2]5848445240415233414238483747332547482544[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_20_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_3]6888675727153138888757583949384815364842878850401020404188783747493941317875474875354282365558595534823235325949[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_4]684867573949575848453738455531371020505120305848495937362746383946545141554541315433394945493639[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_5]4131273548383949314108016768014168584140505135435152433152514050[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_5] [DhtmlXQ_move_5_16_6]41406858374749596768355468585958384858594043010343410343475754625040434140301020[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_16_6] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_20_7]38483543404243625040014140301020[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_20_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_18_8]6768355468585462[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_18_8] [DhtmlXQ_move_5_16_9]414501413747414547484548384849486768[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_16_9] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_10]0232483839493747324267684241685841475859[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_10] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_11]483839493747024250516861474827487767614167574245[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_11] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_12]77780208413127354838[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_12] [DhtmlXQ_move_12_10_13]4838083841316865[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_10_13] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_14]020141460131483839493747[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_15]053548383949374735454748[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_15] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_16]05354232705040415051414035324849[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_16] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]陈松顺先生编著的的《江湖棋局搜秘》第19局，有一则常见于马路棋摊上的俗名为“将得好有瘾”的江湖散局，陈先生将流行的和局着法诠订成黑胜。今将原局红方九.0位红兵移至八.0位，成为本局图势，就可弈成和局，且原局精彩着法都可保留。本局与上局“马飞蝴蝶”图势有相似之处，但着法要深奥得多[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]诠正着法20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]？软和（书中原谱）[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29] [DhtmlXQ_comment13]新增变招20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment13] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_70] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_19] [DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]以下同主着法，可以弈和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_12] [DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]演变下去对黑方不利[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_13] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_17]365547571020080555365747595605454959454656514757515550512030465659495747495956663617384817366646364447574456574756754642756342626344473755523738443662665257664657564642302042222010222936483848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_17] [DhtmlXQ_comment23]这样黑棋如何胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment23] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 象棋法官 时间: 2014-12-1 12:47
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作者: 沉默 时间: 2014-12-1 17:40
[/quote] [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]0506999939999999706099109999999999999941409999999942993748779999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]010局将得好有隐红先和[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]606841507050405005024241062777670208483808384131686967573949313869595747271538081536373859565051365551415646[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_3_14_1]504027066757062557582544313844563888563740303949[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_14_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_20_2]5848445240415233414238483747332547482544[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_20_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_3]6888675727153138888757583949384815364842878850401020404188783747493941317875474875354282365558595534823235325949[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_4]684867573949575848453738455531371020505120305848495937362746383946545141554541315433394945493639[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_5]4131273548383949314108016768014168584140505135435152433152514050[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_5] [DhtmlXQ_move_5_16_6]41406858374749596768355468585958384858594043010343410343475754625040434140301020[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_16_6] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_20_7]38483543404243625040014140301020[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_20_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_18_8]6768355468585462[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_18_8] [DhtmlXQ_move_5_16_9]414501413747414547484548384849486768[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_16_9] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_10]0232483839493747324267684241685841475859[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_10] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_11]483839493747024250516861474827487767614167574245[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_11] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_12]77780208413127354838[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_12] [DhtmlXQ_move_12_10_13]4838083841316865[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_10_13] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_14]020141460131483839493747[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_15]053548383949374735454748[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_15] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_16]05354232705040415051414035324849[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_16] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]陈松顺先生编著的的《江湖棋局搜秘》第19局，有一则常见于马路棋摊上的俗名为“将得好有瘾”的江湖散局，陈先生将流行的和局着法诠订成黑胜。今将原局红方九.0位红兵移至八.0位，成为本局图势，就可弈成和局，且原局精彩着法都可保留。本局与上局“马飞蝴蝶”图势有相似之处，但着法要深奥得多[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]诠正着法20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]？软和（书中原谱）[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29] [DhtmlXQ_comment13]新增变招20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment13] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_70] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_19] [DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]以下同主着法，可以弈和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_12] [DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]演变下去对黑方不利[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_13] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_17]365547571020080555365747595605454959454656514757515550512030465659495747495956663617384817366646364447574456574756754642756342626344473755523738443662665257664657564642302042222010222936483848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_17] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_18]553608024959025259495242495941513617384817364737361742021020020956545152203009191736373836483848545719113020115157545154203052513040545240305150302050402010525010005000[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_18][DhtmlXQ_comment27]？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment27] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 象棋法官 时间: 2014-12-1 17:44
