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标题: 062、毫厘之差的隔水照珠 [打印本页]

作者: 667 时间: 2015-12-24 02:54
标题: 062、毫厘之差的隔水照珠
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[DhtmlXQ_comment37]红方只有按古例一将一杀佯和。即改走车一平四，再平一一将一杀作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]这一着改走车一退三互相牵制仍可守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50]红方兑兵后，失去谋和的机会，此时黑方退||车赶兵深入失策，改走车退5可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_2]5658[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_2][DhtmlXQ_comment18]注释：||　①、弈至图2形势时，黑方走卒5进1亦是黑胜，但着法冗长，故略。应走：||　　　9、…… ……车6进2！　 10、帅六进一、车6退6　　11、车六退三（1）炮9退5||　　　12、帅六平五、卒5进1　 13、兵三进一、车6平7　　14、车六平五、将5平6||　　　15、车五退一、车7平6　 16、兵七进一、炮9平1　　17、兵七平六、炮1进6||　　　18、兵六进一、炮1平5　 19、车五平二、车6平5　　20、帅五平六、将6平5||　　　21、车二进一、车5进2　 22、兵六平五、炮5退6　　23、车二退四、炮5平4||　　　黑胜。||（1）如：||　　　　11、车六退四、炮9平5　 12、帅六退一、炮5进1　 13、兵七进一、车6平5||　　　　14、兵三平四、卒5进1　 15、兵四进一、车5平6　 16、车六平五、将5平6||　　　　17、兵七平六、车6进3　 18、车五退三、车6平4　 19、车五平六、车4平5||　　　　20、兵六进一、将6平5　 21、兵六进一、炮5平4　 22、帅六退一、卒6平5||　　　　23、帅六进一、车5进2、黑胜。||备考：因本局诠正为黑胜局，不合江湖排局惯例，应在图1的基础之上，增添一枚九·三||位红相则可弈成和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18][DhtmlXQ_comment0]||于喜海：||||第62局毫厘之差的“隔水照珠”图62-1，结论和局，实质应是黑胜局。如下：||||着法：红先（图1）||　 1、车五进一、将4平5||　 2、车三平五、将5平4||　 3、车五平六、将4平5||　 4、炮一平五、车5退3||　 5、车六退五、车5进3||　 6、炮二平五、车5进2||　 7、车六进七、将5进1||　 8、帅六进一、车5平6||　 9、兵四平三、卒5进1①　　　　图一　　　　　　　　　图二||注释：||　①、弈至图2形势时，黑方走卒5进1亦是黑胜，但着法冗长，故略。应走：||　　　9、…… ……车6进2！　 10、帅六进一、车6退6　　11、车六退三（1）炮9退5||　　　12、帅六平五、卒5进1　 13、兵三进一、车6平7　　14、车六平五、将5平6||　　　15、车五退一、车7平6　 16、兵七进一、炮9平1　　17、兵七平六、炮1进6||　　　18、兵六进一、炮1平5　 19、车五平二、车6平5　　20、帅五平六、将6平5||　　　21、车二进一、车5进2　 22、兵六平五、炮5退6　　23、车二退四、炮5平4||　　　黑胜。||（1）如：||　　　　11、车六退四、炮9平5　 12、帅六退一、炮5进1　 13、兵七进一、车6平5||　　　　14、兵三平四、卒5进1　 15、兵四进一、车5平6　 16、车六平五、将5平6||　　　　17、兵七平六、车6进3　 18、车五退三、车6平4　 19、车五平六、车4平5||　　　　20、兵六进一、将6平5　 21、兵六进一、炮5平4　 22、帅六退一、卒6平5||　　　　23、帅六进一、车5进2、黑胜。||备考：因本局诠正为黑胜局，不合江湖排局惯例，应在图1的基础之上，增添一枚九·三||位红相则可弈成和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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作者: bh22wsc 时间: 2015-12-24 09:25
于喜海的着法第11回合炮9退5后，红方应兵三平二，再车六平五吃卒，黑方如何取胜？他走帅六平五，太软。再者即使退车，应该先车退一打将后再退车，应是深谋远虑。

