华工象棋论坛
标题:
原来有没有讨论过?该局是胜?还是和棋?
[打印本页]
作者:
高原红
时间:
2014-12-12 00:22
标题:
原来有没有讨论过?该局是胜?还是和棋?
原谱到此结朿 即为红胜! [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999479939999999991363519999999948992050303299999999994383186899[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-7-26 1:49:01[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2007-7-26 1:49:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]《适情雅趣》第345局 爱身待时局[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]0[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_class]象棋谱大全-古谱残局[/DhtmlXQ_class] [DhtmlXQ_event]适情雅趣[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_round]卷一[/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_date]0000-00-00[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_hits]12613[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_sortid]428950[/DhtmlXQ_sortid] [DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_oldowner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]6360303160663130515030316646[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者:
高原红
时间:
2014-12-12 00:44
这样走不知正确否? [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999479939999999991363519999999948992050303299999999994383186899[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-7-26 1:49:01[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2007-7-26 1:49:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]《适情雅趣》第345局 爱身待时局[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]0[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_class]象棋谱大全-古谱残局[/DhtmlXQ_class] [DhtmlXQ_event]适情雅趣[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_round]卷一[/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_date]0000-00-00[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_hits]12613[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_sortid]428950[/DhtmlXQ_sortid] [DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_oldowner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]636030316066313051503031664648494649838449438485131620023949314149598586164641314333314133368687363787883738887846360220384820423638181948421929424429394765787938484131443431416547[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者:
象棋法官
时间:
2014-12-12 13:39
应是红胜,步数比较多。
作者:
高原红
时间:
2014-12-12 18:46
标题:
可和!
[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999479939999999991363519999999948992050303299999999994383186899[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-7-26 1:49:01[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2007-7-26 1:49:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]《适情雅趣》第345局 爱身待时局[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]0[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_class]象棋谱大全-古谱残局[/DhtmlXQ_class] [DhtmlXQ_event]适情雅趣[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_round]卷一[/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_date]0000-00-00[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_hits]12613[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_sortid]428950[/DhtmlXQ_sortid] [DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_oldowner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]636030316066313051503031664648494649838449433141131641511686687850408485865678684030200239495141567602244959857576464131463631414333182836866878860628183338182838484131595878790636324130402838484979695857415247693848495931415952756552566555564641406947405036265051[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者:
高原红
时间:
2014-12-12 18:51
标题:
这样也和
[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999479939999999991363519999999948992050303299999999994383186899[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-7-26 1:49:01[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2007-7-26 1:49:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]《适情雅趣》第345局 爱身待时局[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]0[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_class]象棋谱大全-古谱残局[/DhtmlXQ_class] [DhtmlXQ_event]适情雅趣[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_round]卷一[/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_date]0000-00-00[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_hits]12613[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_sortid]428950[/DhtmlXQ_sortid] [DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_oldowner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]63603031606631305150303166464849464983844943314113164151168668785040848586567868403020023949514156760224495985757646413146363141433318283686687886062818333818283848413159587879484975760609283809797677490977787989786858573848090868583040[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_45_1]0636324130402838484979695857415247693848495931415952756552566555564641406947405036265051[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_45_1] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者:
邢春波
时间:
2014-12-12 21:22
可以取胜 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999479939999999991363519999999948992050303299999999994383186899[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-7-26 1:49:01[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2007-7-26 1:49:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]《适情雅趣》第345局 爱身待时局[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]0[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_class]象棋谱大全-古谱残局[/DhtmlXQ_class] [DhtmlXQ_event]适情雅趣[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_round]卷一[/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_date]0000-00-00[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_hits]12613[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_sortid]428950[/DhtmlXQ_sortid] [DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_oldowner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]636030316065313051503031654548493949324145151828138368785040434447254152830328184948314140302042030918280949413130403141494442244050414215167868164642324686324248476878864642324626244226363231474878684443281843333141363868693837180833536959535808185818[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者:
高原红
时间:
2014-12-12 22:21
谢谢 春波参与讨论!!