[/quote] [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]0506999939999999706099109999999999999941409999999942993748779999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]010局将得好有隐红先和[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]606841507050405005024241062777670208483808384131686967573949313869595747271538081536373859565051365551415646474849594131[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_3_14_1]504027066757062557582544313844563888563740303949[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_14_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_20_2]5848445240415233414238483747332547482544[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_20_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_3]6888675727153138888757583949384815364842878850401020404188783747493941317875474875354282365558595534823235325949[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_4]684867573949575848453738455531371020505120305848495937362746383946545141554541315433394945493639[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_5]4131273548383949314108016768014168584140505135435152433152514050[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_5] [DhtmlXQ_move_5_16_6]41406858374749596768355468585958384858594043010343410343475754625040434140301020[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_16_6] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_20_7]38483543404243625040014140301020[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_20_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_18_8]6768355468585462[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_18_8] [DhtmlXQ_move_5_16_9]414501413747414547484548384849486768[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_16_9] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_10]0232483839493747324267684241685841475859[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_10] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_11]483839493747024250516861474827487767614167574245[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_11] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_12]77780208413127354838[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_12] [DhtmlXQ_move_12_10_13]4838083841316865[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_10_13] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_14]020141460131483839493747[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_15]053548383949374735454748[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_15] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_16]05354232705040415051414035324849[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_16] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]陈松顺先生编著的的《江湖棋局搜秘》第19局，有一则常见于马路棋摊上的俗名为“将得好有瘾”的江湖散局，陈先生将流行的和局着法诠订成黑胜。今将原局红方九.0位红兵移至八.0位，成为本局图势，就可弈成和局，且原局精彩着法都可保留。本局与上局“马飞蝴蝶”图势有相似之处，但着法要深奥得多[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]诠正着法20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]？软和（书中原谱）[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29] [DhtmlXQ_comment13]新增变招20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment13] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_70] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_19] [DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]以下同主着法，可以弈和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_12] [DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]演变下去对黑方不利[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_13] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_17]365547571020080555365747595605454959454656514757515550512030465659495747495956663617384817366646364447574456574756754642756342626344473755523738443662665257664657564642302042222010222936483848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_17] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_18]553608024959025259495242495941513617384817364737361742021020020956545152203009191736373836483848545719113020115157545154203052513040545240305150302050402010525010005000[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment27]？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment27] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_19]4151[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_19] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 沉默 时间: 2014-12-1 18:52
[/quote] [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]0506999939999999706099109999999999999941409999999942993748779999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]010局将得好有隐红先和[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]60684150705040500502424106277767020848380838413168696757394931386959574727153808153637383655475710200805203005455979[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_3_14_1]504027066757062557582544313844563888563740303949[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_14_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_20_2]5848445240415233414238483747332547482544[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_20_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_3]6888675727153138888757583949384815364842878850401020404188783747493941317875474875354282365558595534823235325949[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_4]684867573949575848453738455531371020505120305848495937362746383946545141554541315433394945493639[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_5]4131273548383949314108016768014168584140505135435152433152514050[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_5] [DhtmlXQ_move_5_16_6]41406858374749596768355468585958384858594043010343410343475754625040434140301020[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_16_6] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_20_7]38483543404243625040014140301020[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_20_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_18_8]6768355468585462[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_18_8] [DhtmlXQ_move_5_16_9]414501413747414547484548384849486768[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_16_9] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_10]0232483839493747324267684241685841475859[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_10] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_11]483839493747024250516861474827487767614167574245[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_11] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_12]77780208413127354838[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_12] [DhtmlXQ_move_12_10_13]4838083841316865[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_10_13] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_14]020141460131483839493747[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_15]053548383949374735454748[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_15] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_16]05354232705040415051414035324849[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_16] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]陈松顺先生编著的的《江湖棋局搜秘》第19局，有一则常见于马路棋摊上的俗名为“将得好有瘾”的江湖散局，陈先生将流行的和局着法诠订成黑胜。今将原局红方九.0位红兵移至八.0位，成为本局图势，就可弈成和局，且原局精彩着法都可保留。本局与上局“马飞蝴蝶”图势有相似之处，但着法要深奥得多[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]诠正着法20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]？软和（书中原谱）[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29] [DhtmlXQ_comment13]新增变招20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment13] [DhtmlXQ_comment20_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_70] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_19] [DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]以下同主着法，可以弈和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_12] [DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]演变下去对黑方不利[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_13] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_17]59565051365551415646474849594131[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_17] [DhtmlXQ_move_17_27_18]553608024959025259495242495941513617384817364737361742021020020956545152203009191736373836483848545719113020115157545154203052513040545240305150302050402010525010005000[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_27_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_27]？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_27] [DhtmlXQ_move_17_28_19]4151[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_28_19] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_20]55365747595605454959454656514757515550512030465659495747495956663617384817366646364447574456574756754642756342626344473755523738443662665257664657564642302042222010222936483848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_20][DhtmlXQ_comment29]？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment29] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 象棋法官 时间: 2014-12-1 19:42

