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标题: 三氣周瑜 [打印本页]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-9-29 23:51
标题: 三氣周瑜
蔣權朱鶴洲裘望禹百局譜詮注本的走法

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[DhtmlXQ_comment50]||和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment50]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-9-29 23:59

感覺還有很多變化待挖掘

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-9-30 00:04
這樣如何?

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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_38]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36]||為什麼不這樣黑仍占優呢\u003F紅不容易和\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment36]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-9-30 01:34
云庫走法很深奧有點像鴻雁雙飛

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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_38]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]||為什麼不這樣黑仍占優呢\u003F紅不容易和\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25]云庫走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment25][DhtmlXQ_comment59]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment59]
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作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2018-9-30 02:26
本帖最后由 chouzhouyu 于 2018-9-30 12:29 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]该局排局界黑胜好象已是定论。在87年版的朱蒋裘版本中为和棋结论，在90年代后就成了黑胜了。包括朱鹤洲再版的。||论坛中关于该局的地址：||http://www.hychess.com/forum.php ... &extra=page%3D1||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p6C/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 13 17]本人认为可和着法红变招处[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/5P3/9/9/4c1b2/6B2/4C4/9/4p4/3K5 b - - 0 28]本人认为可和着法2[/FEN]||||[FEN=2b1k3C/9/r4RP2/9/9/9/p5P2/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 w - - 0 9]百局变招分支处[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/3k5/9/9/9/9/9/9/3p1K3/1C7 b - - 1 36]百局第1局，和[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/4PP3/3C5/2b6/9/9/4p4/5p3/4K2c1 w - - 0 21]百局第2局，黑胜[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/3P1P3/9/9/2b6/9/3C5/4B4/4p4/3K1p3 w - - 1 31]白周版本黑胜主变[/FEN]||||发现黑胜着法主要为：黑卒能有机会走到红帅九宫处，一种胜法是黑卒走到红士角位置时红相来不及飞直接被黑卒吃掉了，另一种是黑卒走到红方二路线，控制住了红帅的活动，之后黑炮移到红方左侧成杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3]兼攻带守的着法。一面闪开炮路，伏沉底炮杀；一面防黑卒平3（弃卒吸引），相五退七，車6平4的杀着或炮2进9后車1平4的杀着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6]先手除去红方底兵，暗伏車1平4的杀着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12]升車保象，一着两用，暗伏車1平4的杀着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]弃車引象，解除黑車1平4的杀着威胁。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18]以下原谱列出两局变化[/DhtmlXQ_comment18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19]第二局||||||该局是否是黑胜和和棋的结论主要看这路变化。||||[FEN=4k4/9/4PP3/3C5/2b6/9/9/4p4/5p3/4K2c1 w - - 0 21]百局第2局，黑胜[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/3k1P3/9/9/2b6/3C5/3p5/4B4/3K1p3/9 w - - 7 23]朱蒋裘87年版本认为该变和棋着法[/FEN]||||徐家亮，苏德龙87年百局版本为原谱黑胜着法，之后再版的也未更改。||||[FEN=5k3/9/b3P4/9/4C1P2/9/9/9/4pp3/3K3c1 w - - 2 18]董志新88年百局版本认为该变黑胜着法1（另一胜法为原谱胜法）[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/3k1P3/2P6/9/2b6/3C5/9/4B4/4p4/1c1p1K3 w - - 44 32]朱鹤洲99年版的江湖排局集成中诠为黑胜着法[/FEN]||||杨明忠版为黑胜为原谱着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]原谱着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_58]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_31]弈聪注：这步进兵感觉有问题，不进兵更利于防守，多了一个炮可在兵前打卒的机会且炮可在该线左右移动相当于多了一路活动范围。可动炮走闲着。但红若想取胜的话进兵也可以。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_32]弈聪注：下步红方的应着各诠注本基本上是炮平五或平六，炮平五可以说是防止黑卒占心使红帅动不了，但可以走帅六平五替代。炮平六根本看不出它的作用。炮留在一二路线更好，以后万一黑卒走下来，可以退炮防守防止黑卒进一步下来。下步棋红炮上下动走闲觉得可以。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_33]新招[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_35]弈聪注：守和的关键点，不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相，红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着，或用炮拦黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_39]和？||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会，之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_47]黑一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_65]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_37]？可能有问题。||||走闲着。红中兵未拱下去时更好。这样炮可再进一步，利于左右移动。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_43]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_40]黑卒拱下去即和。||||黑另一种胜法是黑炮能否回到中路进攻。这样的话上步红炮进一较好，可拦黑炮，但黑炮可回打红兵，拦不住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_53]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]飞相关键。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_33]？刊注着法，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_39]？可否平移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_41]之前飞相的话这步黑卒走下来后能有机会平炮打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_45][FEN=5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment11_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_49]红一将一杀，必须变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_45]下同主变。||||[FEN=5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment21_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_33]弈聪注：原谱着法，黑胜。这步棋看不出它的作用。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_42]百局第2局红车杀黑车，劣着，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_33]新招。同帅六平五原理一样。在黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相均可。||诠注本的胜法中有一种是相未飞，炮还在中路，致使黑卒攻下来若飞相炮在中路没机会退炮做好打卒的准备。不飞相直接被吃了，后面根本无法防守。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_27]劣。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_38]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_46]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]亦和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_34]败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_37]错失胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_43]和。竹谱变九。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_27]以下黑有三种应着均难逃败北下場。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_41]红胜。竹谱变八。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_51]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_31]红胜。竹谱变十一。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_35]红胜定。竹谱变十二。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_52]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_24]新变！[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_57]不变作和！[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_50]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_50]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_57]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_51]亦可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_41]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_42]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_47]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_51]这样黑不利！[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_41]！？[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_42]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment58_67]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment58_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment59_27]红胜定。竹谱变七。[/DhtmlXQ_comment59_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_36]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment60_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_19]第一局官和？||||原谱认为炮一平七可以弈成和局。||||该变全部诠注本都认为是黑胜。其它版本的主变着法略。基本上差不多。主要争论点在这步炮四平九的变化中。||||[FEN=9/3k5/9/9/9/9/9/9/3p1K3/1C7 b - - 1 36]百局第1局，和[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/3k5/5P3/5P3/3C5/9/9/2c6/4p4/3K1p3 w - - 4 22]朱蒋裘87年版本认为该变黑胜着法[/FEN]||||[FEN=4Ck3/4P4/9/9/9/9/9/2p6/3K1p3/9 b - - 6 31]董志新88年百局版本认为该变真和着法[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment61_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_20]此处黑方亦可改走車1进2||||弈聪注：车1进2？很多诠注本认为可走车1进2取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_23]古谱着法，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_38]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_26]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_32]黑不必演成着法循环的和局，而应走卒5平6。[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_30]这着进炮是本局正变的关键错着，从而失去了黑方取胜的良机。黑方应改走炮3平4。[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_46]如黑方改走炮5退2？则兵四进一！[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_50]双方不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_47]黑有两种应法[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_53]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_55]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_47]此时红方应走兵六平五，亦可兵六进一。[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76_60]大错！应改炮8平3催杀，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_71]百局第1局官和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_23]新着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_48]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment82_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment83_48]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment83_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment84_44]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment84_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment84_61]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment84_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment85_39]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment85_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment86_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment86_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_20]黑若车1进1同车1进2。[/DhtmlXQ_comment87_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_27][FEN=4k4/5P3/9/9/4C4/2B6/6P2/7c1/3p1p3/4K4 w - - 15 21]杨明忠版本中的黑胜着法[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment87_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_33]更佳，已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment87_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_45]和。黑平1可不变和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment88_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_39]不变和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment90_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment90_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment91_41]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment91_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment92_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment92_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment93_43]红已胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment93_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment93_71]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment93_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment94_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment94_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment95_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment95_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment96_15]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment96_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_21]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment98_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment98_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99_10]红无杀，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment99_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment100_9]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment100_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_13]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment101_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment102_13]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment102_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment103_7]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment103_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment104_9]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment104_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment105_12]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment105_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment105_14]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment105_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment106_8]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment106_8]
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先发一下我的拆解，共同探讨。

