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标题: 孑孓戏水 杨启忠 拟局 [打印本页]
作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2016-10-18 12:11
标题: 孑孓戏水 杨启忠 拟局
来则简单的，请棋友们轻松玩玩：

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[DhtmlXQ_title]孑孓戏水5[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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作者: 魔帝大人    时间: 2016-10-18 12:44
先脱帽子：
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作者: 橘中搜秘    时间: 2016-10-18 17:50
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作者: 邢春波    时间: 2016-10-18 21:14
橘中搜秘 发表于 2016-10-18 17:50

删掉一相，不能赢吧。
作者: chessbug    时间: 2016-10-20 00:29
单相和，双相胜。
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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2016-10-20 17:12
本帖最后由 杨启忠 于 2016-10-20 19:03 编辑

嗯！大家玩的不错。上传完整着法，请指正：

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作者: 橘中搜秘    时间: 2016-10-20 17:41
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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2016-10-20 19:06
橘中搜秘 发表于 2016-10-20 17:41

谢谢指正，已在6#完善
作者: 橘中搜秘    时间: 2016-10-20 19:53
再完善
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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2016-10-21 07:09
橘中搜秘 发表于 2016-10-20 19:53
再完善

楼上17回黑象7退5，也是28回红胜。
作者: 橘中搜秘    时间: 2016-10-21 11:05
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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2016-10-23 09:33
橘中搜秘 发表于 2016-10-21 11:05

嗯，谢谢橘中搜秘棋友指正，14回士5进6之变，我漏算了其中有一个红帅可平中的变化。在整理一下，棋友们看看还有不足否：

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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2016-10-23 09:52
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2016-10-23 09:54 编辑

增兩只底卒如何
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2016-10-23 09:56
不知是否都能勝?呵呵呵......
作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2016-10-23 09:59
聨吟客 发表于 2016-10-23 09:52
增兩只底卒如何

那样的话，估计很合陈兄的口味，和棋
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2016-10-23 10:06
不急,  研究看看能否消滅底卒
作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2016-10-23 10:10
聨吟客 发表于 2016-10-23 10:06
不急,  研究看看能否消滅底卒

只放一枚底卒即可。
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2016-10-23 10:19
只放一卒有點畫蛇添足,  所以兩卒才有意思,  不論是勝或和
作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2016-10-23 10:24
也是和棋啊
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2016-10-23 10:33
炮雙相運用是否能消滅底卒呢
作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2016-10-23 11:09
灭卒可以，但红炮位走差，黑士可转移到6路，再出将，和棋
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2016-10-23 12:27
假設走成這樣
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2016-10-23 23:49
可能楊兄是對的,   先棄卒可保雙象, 黑似能和局
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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2016-10-24 09:57
聨吟客 发表于 2016-10-23 23:49
可能楊兄是對的,   先棄卒可保雙象, 黑似能和局

对，就是这个意思：保留双象即和。
作者: 桑莫喜    时间: 2016-10-24 11:54
本帖最后由 桑莫喜 于 2016-10-24 12:00 编辑

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作者: 杨启忠    时间: 2016-10-24 19:04
谢谢棋友们参与研讨，没想到大家对这则小局还有兴趣。27#两处错误：10回将5进1和棋，19回炮五进八红胜。28#一处软手：11回应炮五平六。



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