沉默发表于 2014-12-1 18:52

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[DhtmlXQ_title]010局将得好有隐红先和[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]陈松顺先生编著的的《江湖棋局搜秘》第19局，有一则常见于马路棋摊上的俗名为“将得好有瘾”的江湖散局，陈先生将流行的和局着法诠订成黑胜。今将原局红方九.0位红兵移至八.0位，成为本局图势，就可弈成和局，且原局精彩着法都可保留。本局与上局“马飞蝴蝶”图势有相似之处，但着法要深奥得多[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]诠正着法20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]？软和（书中原谱）[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]新增变招20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]以下同主着法，可以弈和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]演变下去对黑方不利[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment29]？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]陈松顺先生编著的的《江湖棋局搜秘》第19局，有一则常见于马路棋摊上的俗名为“将得好有瘾”的江湖散局，陈先生将流行的和局着法诠订成黑胜。今将原局红方九.0位红兵移至八.0位，成为本局图势，就可弈成和局，且原局精彩着法都可保留。本局与上局“马飞蝴蝶”图势有相似之处，但着法要深奥得多[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]诠正着法20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]？软和（书中原谱）[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]新增变招20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]以下同主着法，可以弈和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]演变下去对黑方不利[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_27]？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_27]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment29]？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
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作者: 沉默 时间: 2014-12-4 01:39
和棋还是黑胜? 谁能给个结论

作者: 象棋法官 时间: 2014-12-4 12:50

沉默发表于 2014-12-2 16:59

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]陈松顺先生编著的的《江湖棋局搜秘》第19局，有一则常见于马路棋摊上的俗名为“将得好有瘾”的江湖散局，陈先生将流行的和局着法诠订成黑胜。今将原局红方九.0位红兵移至八.0位，成为本局图势，就可弈成和局，且原局精彩着法都可保留。本局与上局“马飞蝴蝶”图势有相似之处，但着法要深奥得多[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]诠正着法20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]？软和（书中原谱）[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]新增变招20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]以下同主着法，可以弈和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]演变下去对黑方不利[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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作者: 沉默 时间: 2014-12-4 17:15

