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作者: sdndsx 时间: 2015-2-10 18:56
标题: 【转载】一个没有答案的棋局
最近学习一本由正规出版社出版的棋书，每一章都有习题，最后给出习题答案。我按图索骥发现：答案错位，查遍所有习题答案，没有找到如下这局棋的答案。现将这局棋贴出来，请朋友们解拆，谢谢！ [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9915999948999902999999999999999999999999329999992499999999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title][/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_open]A00 [/DhtmlXQ_open] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-2-10 19:14
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作者: zhang48129 时间: 2015-2-10 21:32
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作者: sdndsx 时间: 2015-2-11 08:06
试，回复贴；1 楼[/quote] 谢谢！补充一个变化： [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9915999948999902999999999999999924999999329999999999999999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2015-2-10 21:31:04[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2015-2-10 21:31:04[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]bhws.pgn[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]21[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_date]2015-02-10[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_red]4--709[/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_redname]4--709[/DhtmlXQ_redname] [DhtmlXQ_black]4--709[/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_blackname]4--709[/DhtmlXQ_blackname] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_hits]1[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_sortid]9035510[/DhtmlXQ_sortid] [DhtmlXQ_owner]日升张谦[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_oldowner]日升张谦[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]152324284849281802211810234432314452313021423031423431323453[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: yjr123 时间: 2015-2-11 08:56
正解是：

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作者: sdndsx 时间: 2015-2-11 09:07
正解是：[/quote]

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-2-11 10:30
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-2-11 10:45
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2015-2-11 14:27
呵呵，大概是已经上瘾了，这个局也要改：

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-2-11 22:11
9樓的意思是有速勝法要改 ?或把和局改為勝局?

作者: yjr123 时间: 2015-2-12 08:16

聨吟客发表于 2015-2-11 22:11
9樓的意思是有速勝法要改 ?或把和局改為勝局?

1楼本来就是一个简单红胜局，改了以后仍然是一个简单红胜局，而且保留的胜法又不精彩，实际上到12回合已经结束，但却有7个回合是黑车的无效将军步，没有什么意义。

我提供的这个局虽然简单，但却是双马胜单车中算是着法最长的。

作者: sdndsx 时间: 2015-2-12 09:51
正解是：[/quote] 谢谢！先生提供的着法我认为是最简洁的！这局棋是李中健、孙志伟两位老师的大作，由辽宁科技出版社出版，我购买的可能是第一版的，没有找到答案，所以贴了出来。单车对双马的实用排局（我个人以为不是实战残局），其结论有胜、有和、有负，再加上这局棋是进马好，还是退马好？我想知道正解答案。就是这样。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-2-12 15:33
9樓簡單嗎?我覺得好難喔

,我再想想............

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-2-13 03:52
9樓我解不開,另排一局簡單局自娛

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作者: yjr123 时间: 2015-2-13 06:59

聨吟客发表于 2015-2-12 15:33
9樓簡單嗎?我覺得好難喔,我再想想............

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-2-13 09:55
唉呀,我沒看岀車不能吃中馬 ,真是罪過 , 善哉 !

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-2-13 11:00
14樓也要改

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