作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2018-9-30 02:26
最后局面是极象鸿雁局。

作者: yjr123 时间: 2018-9-30 12:09
正解应该是和棋，但着法还有问题。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]该局排局界黑胜好象已是定论。在87年版的朱蒋裘版本中为和棋结论，在90年代后就成了黑胜了。包括朱鹤洲再版的。||论坛中关于该局的地址：||<a href\u003D\u0022<a href\u003D\u0022http://www.hychess.com/forum.php\u0022 target\u003D\u0022_blank\u0022>http://www.hychess.com/forum.php</a>\u003Fmod\u003Dviewthread\u0026tid\u003D254867\u0026extra\u003Dpage%3D1\u0022 target\u003D\u0022_blank\u0022>http://www.hychess.com/forum.php ... \u0026extra\u003Dpage%3D1</a>||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p6C/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 13 17]本人认为可和着法红变招处[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/5P3/9/9/4c1b2/6B2/4C4/9/4p4/3K5 b - - 0 28]本人认为可和着法2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D2b1k3C/9/r4RP2/9/9/9/p5P2/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 w - - 0 9]百局变招分支处[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/3k5/9/9/9/9/9/9/3p1K3/1C7 b - - 1 36]百局第1局，和[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/4PP3/3C5/2b6/9/9/4p4/5p3/4K2c1 w - - 0 21]百局第2局，黑胜[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/3P1P3/9/9/2b6/9/3C5/4B4/4p4/3K1p3 w - - 1 31]白周版本黑胜主变[/FEN]||||发现黑胜着法主要为：黑卒能有机会走到红帅九宫处，一种胜法是黑卒走到红士角位置时红相来不及飞直接被黑卒吃掉了，另一种是黑卒走到红方二路线，控制住了红帅的活动，之后黑炮移到红方左侧成杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3]兼攻带守的着法。一面闪开炮路，伏沉底炮杀；一面防黑卒平3（弃卒吸引），相五退七，車6平4的杀着或炮2进9后車1平4的杀着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6]先手除去红方底兵，暗伏車1平4的杀着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12]升車保象，一着两用，暗伏車1平4的杀着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]弃車引象，解除黑車1平4的杀着威胁。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18]以下原谱列出两局变化[/DhtmlXQ_comment18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19]第二局||||||该局是否是黑胜和和棋的结论主要看这路变化。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/4PP3/3C5/2b6/9/9/4p4/5p3/4K2c1 w - - 0 21]百局第2局，黑胜[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/3k1P3/9/9/2b6/3C5/3p5/4B4/3K1p3/9 w - - 7 23]朱蒋裘87年版本认为该变和棋着法[/FEN]||||徐家亮，苏德龙87年百局版本为原谱黑胜着法，之后再版的也未更改。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/9/b3P4/9/4C1P2/9/9/9/4pp3/3K3c1 w - - 2 18]董志新88年百局版本认为该变黑胜着法1（另一胜法为原谱胜法）[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/3k1P3/2P6/9/2b6/3C5/9/4B4/4p4/1c1p1K3 w - - 44 32]朱鹤洲99年版的江湖排局集成中诠为黑胜着法[/FEN]||||杨明忠版为黑胜为原谱着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_24]原谱着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_58]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_31]弈聪注：这步进兵感觉有问题，不进兵更利于防守，炮可在兵前打卒的机会且炮可在该线左右移动。可动炮走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_33]新招[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_35]弈聪注：守和的关键点，不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相，红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着，或用炮拦黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_39]和？||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_47]黑一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_65]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_37]？可能有问题。||||走闲着。红中兵未拱下去时更好。这样炮可再进一步，利于左右移动。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_43]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_40]黑卒拱下去即和。||||黑另一种胜法是黑炮能否回到中路进攻。这样的话上步红炮进一较好，可拦黑炮，但黑炮可回打红兵，拦不住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_53]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]飞相关键。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_33]？刊注着法，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_39]？可否平移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_41]之前飞相的话这步黑卒走下来后能有机会平炮打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_45][FEN\u003D5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment11_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_49]红一将一杀，必须变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_45]下同主变。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment21_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_33]弈聪注：原谱着法，黑胜。这步棋看不出它的作用。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_42]百局第2局红车杀黑车，劣着，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_33]新招。同帅六平五原理一样。在黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相均可。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_27]劣。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_38]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_46]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]亦和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_34]败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_37]错失胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_43]和。竹谱变九。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_27]以下黑有三种应着均难逃败北下場。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_41]红胜。竹谱变八。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_51]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_31]红胜。竹谱变十一。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_35]红胜定。竹谱变十二。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_52]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]新变！[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_57]不变作和！[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_50]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_50]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_57]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment107_51]亦可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment107_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_41]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_42]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_47]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_51]这样黑不利！[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_41]！？[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_42]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment58_67]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment58_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment59_27]红胜定。竹谱变七。[/DhtmlXQ_comment59_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_36]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment60_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_19]第一局官和？||||原谱认为炮一平七可以弈成和局。||||该变全部诠注本都认为是黑胜。其它版本的主变着法略。基本上差不多。主要争论点在这步炮四平九的变化中。||||[FEN\u003D9/3k5/9/9/9/9/9/9/3p1K3/1C7 b - - 1 36]百局第1局，和[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/3k5/5P3/5P3/3C5/9/9/2c6/4p4/3K1p3 w - - 4 22]朱蒋裘87年版本认为该变黑胜着法[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4Ck3/4P4/9/9/9/9/9/2p6/3K1p3/9 b - - 6 31]董志新88年百局版本认为该变真和着法[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment61_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_20]此处黑方亦可改走車1进2||||弈聪注：车1进2？很多诠注本认为可走车1进2取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_23]古谱着法，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_38]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_26]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_32]黑不必演成着法循环的和局，而应走卒5平6。[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_30]这着进炮是本局正变的关键错着，从而失去了黑方取胜的良机。黑方应改走炮3平4。[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_46]如黑方改走炮5退2？