彩雲半天

聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-7-6 17:18:42

竹香齋的各種現代詮注譜中, 只有白宏寬與周平老師的版本把彩雲半天局詮為黑勝

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-7-6 17:27:18

此局尚未有修改局吧,我嘗試改動邊兵位置但可能紅優,所以改添邊相看看,好像還不錯 , 大家也研究看看

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豫东棋人 · 发表于 2015-7-6 17:52:55

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★星海★ · 发表于 2015-7-6 17:57:07

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-7-6 17:57:16

感謝成兄提供

聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-7-6 18:04:19

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-7-6 18:09:32

喔,不對,6樓可下象

不好意思嗯ㄝ呵呵呵呵呵

聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-7-6 18:13:11

我有兩種百局譜詮注本, 百局譜稱減灶誘敵是吧,晚點去找看看有沒有更多修改局

聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-7-6 18:25:50

太久沒翻百局譜,那兩本怎麼說的我都忘記了,也要看找不找得到,房里雜物太多還需碰運氣

聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-7-6 18:49:40

百局譜稱行兵減灶,我說的那兩種版本　都認為和局

4樓改局較洗鍊,感謝曾兄提供

桑莫喜 · 发表于 2015-7-6 21:01:36

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-7-6 21:42:35

嗯,淵深海闊象棋譜朱鶴洲詮注譜也認為和局

聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-7-6 22:04:17

我的改局應該也不錯

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桑莫喜 · 发表于 2015-10-24 22:34:25

聨吟客发表于 2015-7-6 22:04
我的改局應該也不錯
　

陈先生,4搂黑第8回合可否改走车6平8.

桑莫喜 · 发表于 2015-10-25 12:11:19

聨吟客发表于 2015-7-6 22:04
我的改局應該也不錯
　

陈先生,13楼改局的确不错,黑8回合可否改走砲4平1.

聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-10-26 00:08:03

桑莫喜发表于 2015-10-25 12:11
陈先生,13楼改局的确不错,黑8回合可否改走砲4平1.

紅接走兵九平八,黑好像也無便宜可佔

聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-10-26 01:14:59

回覆14樓,4樓不是我的改局,星海兄有說明出處,桑兄提出的變化好像很複雜, 一時難以完全弄清楚,不知大家友何高見呢?

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-10-26 01:41:46

這樣可以否?

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[DhtmlXQ_title]江湖排局集成 130局彩云天半变改局红先和[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_owner]桑莫喜[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]桑莫喜[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_15]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_56]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_68]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_92]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_92]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_97]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_97]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_7_21_8]38377874514174343747343747483787817187777181778781718777[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_21_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_34]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_31]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_31]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_7]78733938737838397874514174343949344449594484817184745958[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_21_9]3949484634337434[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_21_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16]桑莫喜提出, 變化似乎很複雜[/DhtmlXQ_comment16]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_10]7363787434337434394934444939443439494845[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_11]3332494832384849303181803837805037874948877748587776585779695758426458483132484776464757324261714649516142416151414051614946615146495161[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_12]3222[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_13]3433494833638180636848476867474867878050[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_28]結果如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_25] 結果如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_25]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_14]8171488849594348[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_45_15]80508777[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_45_15]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_16]4845514133326160328281718272717072706070[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_16][DhtmlXQ_comment16_45] 和[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_45]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_17]44144959141181801161515043408040614159497989493989793231[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_17]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_18]481851411811616011816050[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_18]
[DhtmlXQ_move_18_26_20]1810323133314131304061511011514140503130[/DhtmlXQ_move_18_26_20][DhtmlXQ_move_18_26_19]33328180[/DhtmlXQ_move_18_26_19]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_38_21]3242485830405141424181414041[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_38_21][DhtmlXQ_comment21_44]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_44]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_49_22]6171[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_49_22]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-10-26 02:07:30

可能黑勝?