作者: hzsjy 时间: 2015-12-24 12:59
“搜秘”的着法是有问题。但此局的结论是对的。
我的着法：
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[DhtmlXQ_comment15]变着是在２０１５年由＂成都时代出版社＂出的＂百局象棋谱＂中白宏宽先生的着法．[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21]成和的关键着法．[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_59]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_66]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_64]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_42]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_58]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_40]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_55]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_47]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_66]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_34]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_44]此时形势在２０１５版＂江湖棋局搜秘＂中黑车５平６走成和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_48]红不能长杀，必须变着．变则黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_44]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_15]白宏宽先生的着法．[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_52]以下黑胜．[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_72]黑胜．[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_72]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-12-24 13:18
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[DhtmlXQ_comment21]成和的关键着法．[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_49]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_59]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_66]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_64]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_42]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_58]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_40]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_55]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_47]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_66]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_34]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_44]此时形势在２０１５版＂江湖棋局搜秘＂中黑车５平６走成和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_48]红不能长杀，必须变着．变则黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_44]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_15]白宏宽先生的着法．[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_52]以下黑胜．[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_72]黑胜．[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_72]
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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-12-24 22:44
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作者: 凌云子 时间: 2015-12-24 23:53
一楼第七回合红先走帅六进一如何？

作者: 凌云子 时间: 2015-12-25 00:14
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[DhtmlXQ_comment14_21]成和的关键着法．[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_49]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_59]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_66]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_64]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_42]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_58]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_40]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_55]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_47]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_66]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_34]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_44]此时形势在２０１５版＂江湖棋局搜秘＂中黑车５平６走成和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_48]红不能长杀，必须变着．变则黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_44]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15]白宏宽先生的着法．[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_52]以下黑胜．[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_52]
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作者: 凌云子 时间: 2015-12-25 00:25
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[DhtmlXQ_comment12_21]成和的关键着法．[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_49]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_59]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_66]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_64]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_42]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_58]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_40]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_55]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_47]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_66]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_34]和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44]此时形势在２０１５版＂江湖棋局搜秘＂中黑车５平６走成和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_48]红不能长杀，必须变着．变则黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_44]黑胜定．[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_15]白宏宽先生的着法．[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_52]以下黑胜．[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_72]黑胜．[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_72]
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作者: 凌云子 时间: 2015-12-25 00:49
回三楼，主变第11回合，黑改走车6进2，帅六进一，再车6退5，这样黑卒过河就有杀棋

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-12-25 01:22
黑勝的是這局

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-12-25 08:50
搜秘的圖是這樣吧,據說是在香港看到的

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-12-25 09:11
香港用的應是亞洲規則,亞規11樓可和,12 樓呢? 有何不同呢?

作者: llllssss 时间: 2015-12-25 10:18
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作者: llllssss 时间: 2015-12-25 10:42
本帖最后由 llllssss 于 2015-12-25 16:05 编辑

《奇胜巧和象棋谱》中的这局才是和棋
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-12-25 15:52
6 樓好像可和

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-12-25 15:56
12樓是否這樣?

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作者: yjr123 时间: 2015-12-25 16:28