则兵四进一！[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_50]双方不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_47]黑有两种应法[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_53]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_55]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_47]此时红方应走兵六平五，亦可兵六进一。[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76_60]大错！应改炮8平3催杀，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_71]百局第1局官和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_23]新着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_48]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment82_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment83_48]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment83_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment84_44]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment84_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment84_61]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment84_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment85_39]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment85_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment86_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment86_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_20]黑若车1进1同车1进2。[/DhtmlXQ_comment87_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_27][FEN\u003D4k4/5P3/9/9/4C4/2B6/6P2/7c1/3p1p3/4K4 w - - 15 21]杨明忠版本中的黑胜着法[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment87_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_33]更佳，已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment87_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_45]和。黑平1可不变和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment88_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_39]不变和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment90_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment90_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment91_41]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment91_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment92_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment92_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment93_43]红已胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment93_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment93_71]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment93_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment94_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment94_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment95_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment95_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment96_15]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment96_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_21]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment98_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment98_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99_10]红无杀，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment99_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment100_9]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment100_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_13]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment101_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment102_13]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment102_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment103_7]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment103_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment104_9]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment104_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment105_12]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment105_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment105_14]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment105_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment106_8]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment106_8]
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作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2018-9-30 15:17
本帖最后由 chouzhouyu 于 2018-9-30 15:39 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]原先拆解到第20回合，现接下去拆解。||||现删去所有旁支变化。免得什么地方改动也不知道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]和？||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会，之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路，黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79]应该已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_45]
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作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2018-9-30 15:43
yjr123提出的那路变化确实为黑胜。看样子红方只能前面想办法变招了。

作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2018-9-30 16:20
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0][FEN=3k5/4C4/b2P5/1c7/5P3/6B2/9/9/3p1p3/4K4 w - - 24 22]yjr123诠的一路黑可胜变化（原和）[/FEN]||||黑12回合走炮8退3开始变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]新变！||||原谱走炮8进3也能复杂。现删去。||||从这局面开始拆解。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]先动这兵再平四使红炮有机会打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]红还是打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_38]黑不进卒的话只能退炮或走闲。||||进卒后黑只能从红两侧进攻取胜。红炮可长拦。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_69]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_64]这样黑反而不利。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_77]红已胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]黑先将军后进卒了，前面红前兵可否先不走（14或15回合），这样红炮这步就有机会打黑卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_41]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_44]yjr123提出。||||以下经拆解应为黑胜。红只能前面变招了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_74]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_74]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_51]亦可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_41]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_42]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_47]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_51]这样黑不利！[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_41]！？[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_42]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_42]
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2018-10-2 07:51

chouzhouyu 发表于 2018-9-30 15:17

这样如何？

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]原先拆解到第20回合，现接下去拆解。||||现删去所有旁支变化。免得什么地方改动也不知道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]和？||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会，之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路，黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_79]应该已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_45]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment44]这样如何？[/DhtmlXQ_comment44]
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作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2018-10-2 12:11
本帖最后由 chouzhouyu 于 2018-10-2 12:39 编辑

聨吟客发表于 2018-9-30 00:04
這樣如何?

