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标题: 虚晃一枪红先胜赵殿忠 [打印本页]

作者: zhaodi 时间: 2018-3-10 20:06
标题: 虚晃一枪红先胜赵殿忠
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作者: zhang48129 时间: 2018-3-12 16:11
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作者: zhaodi 时间: 2018-3-12 22:15

zhang48129 发表于 2018-3-12 16:11
这卒不下去，得想法赶下去。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-3-12 22:48
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]此局乃赵殿忠老师于2018.3.10发表。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3]唯有此着才能取胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]揣摩了一下这个棋式的创作原意，应该是平卒较为贴切。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]红胜势[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_4]此变似乎更考验红方的功力。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]必走之着！[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_13]必走之着！[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]杀势已现[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]下一步马后炮杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_8]黑这样应顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4]先走車如何||有沉底捉兌炮手段[/DhtmlXQ_comment4]
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2018-3-13 10:52

聨吟客发表于 2018-3-12 22:48

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-3-13 11:45
紅也只有炮平一避開
等待高手解答了

作者: yjr123 时间: 2018-3-13 13:08

聨吟客发表于 2018-3-13 11:45
紅也只有炮平一避開
等待高手解答了

作者: qzlyr 时间: 2018-3-13 13:24
第二回合红方必须走相三进一才能取胜！如楼上谱：先进马将军再飞相，黑走车7平2，变成和棋了。
这个谱我于昨天发表于泓弈网，因为当时我记不起华工网的密码，所以就先发在了泓弈网

作者: qzlyr 时间: 2018-3-13 13:50
本帖最后由 qzlyr 于 2018-3-13 14:00 编辑

聨吟客发表于 2018-3-12 22:48

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[DhtmlXQ_comment12]此后黑车若连续捉炮则违例，不再敷述冗着，故只能被迫走另外一个可动之子，后与主变同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]揣摩了一下这个棋式的创作原意，应该是平卒较为贴切。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]红胜势[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_4]此变似乎更考验红方的功力。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]必走之着！[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_13]必走之着！[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]杀势已现[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]下一步马后炮杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-3-14 19:35

yjr123 发表于 2018-3-13 13:08

余兄所述思路真是令我茅塞頓開豁然開朗

呵呵呵

作者: zhaodi 时间: 2018-3-14 22:15

聨吟客发表于 2018-3-14 19:35
余兄所述思路真是令我茅塞頓開豁然開朗

呵呵呵

哈哈，黑方也知道红方的意图了，它会避免黑车在象眼被吃。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-3-15 05:27

zhaodi 发表于 2018-3-14 22:15
哈哈，黑方也知道红方的意图了，它会避免黑车在象眼被吃。

高人也

聽趙兄所說雙方又像是在捉迷藏一樣

呵呵

作者: 杨启忠 时间: 2018-3-15 08:17
2回马五进六可逼黑下卒：

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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_12]此后黑车若连续捉炮则违例，不再敷述冗着，故只能被迫走另外一个可动之子，后与主变同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_12]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]红胜势[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_4]此变似乎更考验红方的功力。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]必走之着！[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_13]必走之着！[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_13]
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2018-3-15 09:12

qzlyr 发表于 2018-3-13 13:50

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-3-15 09:54
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_12]此后黑车若连续捉炮则违例，不再敷述冗着，故只能被迫走另外一个可动之子，后与主变同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]揣摩了一下这个棋式的创作原意，应该是平卒较为贴切。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]红胜势[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_4]此变似乎更考验红方的功力。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]必走之着！[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_13]必走之着！[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]杀势已现[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-3-15 10:00
我怎麼感覺黑車避不開被馬吃的命運?有待高人繼續指點囉

作者: yjr123 时间: 2018-3-15 13:20
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]揣摩了一下这个棋式的创作原意，应该是平卒较为贴切。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]红胜势[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4]此变似乎更考验红方的功力。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_9]必走之着！[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_13]必走之着！[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_15]杀势已现[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_15]
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作者: 杨启忠 时间: 2018-3-16 08:12
是灭卒胜吗？

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-3-16 11:00
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作者: zhaodi 时间: 2018-3-16 16:21
9楼大部分正确。

按照下面主变继续拆解下去。(....，后与主变同.这个局面无法回到“主变”，[color=Red]其实这是主变）

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[DhtmlXQ_comment3]唯有此着才能取胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12]此后黑车若连续捉炮则违例，不再敷述冗着，故只能被迫走另外一个可动之子，后与主变同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]揣摩了一下这个棋式的创作原意，应该是平卒较为贴切。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]红胜势[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_4]此变似乎更考验红方的功力。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]必走之着！[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_13]必走之着！[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]杀势已现[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]下一步马后炮杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]此局乃赵殿忠老师于2018.3.10发表于华工网残局探索专栏。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3]唯有此着才能取胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12]此后黑车若连续捉炮则违例，不再敷述冗着，故只能被迫走另外一个可动之子，后与主变同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]揣摩了一下这个棋式的创作原意，应该是平卒较为贴切。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]红胜势[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_4]此变似乎更考验红方的功力。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]必走之着！[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_13]必走之着！[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]杀势已现[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]下一步马后炮杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]山东老李[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
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作者: zhaodi 时间: 2018-3-16 17:14

聨吟客发表于 2018-3-16 17:05

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-3-16 17:32
不太明白,黑卒更遠紅豈不是更容易勝
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]此局乃赵殿忠老师于2018.3.10发表于华工网残局探索专栏。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3]唯有此着才能取胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12]此后黑车若连续捉炮则违例，不再敷述冗着，故只能被迫走另外一个可动之子，后与主变同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]揣摩了一下这个棋式的创作原意，应该是平卒较为贴切。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]红胜势[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_4]此变似乎更考验红方的功力。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]必走之着！[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_13]必走之着！[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]杀势已现[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]下一步马后炮杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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作者: zhaodi 时间: 2018-3-16 20:23
我的着法,有一些冗招，请大家修改指正，
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[DhtmlXQ_comment103]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment103]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_55]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_57]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_23]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_23]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-3-16 22:03
樓上黑方走法紅可利用規則取得速勝
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_55]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_57]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_23]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_23]
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2018-3-17 12:17
还有这一变

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_55]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_57]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_23]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_23]
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2018-3-17 12:28

zhaodi 发表于 2018-3-16 20:23
我的着法,有一些冗招，请大家修改指正，

作者: zhaodi 时间: 2018-3-17 13:29

聨吟客发表于 2018-3-16 22:03
樓上黑方走法紅可利用規則取得速勝

我认为是黑方一将一捉，红方长杀，不变作和。

作者: zhaodi 时间: 2018-3-17 13:46

yjr123 发表于 2018-3-17 12:28

余老师的马二进一红是速胜。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_57]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_57]
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2018-3-17 18:33

zhaodi 发表于 2018-3-17 13:29
我认为是黑方一将一捉，红方长杀，不变作和。

红方应该是一杀一闲，因为士五进六和平炮杀没有关联，属于原来就存在的杀。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-3-17 22:43

yjr123 发表于 2018-3-17 12:17
还有这一变

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_55]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_57]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_23]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_23]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-3-18 09:30
修飾一下

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_55]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_57]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_57]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment6_31] 大陸規則紅勝吧[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4]还有这一变[/DhtmlXQ_comment4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5]退馬守仕兼露帥做殺||紅勝定||好像只有此招能勝\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment5]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-3-18 23:17
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