hzsjy 发表于 2015-12-24 12:59
“搜秘”的着法是有问题。但此局的结论是对的。
我的着法：

作者: yjr123 时间: 2015-12-25 17:00
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_37]红方只有按古例一将一杀佯和。即改走车一平四，再平一一将一杀作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_39]这一着改走车一退三互相牵制仍可守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_50]红方兑兵后，失去谋和的机会，此时黑方退||车赶兵深入失策，改走车退5可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_50]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]注释：||　①、弈至图2形势时，黑方走卒5进1亦是黑胜，但着法冗长，故略。应走：||　　　9、…… ……车6进2！　 10、帅六进一、车6退6　　11、车六退三（1）炮9退5||　　　12、帅六平五、卒5进1　 13、兵三进一、车6平7　　14、车六平五、将5平6||　　　15、车五退一、车7平6　 16、兵七进一、炮9平1　　17、兵七平六、炮1进6||　　　18、兵六进一、炮1平5　 19、车五平二、车6平5　　20、帅五平六、将6平5||　　　21、车二进一、车5进2　 22、兵六平五、炮5退6　　23、车二退四、炮5平4||　　　黑胜。||（1）如：||　　　　11、车六退四、炮9平5　 12、帅六退一、炮5进1　 13、兵七进一、车6平5||　　　　14、兵三平四、卒5进1　 15、兵四进一、车5平6　 16、车六平五、将5平6||　　　　17、兵七平六、车6进3　 18、车五退三、车6平4　 19、车五平六、车4平5||　　　　20、兵六进一、将6平5　 21、兵六进一、炮5平4　 22、帅六退一、卒6平5||　　　　23、帅六进一、车5进2、黑胜。||备考：因本局诠正为黑胜局，不合江湖排局惯例，应在图1的基础之上，增添一枚九·三||位红相则可弈成和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||于喜海：||||第62局毫厘之差的“隔水照珠”图62-1，结论和局，实质应是黑胜局。如下：||||着法：红先（图1）||　 1、车五进一、将4平5||　 2、车三平五、将5平4||　 3、车五平六、将4平5||　 4、炮一平五、车5退3||　 5、车六退五、车5进3||　 6、炮二平五、车5进2||　 7、车六进七、将5进1||　 8、帅六进一、车5平6||　 9、兵四平三、卒5进1①　　　　图一　　　　　　　　　图二||注释：||　①、弈至图2形势时，黑方走卒5进1亦是黑胜，但着法冗长，故略。应走：||　　　9、…… ……车6进2！　 10、帅六进一、车6退6　　11、车六退三（1）炮9退5||　　　12、帅六平五、卒5进1　 13、兵三进一、车6平7　　14、车六平五、将5平6||　　　15、车五退一、车7平6　 16、兵七进一、炮9平1　　17、兵七平六、炮1进6||　　　18、兵六进一、炮1平5　 19、车五平二、车6平5　　20、帅五平六、将6平5||　　　21、车二进一、车5进2　 22、兵六平五、炮5退6　　23、车二退四、炮5平4||　　　黑胜。||（1）如：||　　　　11、车六退四、炮9平5　 12、帅六退一、炮5进1　 13、兵七进一、车6平5||　　　　14、兵三平四、卒5进1　 15、兵四进一、车5平6　 16、车六平五、将5平6||　　　　17、兵七平六、车6进3　 18、车五退三、车6平4　 19、车五平六、车4平5||　　　　20、兵六进一、将6平5　 21、兵六进一、炮5平4　 22、帅六退一、卒6平5||　　　　23、帅六进一、车5进2、黑胜。||备考：因本局诠正为黑胜局，不合江湖排局惯例，应在图1的基础之上，增添一枚九·三||位红相则可弈成和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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作者: llllssss 时间: 2015-12-25 20:00

yjr123 发表于 2015-12-25 17:00

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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-12-25 20:21
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作者: 邢春波 时间: 2015-12-25 20:40
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作者: llllssss 时间: 2015-12-25 20:42
隔水照珠的正确结论为黑胜
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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-12-25 21:06
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正在拆解，如何定论黑胜？

作者: 邢春波 时间: 2015-12-25 21:09

llllssss 发表于 2015-12-25 20:42
隔水照珠的正确结论为黑胜

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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_64]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_64]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_23]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_23]
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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-12-25 21:30
本帖最后由一杯红酒于 2015-12-25 21:32 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment16]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment16]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-12-25 22:00
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[DhtmlXQ_comment16]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_20]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_22]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_22]
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2015-12-26 08:50

聨吟客发表于 2015-12-25 22:00

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-12-26 09:00
嗯,各樓變化看得眼花撩亂,呵呵呵, 那麼隔水照珠原局到底正確結論為何呢?

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-12-26 09:04

llllssss 发表于 2015-12-25 10:18

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作者: yjr123 时间: 2015-12-26 13:25
正确结论应该是原书所说的古例作和，现在大陆棋规则黑胜。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-12-27 13:18
14樓變著探討

