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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-5-25 12:57
标题: 臥駟
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-5-25 13:02
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2018-5-25 13:04 编辑

此局作者王和生先生

傅信仁大哥編的七子譜書中說8回合黑改馬5進4紅無求和手段

如在黑象旁加一紅兵可按原構想弈和
然已不屬於七子譜了

但並沒有列出走法

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-5-25 13:08
那麼走法應該是如何呢
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-5-25 13:17
該譜是這樣

七子譜
王和生遺著
瞿新範藏本
傅信仁刊校印贈

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-5-25 23:19
我仍不知3樓解法如何

各位同好有什麼研究沒有

傅大哥也好久沒來了

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-5-26 10:56
3樓走到8回合時黑馬可既不退4也不進4.
而其他位置都可以,紅難應 ,所增底兵似乎也沒什麼大作用了

大家認為呢

作者: 林铁狼 时间: 2018-5-26 11:11
本帖最后由林铁狼于 2018-5-26 11:13 编辑

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-5-26 12:11
好像真的可以和局
傅大哥底兵加得絕妙!!

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-5-26 12:19

林铁狼发表于 2018-5-26 11:11

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-5-26 12:25

聨吟客发表于 2018-5-26 12:19
飛象?

平炮較好?
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-5-26 12:31
還有馬入中宮變化
晚點再研究

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有點問題
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-5-28 07:15
這樣修改局就可按照原意和局

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-5-28 07:25
喔
只是已經不是七子局了
若一定要七子局也很容易
加邊相或兵有很多位置可放
呵呵呵

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-5-29 14:44
王先生還有一局這樣

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-5-29 14:54
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2018-5-29 14:57 编辑

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-5-30 21:20
會是這樣嗎

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-5-30 21:31
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2018-5-30 22:24 编辑

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