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[DhtmlXQ_title]第05局三气周瑜（三楼着法拆解）[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0][FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p6cC/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 3 12]心谱分支处[/FEN]||||[FEN=2b1k4/9/4P4/9/2P6/9/9/4B4/3c1p3/2p1K4 w - - 2 29]心谱认为黑胜着法/心谱第5变红变亦黑胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24][FEN=9/4P4/3k5/4c4/2b6/2B6/9/9/3Cp4/5K3 w - - 0 33]心谱1本佯和局。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28]红可和。||||还不如第12回合直接炮8进3。此时红炮在黑方卒线的位置要好于在红方兵线的位置。相当于在相似局面中让红方多走了一步。||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/5p3/3K3c1 w - - 6 13]相似局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40][FEN=9/4k4/b4P3/5C3/5P3/6B2/9/3p5/6p2/5Kc2 w - - 22 21]相似局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]可相三退一复杂一点，红方有优势。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_31]可进后兵再平四打卒。帅居中不急。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_33]这步是真正的败着。||||再平兵打卒，与这步先进后兵再平四打卒步数一样。但红炮在卒线再飞相至三路多了一个炮平三打黑7路卒的棋。（平前兵打卒以后是前兵平五挡将才能飞相，被黑象一飞只能又平移，红没机会飞相，走后兵可后兵平五再飞相用相当炮架守三路线）||||[FEN=4k4/5C3/b5P2/9/9/6P2/2p6/4B4/5p3/4K2c1 b - - 13 17]相同局面，黑可胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment2_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_38]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_34]先复制过来。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]上步走炮四进二时。黑方应以炮8退9取胜。||||现黑方应以同样的招法看一下区别。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_35]上步炮四进二时，这步平四刚好打黑卒，黑只能卒6平7。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_39]与17回合炮四进二时的区别。||||下步黑应以卒3进1时碰到红一将一杀了，待拆解。||这样的话第16回合红只能变招了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_49]红好象是一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_40]除此其它也没好招。改走其它，可能只是走子顺序不同而已。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_46]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_40]和？下未折解略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_44]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_42]||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/5C3/5P3/6B2/9/3p5/6p2/5Kc2 w - - 20 20]相似局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment14_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_43]可炮四平三，见相似局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_53]不让黑卒占心，黑要杀只能运炮到红方左侧，这样红胜机会反而大一点。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_62]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_30]黑若再退炮白走了。不走这步，只能平卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_43]走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_51]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_89]即可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_89]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_28]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_33]先帅平中再想打法赶卒，黑进卒吃红相还是快了一步。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_40]黑已胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_51]红无子可动。只能动该兵，其它三子没法动。平三也一样。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_68]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_27]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_53]双方不变，纷和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_66]心谱1本佯和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_64]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_51]心谱2变黑变亦佯和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_27]暂定为和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_24][FEN=2b1k4/9/4P4/9/2P6/9/9/4B4/3c1p3/2p1K4 w - - 2 29]心谱第5变红变亦黑胜。[/FEN]||||[FEN=2b1k4/5P2c/9/3P5/9/9/9/4B4/4K4/9 b - - 6 28]竹谱1本和。[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/3P1P3/9/9/2b6/9/3C5/4B4/4p4/3K1p3 w - - 1 31]白周14年版心谱黑胜着法。[/FEN]||||||陈广仁的街头象棋残局中有一则修改局（原谱也认为黑胜），把红三兵前移一步。此时应由黑方先走，则该路变化为黑胜（修改局此时红炮应在一0位，无上一回合的交换，若回到这一位置，相当于下步还是黑走）||||[FEN=4k3C/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p8/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 w - - 8 14]附陈广仁三气周下瑜修改局着法。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment32_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_28]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_30]蒋朱裘版本下回合走炮一平五，和。||||14、15回合黑走子顺序可调换一下。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_43]走闲着，不到中间将，不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后，红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_46]这局势对红不利，红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_35]炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment39_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_33]黑胜。||||该着应该是90年代左右出版的诠注本中的诠正着法，原谱走炮一平六成黑胜。诠正着法后以下通过黑主动兑子成和。10年以后（00年以后再版的还是以和棋为主，朱鹤洲中的江湖排局集成应该是最先诠为黑胜的）黑发现可以把炮移到红方左侧成杀。这应该是该局现被认定为黑胜的原因。||||黑炮在红方底线尽量不要去平中，在一二路线守住黑方的高卒就行，有退炮和拦黑炮的机会。||||该着出现的时机也可能在其它回合，其原理基本上差不多。||||炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment40_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_42]此时红炮在1/2路就好了。可直接退炮打卒，往上推第17回合是否有问题？[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_46]！||||蒋朱裘版本此时走卒4平5兑子（黑飞相略有不同）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_33]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_31]黑胜。||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN]||||炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment54_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_46]诠正着法，黑胜。||||白周版本此时黑变招走该着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_31]心谱原谱着法。||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p1C5/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment57_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment58_28]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment58_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment58_31]黑胜。||||[FEN=2b1k4/5P2c/9/3P5/9/9/9/4B4/4K4/9 b - - 6 28]蒋朱裘90年版心谱刊注着法，和。[/FEN]||||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN]||||炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment58_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment58_46]诠正着法，黑胜。||||白周版本此时黑变招走该着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment58_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment59_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment59_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_31]败着。||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p1C5/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment61_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_58]心谱第5变红变亦黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_52]心谱第4变黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_54]4、6路同时叫杀，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_27]黑胜。||||[FEN=9/3k1P3/9/3C5/2b6/9/3p5/4B4/3K1p3/9 b - - 12 26]蒋朱裘90年版心谱刊注着法，和。[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/5P3/b8/9/9/6B2/4p4/8C/5p3/3K5 b - - 4 22]竹谱变九，和。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment67_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_31]炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment67_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_70]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_30]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_46]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76_51]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_43]竹谱变九，和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_26]红胜。||||[FEN=5k3/4P4/b4P3/9/9/9/3p1c3/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 3 21]竹谱变八，红胜。[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/4k4/b4P3/9/5P3/9/2p1C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 11 16]竹谱变十一，红胜。[/FEN]||||[FEN=2b2k3/4P4/9/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 15 18]竹谱变十二，红胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment81_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_51]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_41]竹谱变八，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment82_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment83_31]竹谱变十一，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment83_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment84_35]竹谱变十二，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment84_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment85_25]黑胜。||||[FEN=4k4/9/b4c3/9/6P2/9/3p5/4B4/5C3/4K4 b - - 1 19]杨明忠03年版心谱刊注着法，和。[/FEN]||||||||炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment85_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment85_26]让红多走一步炮五进三即成相似局面。||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/4C4/9/6P2/p8/4B4/5p3/3K3c1 w - - 8 14]相似局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment85_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment85_27]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment85_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment85_31][FEN=4k4/5C3/b5P2/9/9/6P2/2p6/4B4/5p3/4K2c1 b - - 13 17]相同局面，黑胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment85_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment85_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment85_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment90_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment90_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment92_31]红再回到一二路线，已白白损失步数。||||黑为了防止红兵往中间走，黑宫心卒即使红炮不打，也会移到6路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment92_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment92_35]红相也飞不了。不动兵只能动炮走闲着。后兵能移到中间就好了。往上推应该是第13步炮一平五损失步数了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment92_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment92_39]拦炮就进卒，二头顾不了。走其它闲着黑炮也平中将。[/DhtmlXQ_comment92_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment92_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment92_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment93_28]陈广仁把三气周瑜的红后兵前移一步，形成该局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment93_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment93_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment93_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment94_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment94_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment95_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment95_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment96_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment96_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_31]进后兵挡中路来不及。只能平中炮。这是与三气周瑜原局的区别。[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment98_36]黑下步即杀，飞相来不及。[/DhtmlXQ_comment98_36]
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作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2018-10-2 12:33
yjr123提出的着法很尖锐，使我看到红两兵无法保住。先提出一些想法，一下子不好拆解，留后再拆。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]原先拆解到第20回合，现接下去拆解。||||现删去所有旁支变化。免得什么地方改动也不知道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]和？好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会，之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注：该局面黑将再进一步后，红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉，红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门，已无法动了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44]这样如何？||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步，要平在四路才有用（黑炮在6路无法平）。第19回合红无法变招，||||||另一思路是红后兵不进，用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线，看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路，黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_79]应该已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]
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作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2018-10-2 12:43
搞不好这局还真是黑胜。这局和鸿雁局相比。黑多了一个象，红少了一个相，红防守难度比鸿雁局大多了。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-10-2 14:20
所以蔣朱裘三人詮注本的和法也不正確了