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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_26]以下进中卒胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_51]此处体现兵在七五位与八六位的区别[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_55]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_65]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_55]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_51]不能常捉[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_17]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_28]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15]劣着，导致黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_50]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_56]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_42]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_52]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_42]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_42]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_30_31_32]3747880824230809474809494333544448384909232251413331414031304041222109393839444821314151[/DhtmlXQ_move_30_31_32]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_28_17_34]53635558334341514353514153585949[/DhtmlXQ_move_28_17_34]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_35]626042608580608275708880[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]依现代大陆棋规[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_28]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_25]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_50]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_46]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_46]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_46]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_45]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_23]亦可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_46]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_53]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_55]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_55]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_45]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_80]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_66]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_51]不能长捉[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_66]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_17]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_28]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_15]劣着，导致黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_48]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_56]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_42]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_52]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_42]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_42]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]依现代大陆棋规[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1]红如贪胜而改走车三进二，则象5退7，炮一进五，象7进9，黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12]黑如贪胜而误走将5平6，则车六进七！将6进1，兵四进一！将6进1，车六平四连杀，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_49]如继续兵五平六则一杀一要抽吃黑卒违规[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_70]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_64]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_18]这样黑方胜不了[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_53]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_48]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_48]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_23]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_48]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_21]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_46]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_15]这样亦黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_44]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_24]以下红有两种着法均负[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_56]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_52]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_40]
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[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]这是杨明忠改局[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_41]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_21]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_38]
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作者: 凌云子 时间: 2016-1-10 23:32
联兄，上个月见过，在这里回了贴《江湖棋局搜秘》修订本第205页，即第64局早期的“火烧连营“的“图64“中卒应是黑车。此局应算是“隔水照珠“的改局。

作者: 凌云子 时间: 2016-2-10 23:19
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[DhtmlXQ_title]陈广仁《街头象棋残局》成都时代2010版第2局“隔水照珠“（一）[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||||陈广仁《街头象棋残局》成都时代2010版第2局“隔水照珠“（一）[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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作者: 凌云子 时间: 2016-2-10 23:21
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[DhtmlXQ_title]陈广仁《街头象棋残局》成都时代2010版第3局“隔水照珠“（二）[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||陈广仁《街头象棋残局》成都时代2010版第3局“隔水照珠“（二）[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-2-11 09:44
陳廣仁的譜我也有買,當初見到他名字與我差一個字,頓時感到惺惺相惜之意

我房間雜亂,還要找一下

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-2-11 09:51
啊哈~~~~ 找到了,原來就在電腦旁邊, 哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈..........................................

我電腦是在客廳

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-2-11 09:55
唉呀,不對,我買的是江湖流行殘棋解秘, 呵呵呵呵呵.......................

難怪對36與37樓沒印象

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2016-2-11 09:59
用東萍棋盤搜索同型局,看到很多類局

作者: 大征西 时间: 2016-3-1 00:10

聨吟客发表于 2016-2-11 09:44
陳廣仁的譜我也有買,當初見到他名字與我差一個字,頓時感到惺惺相惜之意

我房間雜亂,還要找一下:lo ...

一字之差也！！！本局也是如此！

作者: 大征西 时间: 2016-3-5 22:53

bh22wsc 发表于 2015-12-24 09:25
于喜海的着法第11回合炮9退5后，红方应兵三平二，再车六平五吃卒，黑方如何取胜？他走帅六平五，太软。再者 ...

有道理！

作者: sunyt 时间: 2016-3-8 20:10
本帖最后由 sunyt 于 2016-3-8 20:49 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1]红如贪胜而改走车三进二，则象5退7，炮一进五，象7进9，黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12]黑如贪胜而误走将5平6，则车六进七！将6进1，兵四进一！将6进1，车六平四连杀，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]红方只有按古例一将一杀佯和。即改走车一平四，再平一一将一杀作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]这一着改走车一退三互相牵制仍可守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_72]黑胜．[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_49]如继续兵五平六则一杀一要抽吃黑卒违规[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_70]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_64]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_44]此时形势在２０１５版＂江湖棋局搜秘＂中黑车５平６走成和局．[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_18]这样黑方胜不了[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_42]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_25]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_49]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_48]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_48]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_53]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_41]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_23]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_48]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_21]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_46]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_46]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_24]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_34]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_24]先防止兵過河, 如何？[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_49]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_59]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_66]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_64]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_42]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_58]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_40]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_55]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_47]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_55]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_66]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_24]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_20]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_22]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_44]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_24]以下红有两种着法均负[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_56]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_52]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_22]以下红有两种着法均是负局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_43]||||||和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_18]这样黑方胜不了[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_48]和！[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_35]和！[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_25]||速和[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_35]和棋||||注解合并：||||||||和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_26]以后参考同型变例！[/DhtmlXQ_comment60_26]
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作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2019-12-16 12:18
今天这局我又遇到问题了。特意来找一下资料。

作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2019-12-16 12:31
还好我楼上有一个汇总的贴子。

作者: 老鸽子 时间: 2021-3-1 22:11
还有一局大家都没注意到，这是现代最早的改编版，即：傅荣年《象棋残局新谱》（二）之“损兵折将”。

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