象棋法官发表于 2014-12-4 12:50

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]陈松顺先生编著的的《江湖棋局搜秘》第19局，有一则常见于马路棋摊上的俗名为“将得好有瘾”的江湖散局，陈先生将流行的和局着法诠订成黑胜。今将原局红方九.0位红兵移至八.0位，成为本局图势，就可弈成和局，且原局精彩着法都可保留。本局与上局“马飞蝴蝶”图势有相似之处，但着法要深奥得多[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]诠正着法20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]？软和（书中原谱）[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]新增变招20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]以下同主着法，可以弈和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]演变下去对黑方不利[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_27]？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_27]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment20_29]？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_29]
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作者: zhaodi 时间: 2014-12-4 23:39

沉默发表于 2014-12-4 17:15

还是黑胜。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]陈松顺先生编著的的《江湖棋局搜秘》第19局，有一则常见于马路棋摊上的俗名为“将得好有瘾”的江湖散局，陈先生将流行的和局着法诠订成黑胜。今将原局红方九.0位红兵移至八.0位，成为本局图势，就可弈成和局，且原局精彩着法都可保留。本局与上局“马飞蝴蝶”图势有相似之处，但着法要深奥得多[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]诠正着法20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]？软和（书中原谱）[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]新增变招20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]以下同主着法，可以弈和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]演变下去对黑方不利[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_27]？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_27]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment37]后面变化还很复杂[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment64]
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作者: 象棋法官 时间: 2014-12-5 13:31
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]陈松顺先生编著的的《江湖棋局搜秘》第19局，有一则常见于马路棋摊上的俗名为“将得好有瘾”的江湖散局，陈先生将流行的和局着法诠订成黑胜。今将原局红方九.0位红兵移至八.0位，成为本局图势，就可弈成和局，且原局精彩着法都可保留。本局与上局“马飞蝴蝶”图势有相似之处，但着法要深奥得多[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]诠正着法20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]？软和（书中原谱）[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]新增变招20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]以下同主着法，可以弈和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]演变下去对黑方不利[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_27]？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_27]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment23_37]后面变化还很复杂[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_37]
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作者: 沉默 时间: 2014-12-5 15:44

象棋法官发表于 2014-12-5 13:31

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]陈松顺先生编著的的《江湖棋局搜秘》第19局，有一则常见于马路棋摊上的俗名为“将得好有瘾”的江湖散局，陈先生将流行的和局着法诠订成黑胜。今将原局红方九.0位红兵移至八.0位，成为本局图势，就可弈成和局，且原局精彩着法都可保留。本局与上局“马飞蝴蝶”图势有相似之处，但着法要深奥得多[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]诠正着法20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]？软和（书中原谱）[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]新增变招20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]以下同主着法，可以弈和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]演变下去对黑方不利[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_27]？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_27]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment20_29]？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_29]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment23_37]后面变化还很复杂[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_37]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_33_24]20304546595846423020421220301218585947485657181936483848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_33_24][DhtmlXQ_comment39]估计也是黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
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作者: 象棋法官 时间: 2014-12-5 16:04

沉默发表于 2014-12-5 15:44

对，接走将5平4还是黑胜。

作者: 沉默 时间: 2014-12-5 16:22
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这样可以和棋了吧

作者: 邢春波 时间: 2014-12-5 16:40

沉默发表于 2014-12-5 16:22
这样可以和棋了吧

这个改局早就有了

作者: 象棋法官 时间: 2014-12-5 17:19
本帖最后由象棋法官于 2014-12-5 17:20 编辑

22楼这是凌云子的改局，结果正和，最早出现在智弈象棋网上。

作者: 靓妹 时间: 2014-12-5 20:53
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[DhtmlXQ_comment30_19]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_19]
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作者: ★星海★ 时间: 2014-12-5 21:06