太複雜看得眼花撩亂

期待最終有高人整理出雙方最正確的走法與結論

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-10-2 14:41
淵深海闊的三氣周瑜多邊相
和法精彩
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[DhtmlXQ_comment48]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_38]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_31]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_33]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_33]
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作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2018-10-2 17:16
渊谱的增相局至残局真可以说是鸿雁局了。子力和鸿雁局一模一样了。

作者: yjr123 时间: 2018-10-2 17:24

聨吟客发表于 2018-10-2 14:41
淵深海闊的三氣周瑜多邊相
和法精彩

这样有棋吗？

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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_48]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_38]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_31]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_33]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]这样有棋吗？[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
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作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2018-10-2 18:52
本帖最后由 chouzhouyu 于 2018-10-2 19:06 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]删去所有旁支变化，最后会发一个汇总贴。||||暂发论坛，还未详细拆解。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN=4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN]，目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位，防止黑方的二鬼拍门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]从这里开始细拆解。或从第14回合开始，看黑能否变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40]这步若卒6平5，应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮，最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]这局面红能否走成？||这局面红能否守和？[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]弈聪注：守和的关键点，不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相，红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着，或用炮拦黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]和？好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会，之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注：该局面黑将再进一步后，红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉，红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门，已无法动了。||||分析：此时红前兵若再退后一步（19步红可不进兵，其它局面也很容易解决）？红炮若已在二路线呢？两种办法解决：1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN=2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将，之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位，红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮，慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_43]走闲着，先不到中间将，让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后，我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_44]这样如何？||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步，要平在四路才有用（黑炮在6路无法平）。第19回合红无法变招，||||||另一思路是红后兵不进，用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线，看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]这局势对红不利，红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路，黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的，可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_28]黑胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_37]和？形成相同局面[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_37]
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作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2018-10-2 19:14
上面所发应该可以和了。

作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2018-10-2 19:20
红炮已走到最佳位，动炮走闲即可。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-10-2 19:38
淵譜的局面被某些包括竹譜詮注本當修改局

都沒有提到先平卒這一步

我還未研究

有請ch 先生也研究研究

作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2018-10-3 00:43
渊谱最后残局应该是红主动一点。卒1平2感觉最终还是和棋。

