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标题: 双龙潭溪（林铁狼改拟） [打印本页]

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作者: 林铁狼    时间: 2016-3-31 22:36
标题: 双龙潭溪（林铁狼改拟）
在《湖涯集》“高象潭溪”基础上加黑马、红兵。
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作者: sdndsx    时间: 2016-4-1 15:37
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作者: 林铁狼    时间: 2016-4-1 20:23
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作者: sdndsx    时间: 2016-4-1 22:09

林铁狼 发表于 2016-4-1 20:23

谢谢分享！

学生我2楼的试解着法，仅供参考，不一定就对。

江湖排局与连将胜排局不同（个人观点，不作为标准）：

1 连将胜排局，有周软辅助，为了避免先入为主，贴图不贴着法，好像可以接受（贴出着法更好）。
2 学生我最渴盼非连将胜排局贴出着法，至少可以减少试解过程中的无用功。

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作者: 林铁狼    时间: 2016-4-2 00:50

sdndsx 发表于 2016-4-1 22:09
谢谢分享！

学生我2楼的试解着法，仅供参考，不一定就对。

说明两点：
一、我不是什么老师，我也是象棋排局界的“初哥”（粤语，菜鸟之意）；
二、关于这个排局：
我以前曾自己试拟过双相、加兵卒的变局，可是全部失败……
后来从《三国演义》（貌似原局名字也是来自这本书）中“西川独霸真英主，坐下龙驹两相遇。檀溪溪水自东流，龙驹英主今何处？”（好吧，我一直把“檀溪”写成了“潭溪”）一句受到启发：
刘皇叔与的卢乃是“双龙”，为何不从这里下手?
就有了这么一局。
事后回想一下：刘皇叔乃一方霸主，应该为“将”，为首领。
这么一来，红方岂不是刘表？晕了
我想当初给原局取名字的人可能没有想到这一层吧……
对不起说多了

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作者: 林铁狼    时间: 2016-4-3 18:04
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作者: 林铁狼    时间: 2016-4-6 02:22
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作者: 林铁狼    时间: 2016-4-16 05:29
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2016-4-20 01:39
添子後非常複雜,令人望而生畏

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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2018-1-31 11:22
頂上,熱鬧一下

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作者: 石川铃华老湿    时间: 2018-1-31 20:52
复杂多变

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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2018-2-4 16:16
以前棋友們討論這一局,都還不敢說完全透徹
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[DhtmlXQ_comment11_14]这是个新变化[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_54]红难和[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_1]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_5]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_21]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_7]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_28]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_56]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_44]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_52]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_27]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_33]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14]这是非常复杂的一变[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_15]hanghang提供的着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_47]这样反而红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_28]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_28]如误走车8平5则炮九平五红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_32]不变和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_22]以下车炮对车马象和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_22]复杂局面[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_15]这样把局势复杂化了[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_24]这和第8回合直接走炮二退八的效果相同[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_15]这和炮二退八的效果相同[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]红必丢相且阵型不佳，处于下风[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]这样可能不好[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_22]这样速和了[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_36]红无法阻挡黑车马攻势，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_23]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_32]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_25]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_14]这变也复杂，不易对付[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_15]这样可能比较简明， 但红明显一直处于下风[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]因红要打车，所以黑必须立即解套。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_14]这是劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_25]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_21]这样黑白白让红调整了位置，显然不合算[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_25]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_25]
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作者: 林铁狼    时间: 2018-2-4 17:22
我对双龙4的提示
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作者: 林铁狼    时间: 2018-2-4 17:23

林铁狼 发表于 2018-2-4 17:22
我对双龙4的提示

当然，这里的脱帽不一定对……
大家和我一起研究就好

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