作者:
邢春波
时间:
2014-12-14 19:44
谢谢 春波参与讨论!![/quote] 王老师客气了
作者:
zhaodi
时间:
2014-12-14 20:40
红必胜的。我解的一路胜法。
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999479939999999991363519999999948992050303299999999994383186899[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver]
[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-7-26 1:49:01[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_editdate]2007-7-26 1:49:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]《适情雅趣》第345局 爱身待时局[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_length]0[/DhtmlXQ_length]
[DhtmlXQ_class]象棋谱大全-古谱残局[/DhtmlXQ_class]
[DhtmlXQ_event]适情雅趣[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_round]卷一[/DhtmlXQ_round]
[DhtmlXQ_date]0000-00-00[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_hits]12613[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
[DhtmlXQ_sortid]428950[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]63603031606631305150303166464849394932414636415013836878363818283848200248432818434602248323244247254264463664423638313049487879484979693839697939791808494808187978181948491909787909197919[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment47]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D33474%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]
作者:
迟暮寒士
时间:
2014-12-14 21:40
这局棋前面红方间照杀法很精彩,原作者的用意只在于此,认为已是绝杀,着法到此结束。出乎作者意料,黑方也有弃车解决眼前危机的办法。只是以后的着法不是作者有意为之,所以显得松散,结果确实是红胜,但红方以强子强势对付黑方小卒,不论是和棋还是赢棋,红方都不光彩。
王方权老师擅长利用现有的素材改进或创造新的题目,建议王方权老师不妨在此局之上,创造两则新的棋局,一局是间照胜局,比原局着法有所提高,一局是和局,红方艰难守和比较好。
我想,不用我说,王老师心中早就有谱了吧。
介绍一则类似的间照胜排局,曾载于《羊城晚报》。
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_title]B-经典绝杀(9)【梁维杰拟局】[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place]
[DhtmlXQ_round][/DhtmlXQ_round]
[DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red]
[DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam]
[DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating]
[DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time]
[DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black]
[DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam]
[DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating]
[DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark][/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author][/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]9936999937999973996783345199999929594230324164823968692838434884[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]36244224343332317352644267646964524443443332413283432919514130414333[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_1]2818643441323343324143334132332332418333[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]【也是红胜】[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule]
[DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype]
[DhtmlXQ_owner][/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype]
[/DhtmlXQ]
作者:
桑莫喜
时间:
2014-12-15 17:45
5楼续走红可胜. [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999479939999999991363519999999948992050303299999999994383186899[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-7-26 1:49:01[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2007-7-26 1:49:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]《适情雅趣》第345局 爱身待时局[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]0[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_class]象棋谱大全-古谱残局[/DhtmlXQ_class] [DhtmlXQ_event]适情雅趣[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_round]卷一[/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_date]0000-00-00[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_hits]12613[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_sortid]428950[/DhtmlXQ_sortid] [DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_oldowner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]6360303160663130515030316646484946498384494331411316415116866878504084858656786840302002394951415676022449598575764641314636314143331828368668788606281833381828384841315958787948497576060928380979767749097778798978685857384809086858304031414050413147253241504041328929244229263141405041310803324150404152034342644353314140506482537341512656514125474142568652415040423247653242866641324050324150604130607030416686586886896878658778888909483809088889080989790949413049463041467679897678384878884130888289798272798973438979727448385758423274783839430332420309394909793041706041327868424168694142794932414948415269494232585732315747313049395241483830408765[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_45_1]0636324130402838484979695857415247693848495931415952756552566555564641406947405036265051[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_45_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_108_2]4130898278687372424170606858605058687270685870305868300068580008414282834241834341425747424143424151426251506263505163535150080650510656[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_108_2] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者:
高原红
时间:
2014-12-15 20:49
5楼续走红可胜.[/quote] 谢谢莫先生参与讨论!zhaodi 先生的胜法简洁!
作者:
桑莫喜
时间:
2014-12-15 21:09
高原红 发表于 2014-12-15 20:49
谢谢莫先生参与讨论!zhaodi 先生的胜法简洁!
王先生,我是对4搂5楼着法的探讨,按4搂着法也可胜. [DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999479939999999991363519999999948992050303299999999994383186899[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver]
[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-7-26 1:49:01[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_editdate]2007-7-26 1:49:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]《适情雅趣》第345局 爱身待时局[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_length]0[/DhtmlXQ_length]
[DhtmlXQ_class]象棋谱大全-古谱残局[/DhtmlXQ_class]
[DhtmlXQ_event]适情雅趣[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_round]卷一[/DhtmlXQ_round]
[DhtmlXQ_date]0000-00-00[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_hits]12613[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
[DhtmlXQ_sortid]428950[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]63603031606631305150303166464849464983844943314113164151168668785040848586567868403020023949514156760224495985757646413146363141433318283686687886062818333818283848413159587879063632413040283848497969585741524769384849593141405075653646656657474838473738486947485859096656464556574725584809075758072724024543586827266858262841425040424140304151282651414313414213115241302041502010504111134152260652410608415225075241080241501020586807256858131842411810415137475041101648381656584802045150203041300454[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_57_1]5952756552566555564641406947405036265051[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_57_1]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D33474%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]
欢迎光临 华工象棋论坛 (http://hgchess.com/bbs/)
Powered by Discuz! X3.2