作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2018-10-3 00:57
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]分类:双车单炮类||竹谱三20局山气横秋,神妙34局十八临潼,心谱74局钩衡驾马,渊谱25局三气周瑜,百局5局三气周瑜.||||注解合并：||上局“三气周瑜”局，演变结果成为黑胜。如于红方一.三位加一红相，成为本图棋势，那就是《渊深海阔象棋谱》第25局“三气周瑜”，结果可以弈成和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]这样有棋吗？[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]目的是弃炮后两卒能不能杀。||||不弃炮可以退其它地方较好一点。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26]弃炮两个卒红一个炮可守住。||||黑不弃炮前面就要变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]红走到这步，红炮随时可以在兵前把黑卒赶走。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_26]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_31]红不利，黑要负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_24]和原先主变差不别，只是次序改一下。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_25]同主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_48]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_33]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_33]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]红方无法形成“双鬼拍门”的入局棋形，和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_59]和.[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_30]平炮塞相眼，获胜要着[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_46]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_42]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_52]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_50]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_39]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_27]双方不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_31]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_19]从结尾看好象是黑胜，少一相的三气周瑜该变为和，这路变化也应该和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_38]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_30]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_23]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_21]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_13]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_11]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_11]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-10-3 05:21
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2018-10-3 05:48 编辑

chouzhouyu 发表于 2018-10-2 18:52

好像還有問題?
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]删去所有旁支变化，最后会发一个汇总贴。||||暂发论坛，还未详细拆解。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN]，目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位，防止黑方的二鬼拍门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]从这里开始细拆解。或从第14回合开始，看黑能否变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40]这步若卒6平5，应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮，最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]这局面红能否走成？||这局面红能否守和？[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]弈聪注：守和的关键点，不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相，红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着，或用炮拦黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]和？好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会，之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注：该局面黑将再进一步后，红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉，红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门，已无法动了。||||分析：此时红前兵若再退后一步（19步红可不进兵，其它局面也很容易解决）？红炮若已在二路线呢？两种办法解决：1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将，之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位，红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮，慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_43]走闲着，先不到中间将，让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后，我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_44]这样如何？||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步，要平在四路才有用（黑炮在6路无法平）。第19回合红无法变招，||||||另一思路是红后兵不进，用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线，看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]这局势对红不利，红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路，黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的，可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_28]黑胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_37]和？形成相同局面[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_37]
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2018-10-3 09:13

聨吟客发表于 2018-10-3 05:21
好像還有問題?

第25回合红应炮八平五仍和，第21回合黑炮6平9，如红仍然用炮走闲着则负。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-10-3 12:01
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-10-3 12:07
17回合進象如何
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]删去所有旁支变化，最后会发一个汇总贴。||||暂发论坛，还未详细拆解。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN]，目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位，防止黑方的二鬼拍门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_39]从这里开始细拆解。或从第14回合开始，看黑能否变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_40]这步若卒6平5，应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮，最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_41]这局面红能否走成？||这局面红能否守和？[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]弈聪注：守和的关键点，不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相，红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着，或用炮拦黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]和？好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会，之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注：该局面黑将再进一步后，红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉，红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门，已无法动了。||||分析：此时红前兵若再退后一步（19步红可不进兵，其它局面也很容易解决）？红炮若已在二路线呢？两种办法解决：1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将，之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位，红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮，慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_43]走闲着，先不到中间将，让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后，我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_44]这样如何？||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步，要平在四路才有用（黑炮在6路无法平）。第19回合红无法变招，||||||另一思路是红后兵不进，用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线，看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]这局势对红不利，红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路，黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的，可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_28]黑胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_37]和？形成相同局面[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_37]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment19_64]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_49]||還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34] 有不同變化否[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-10-3 12:14
仍黑勝?
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]删去所有旁支变化，最后会发一个汇总贴。||||暂发论坛，还未详细拆解。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN]，目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位，防止黑方的二鬼拍门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]从这里开始细拆解。或从第14回合开始，看黑能否变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40]这步若卒6平5，应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮，最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]这局面红能否走成？||这局面红能否守和？[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]弈聪注：守和的关键点，不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相，红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着，或用炮拦黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]和？好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会，之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注：该局面黑将再进一步后，红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉，红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门，已无法动了。||||分析：此时红前兵若再退后一步（19步红可不进兵，其它局面也很容易解决）？红炮若已在二路线呢？两种办法解决：1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将，之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位，红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮，慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_43]走闲着，先不到中间将，让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后，我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_44]这样如何？||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步，要平在四路才有用（黑炮在6路无法平）。第19回合红无法变招，||||||另一思路是红后兵不进，用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线，看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]这局势对红不利，红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路，黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的，可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_28]黑胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_37]和？形成相同局面[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_37]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_64]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_49]||還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_49]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-10-3 12:22
可能要在23或24回合提前炮平五?

另17回合黑進象又有何異呢?

太複雜

作者: 邢春波 时间: 2018-10-3 20:44

聨吟客发表于 2018-10-3 12:14
仍黑勝?