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[DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver]
[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2013-10-2 19:03:01[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_editdate]2013-10-2 19:03:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]江湖排局集成 130局彩云天半变改局红先和[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_6_47_2]7161796958576959575859495857767951414241[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_47_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_57_3]7181070661510601[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_57_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_65_4]5161787661517671[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_65_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_89_5]7161111757581777[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_89_5]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
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[DhtmlXQ_sortid]6761860[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]桑莫喜[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]桑莫喜[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_15]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_56]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_68]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_92]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_92]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_97]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_97]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_7_21_8]38377874514174343747343747483787817187777181778781718777[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_21_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_34]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_31]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_31]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_7]78733938737838397874514174343949344449594484817184745958[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_21_9]3949484634337434[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_21_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16]桑莫喜提出, 變化似乎很複雜[/DhtmlXQ_comment16]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_10]7363787434337434394934334948336381806368484768674748678780508777[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_11]48443242334342324448493943333949334349394333394933324948323848473031818038374748378751413132804087676151[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_25_12]3222[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_25_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_13]34444939443439494845[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_28]結果如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_25] 結果如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_25]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_29_14]8171488849594348[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_29_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_45_15]80508777[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_45_15]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_36_16]4845514133326160328281718272717072706070[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_36_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_45] 和[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_45]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_28_17]44144959141181801161515043408040614159497989493989793231[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_28_17]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_18]481851411811616011816050[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_18]
[DhtmlXQ_move_18_26_20]1810323133314131304061511011514140503130[/DhtmlXQ_move_18_26_20]
[DhtmlXQ_move_18_26_19]33328180[/DhtmlXQ_move_18_26_19]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_38_21]3242485830405141424181414041[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_38_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_44]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_44]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_49_22]6171[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_49_22]
[DhtmlXQ_move_24_46_23]324261714649516142416151414051614946615146495161[/DhtmlXQ_move_24_46_23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_41_24]584831324847764647574649[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_41_24]
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桑莫喜 · 发表于 2015-10-27 21:01:01

聨吟客发表于 2015-10-26 00:08
紅接走兵九平八,黑好像也無便宜可佔

请陈先生给出着法.

yjr123 · 发表于 2015-10-28 09:19:03

聨吟客发表于 2015-7-6 22:04
我的改局應該也不錯
　

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[DhtmlXQ_title]彩雲半天  添邊相修改局 (陳明仁)   [/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]84446042313040304434304065873738343888386151484685814030514146363949388881884224[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_99]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_99]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1]4858858140302434585439385434384834444858303181804474716174708081707858597877818077575949578780403130404187884111303111107969105088854948854548584549072542640111313211213242254749476171474951614232585749415758412158572141575841406151404951613231718131418171494661514140718146765857767851616482615169595161594961517879516182605758797661517675585775795161[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1][DhtmlXQ_comment20]变化下去会如何？[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D34644%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-10-28 11:19:03

桑莫喜发表于 2015-10-27 21:01
请陈先生给出着法.

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[DhtmlXQ_title]彩雲半天  添邊相修改局 (陳明仁)   [/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]844460423130403044343040658737383438883861514858858140302434380801115854112154343949342451412421414030408121[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_99]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_99]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_1]585439385434384834444858303181804474716174708081707858597877818077575949578780403130404187884111303111107969105088854948854548584549072542640111313211213242254749476171474951614232585749415758412158572141575841406151404951613231718131418171494661514140718146765857767851616482615169595161594961517879516182605758797661517675585775795161[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_1]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D34644%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-10-28 11:30:46

21 樓紅難走,感謝余兄,我再想想

聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-10-28 11:38:17

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[DhtmlXQ_title]彩雲半天添邊相修改局 (陳明仁) [/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_99]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_99]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1]4858858140302434585439385434384834444858303181804474716174708081707858597877818077575949578780403130404187884111303111107969105088854948854548584549072542640111313211213242254749476171474951614232585749415758412158572141575841406151404951613231718131418171494661514140718146765857767851616482615169595161594961517879516182605758797661517675585775795161[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20]变化下去会如何？[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29]這種局面是和局還是黑勝\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D34644%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-10-28 11:47:06

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[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999079939996599849985716131012499999999409960994899889999997937[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]彩雲半天  添邊相修改局 (陳明仁)   [/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]84446042313040304434304065873738343888386151484685814030514146363949388881884224072936468848464187654131[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_99]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_99]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1]4858858140302434585439385434384834444858303181804474716174708081707858597877818077575949578780403130404187884111303111107969105088854948854548584549072542640111313211213242254749476171474951614232585749415758412158572141575841406151404951613231718131418171494661514140718146765857767851616482615169595161594961517879516182605758797661517675585775795161[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20]变化下去会如何？[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]這種局面是和局還是黑勝\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_2]4101654701714838[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_2][DhtmlXQ_comment26] 這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment26]
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yjr123 · 发表于 2015-10-28 17:11:27

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[DhtmlXQ_title]彩雲半天添邊相修改局 (陳明仁) [/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_99]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_99]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment20]变化下去会如何？[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]這種局面是和局還是黑勝\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_2]01714838[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_2]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-10-28 18:59:36

改底相可否?

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-10-28 19:09:44

好像仍是黑勝

聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-10-28 19:59:07

再看看
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2015-10-29 11:14:42

紅難和
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