靓妹发表于 2014-12-5 20:53

这是我在黄志琦残局库里的走法，以前认为这样能和，其实还是黑胜。

作者: 沉默 时间: 2014-12-6 16:32

象棋法官发表于 2014-12-5 17:19
22楼这是凌云子的改局，结果正和，最早出现在智弈象棋网上。

结果正和？发来看看

作者: 象棋法官 时间: 2014-12-6 20:06
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作者: 沉默 时间: 2014-12-7 00:24

象棋法官发表于 2014-12-6 20:06

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]陈松顺先生编著的的《江湖棋局搜秘》第19局，有一则常见于马路棋摊上的俗名为“将得好有瘾”的江湖散局，陈先生将流行的和局着法诠订成黑胜。今将原局红方九.0位红兵移至八.0位，成为本局图势，就可弈成和局，且原局精彩着法都可保留。本局与上局“马飞蝴蝶”图势有相似之处，但着法要深奥得多[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]新增变招20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]这步好象没人研究。下步直接打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]防止红方换卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]黑能否胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_28]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]这样黑棋如何胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_14]？软和（书中原谱）[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2021-11-17 08:57
我认为可和

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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]诠正着法20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]？软和（书中原谱）[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]新增变招20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]以下同主着法，可以弈和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]演变下去对黑方不利[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]
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作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2021-11-17 11:38
本帖最后由 chouzhouyu 于 2021-11-17 11:40 编辑

红炮进三上面贴子中研究为黑胜应该没问题。第15回合黑将平4。
我现在改走炮进四，发现上面贴子中没有人走该步。下步直接要换黑卒了。

作者: yjr123 时间: 2021-11-17 12:08

chouzhouyu 发表于 2021-11-17 11:38
红炮进三上面贴子中研究为黑胜应该没问题。第15回合黑将平4。
我现在改走炮进四，发现上面贴子中没有人走 ...

看不懂，15回合黑将平4，红吃卒胜。

作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2021-11-17 15:52
是16回合将平4。一样带杀

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2021-11-17 16:35
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作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2021-11-17 20:22
看错了，以为黑炮还在红二路线。红方没威胁到黑卒，黑炮没必要退到红三路线。红炮进三给黑方各种利用，防守起来困难，不如红炮直接进四。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment23]这步好象没人研究。下步直接打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment41]黑能否胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_28]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]这样有人研究为黑棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]黑可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_28]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_27]？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_30]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_47]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_42]黑可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_14]？软和（书中原谱）[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_13]书中的招法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_14]这样可黑胜。略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_14]
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作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2021-11-17 23:22
本帖最后由 chouzhouyu 于 2021-11-17 23:26 编辑

炮四进四和进三一样的，黑炮可以不退一可直接退6或7.这样的话还是黑胜。光想到红炮要打卒黑炮退一去守，

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2021-11-18 01:48
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作者: 剑影¤独步 时间: 2021-11-18 06:56

聨吟客发表于 2021-11-18 02:14
還有這樣

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作者: yjr123 时间: 2021-11-18 08:46

chouzhouyu 发表于 2021-11-17 20:22
看错了，以为黑炮还在红二路线。红方没威胁到黑卒，黑炮没必要退到红三路线。红炮进三给黑方各种利用，防守 ...

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[DhtmlXQ_comment16_24]防止红方换卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_24]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]这样有人研究为黑棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]黑可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_28]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_27]？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_30]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_30]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment9_42]黑可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_14]？软和（书中原谱）[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_13]书中的招法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_14]这样可黑胜。略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_30]同12回合炮四进三[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_23]这样如何？[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]这样[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2021-11-19 09:18
楼上还是黑胜，这样看看。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment13]新增变招20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]至此为止是以往人研究的黑胜着法，下步有炮四进三等着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]这步好象没人研究。下步直接打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_24]防止红方换卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_41]黑能否胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_28]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]这样有人研究为黑棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_40]黑可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_28]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_27]？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_30]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_47]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_42]黑可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_14]？软和（书中原谱）[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_13]书中的招法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_14]这样可黑胜。略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_30]同12回合炮四进三[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]这样如何？[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_13]这样[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_13]
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