..这样走好像是和局

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]删去所有旁支变化，最后会发一个汇总贴。||||暂发论坛，还未详细拆解。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN]，目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位，防止黑方的二鬼拍门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]从这里开始细拆解。或从第14回合开始，看黑能否变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40]这步若卒6平5，应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮，最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]这局面红能否走成？||这局面红能否守和？[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]弈聪注：守和的关键点，不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相，红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着，或用炮拦黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]和？好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会，之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注：该局面黑将再进一步后，红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉，红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门，已无法动了。||||分析：此时红前兵若再退后一步（19步红可不进兵，其它局面也很容易解决）？红炮若已在二路线呢？两种办法解决：1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将，之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位，红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮，慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_43]走闲着，先不到中间将，让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后，我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_44]这样如何？||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步，要平在四路才有用（黑炮在6路无法平）。第19回合红无法变招，||||||另一思路是红后兵不进，用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线，看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]这局势对红不利，红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路，黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的，可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_28]黑胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_37]和？形成相同局面[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_37]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_64]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_49]||還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_49]
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作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2018-10-3 20:51
本帖最后由 chouzhouyu 于 2018-10-3 21:20 编辑

发贴后发现楼上也想到了这路变化，编辑一下。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]删去所有旁支变化，最后会发一个汇总贴。||||暂发论坛，还未详细拆解。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN=4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN]，目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位，防止黑方的二鬼拍门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]诠正着法||||从这里开始细拆解。或从第14回合开始，看黑能否变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40]这步若卒6平5，应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮，最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]这局面红能否走成？||这局面红能否守和？||||拆解时参考用：||||第25回合红应炮八平五仍和，第21回合黑炮6平9，如红仍然用炮走闲着则负。||||可能要在23或24回合提前炮平五?[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42][FEN=2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]暂拆解出的该路和棋主变着法？[/FEN]，[/DhtmlXQ_comment42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46]有步黑炮平7路再退一逼兑红炮的棋。黑是否可行。可行的话又成黑胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50]这步黑有否变招余地。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52]目的是黑卒下步平中做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53]诠正着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_54]另一论友也拆解到这一路变化中，后经 yjr123指出，红还可胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_59]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_55]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_63]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_64]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_60]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_54]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_52]再退炮想办法灭兵。||||红两兵换一象，应和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]红优。应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_56]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_53]劣。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_61]另一红兵也被灭，[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_57]和还是黑负？黑方是一打兵一杀吧。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_46]拆解为和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_51]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_45]直接将拆解还是不行，可能还是要继续走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_51]红是一将一捉吧。若是再平炮走闲着，还是回到前面的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_57]一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_62]暂到此。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_49]||還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_34]有不同變化否||||黑象当炮架，黑炮可打红相。红相以后会飞至七路，除此飞上或飞下无多大关系，防止黑卒走中象位。可能略有不同。现拆解另一路是否可和再拆解该路不迟。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_41]黑象位置不同。||||黑炮先打红相可行吗？[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_35]弈聪注：守和的关键点，不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相，红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着，或用炮拦黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_39]和？好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会，之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注：该局面黑将再进一步后，红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉，红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门，已无法动了。||||分析：此时红前兵若再退后一步（19步红可不进兵，其它局面也很容易解决）？红炮若已在二路线呢？两种办法解决：1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN=2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将，之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位，红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮，慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_43]走闲着，先不到中间将，让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后，我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_44]这样如何？||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步，要平在四路才有用（黑炮在6路无法平）。第19回合红无法变招，||||||另一思路是红后兵不进，用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线，看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_46]这局势对红不利，红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路，黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的，可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_28]下会走成相同局面，暂删去。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_28]
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2018-10-3 20:59

邢春波发表于 2018-10-3 20:44
..这样走好像是和局

出现大漏

作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2018-10-3 21:07
和各位拆解到一路中去了，

作者: yjr123 时间: 2018-10-3 21:10

chouzhouyu 发表于 2018-10-3 20:51

修正一个结论

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]删去所有旁支变化，最后会发一个汇总贴。||||暂发论坛，还未详细拆解。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN]，目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位，防止黑方的二鬼拍门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]诠正着法||||从这里开始细拆解。或从第14回合开始，看黑能否变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40]这步若卒6平5，应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮，最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]这局面红能否走成？||这局面红能否守和？||||拆解时参考用：||||第25回合红应炮八平五仍和，第21回合黑炮6平9，如红仍然用炮走闲着则负。||||可能要在23或24回合提前炮平五\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42][FEN\u003D2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]暂拆解出的该路和棋主变着法？[/FEN]，[/DhtmlXQ_comment42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46]有步黑炮平7路再退一逼兑红炮的棋。黑是否可行。可行的话又成黑胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50]这步黑有否变招余地。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52]目的是黑卒下步平中做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_53]诠正着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_66]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_55]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_63]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_64]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_60]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_52]再退炮想办法灭兵。||||红两兵换一象，应和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_53]红优。应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_57]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_56]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_53]劣。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_61]另一红兵也被灭，[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_57]和还是黑负？黑方是一打兵一杀吧。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_46]拆解为和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_51]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_45]直接将拆解还是不行，可能还是要继续走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_51]红是一将一捉吧。若是再平炮走闲着，还是回到前面的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_57]一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_62]暂到此。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_49]||還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_34]有不同變化否||||黑象当炮架，黑炮可打红相。红相以后会飞至七路，防止黑卒走中象位。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_35]弈聪注：守和的关键点，不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相，红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着，或用炮拦黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_39]和？好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会，之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注：该局面黑将再进一步后，红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉，红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门，已无法动了。||||分析：此时红前兵若再退后一步（19步红可不进兵，其它局面也很容易解决）？红炮若已在二路线呢？两种办法解决：1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将，之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位，红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮，慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_43]走闲着，先不到中间将，让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后，我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_44]这样如何？||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步，要平在四路才有用（黑炮在6路无法平）。第19回合红无法变招，||||||另一思路是红后兵不进，用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线，看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_46]这局势对红不利，红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路，黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的，可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_28]黑胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_37]和？形成相同局面[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_37]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment55]仍然和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment55]
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作者: 邢春波 时间: 2018-10-3 21:18

yjr123 发表于 2018-10-3 21:10
修正一个结论

17回合黑进象，这个变化是黒胜

作者: 邢春波 时间: 2018-10-3 21:25

yjr123 发表于 2018-10-3 20:59
出现大漏

28回合，黑应先进象

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]删去所有旁支变化，最后会发一个汇总贴。||||暂发论坛，还未详细拆解。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN]，目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位，防止黑方的二鬼拍门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]从这里开始细拆解。或从第14回合开始，看黑能否变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40]这步若卒6平5，应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮，最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]这局面红能否走成？||这局面红能否守和？[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]弈聪注：守和的关键点，不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相，红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着，或用炮拦黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]和？好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会，之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注：该局面黑将再进一步后，红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉，红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门，已无法动了。||||分析：此时红前兵若再退后一步（19步红可不进兵，其它局面也很容易解决）？红炮若已在二路线呢？两种办法解决：1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将，之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位，红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮，慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_43]走闲着，先不到中间将，让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后，我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_44]这样如何？||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步，要平在四路才有用（黑炮在6路无法平）。第19回合红无法变招，||||||另一思路是红后兵不进，用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线，看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]这局势对红不利，红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路，黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的，可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_28]黑胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_37]和？形成相同局面[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_37]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_64]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_49]||還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_49]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment70]||||和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment70]
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作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2018-10-3 21:31
感觉变化越来越多了。

作者: 邢春波 时间: 2018-10-3 21:32

yjr123 发表于 2018-10-3 20:59
出现大漏

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[DhtmlXQ_comment24_37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN]，目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位，防止黑方的二鬼拍门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_39]从这里开始细拆解。或从第14回合开始，看黑能否变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_40]这步若卒6平5，应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮，最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_41]这局面红能否走成？||这局面红能否守和？[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]弈聪注：守和的关键点，不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相，红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着，或用炮拦黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]和？好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会，之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注：该局面黑将再进一步后，红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉，红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门，已无法动了。||||分析：此时红前兵若再退后一步（19步红可不进兵，其它局面也很容易解决）？红炮若已在二路线呢？两种办法解决：1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将，之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位，红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮，慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_43]走闲着，先不到中间将，让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后，我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_44]这样如何？||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步，要平在四路才有用（黑炮在6路无法平）。第19回合红无法变招，||||||另一思路是红后兵不进，用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线，看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]这局势对红不利，红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路，黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的，可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_28]黑胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_37]和？形成相同局面[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_37]
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作者: 邢春波 时间: 2018-10-3 21:34
这样和棋

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[DhtmlXQ_comment34]||黑飞高象[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43]要着[/DhtmlXQ_comment43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62]不变和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN]，目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位，防止黑方的二鬼拍门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_39]从这里开始细拆解。或从第14回合开始，看黑能否变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_40]这步若卒6平5，应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮，最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]这局面红能否走成？||这局面红能否守和？[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_70]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]弈聪注：守和的关键点，不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相，红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着，或用炮拦黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]和？好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会，之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注：该局面黑将再进一步后，红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉，红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门，已无法动了。||||分析：此时红前兵若再退后一步（19步红可不进兵，其它局面也很容易解决）？红炮若已在二路线呢？两种办法解决：1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将，之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位，红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮，慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_43]走闲着，先不到中间将，让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后，我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_44]这样如何？||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步，要平在四路才有用（黑炮在6路无法平）。第19回合红无法变招，||||||另一思路是红后兵不进，用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线，看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_46]这局势对红不利，红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路，黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的，可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_28]黑胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_37]和？形成相同局面[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_37]
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2018-10-3 21:37

邢春波发表于 2018-10-3 21:18
17回合黑进象，这个变化是黒胜

没有看懂

作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2018-10-3 21:47
查看了一下我最初的拆解原谱，发现黑是有退象和进象两种着法。是根据多种诠注本录入的。

开始未去注意，经论友提醒，好象是有点区别。

作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2018-10-3 21:53
第16回合红方炮一平五时是退象，兵五进一时是进象。

作者: yjr123 时间: 2018-10-3 21:56

邢春波发表于 2018-10-3 21:34
这样和棋

第22回合兵三进一应是黑胜，可以走炮七平五和棋。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment34]||黑飞高象[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_43]要着[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_62]不变和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN]，目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位，防止黑方的二鬼拍门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_39]从这里开始细拆解。或从第14回合开始，看黑能否变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_40]这步若卒6平5，应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮，最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]这局面红能否走成？||这局面红能否守和？[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_70]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]弈聪注：守和的关键点，不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相，红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着，或用炮拦黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]和？好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会，之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注：该局面黑将再进一步后，红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉，红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门，已无法动了。||||分析：此时红前兵若再退后一步（19步红可不进兵，其它局面也很容易解决）？红炮若已在二路线呢？两种办法解决：1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将，之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位，红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮，慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_43]走闲着，先不到中间将，让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后，我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_44]这样如何？||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步，要平在四路才有用（黑炮在6路无法平）。第19回合红无法变招，||||||另一思路是红后兵不进，用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线，看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_46]这局势对红不利，红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路，黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的，可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_28]黑胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_37]和？形成相同局面[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_37]
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作者: 邢春波 时间: 2018-10-3 22:14

yjr123 发表于 2018-10-3 21:56
第22回合兵三进一应是黑胜，可以走炮七平五和棋。

21回合红改走炮五平八

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[DhtmlXQ_comment34]||黑飞高象[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_43]要着[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_62]不变和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN]，目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位，防止黑方的二鬼拍门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_39]从这里开始细拆解。或从第14回合开始，看黑能否变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_40]这步若卒6平5，应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮，最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]这局面红能否走成？||这局面红能否守和？[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_70]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]弈聪注：守和的关键点，不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相，红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着，或用炮拦黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]和？好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会，之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注：该局面黑将再进一步后，红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉，红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门，已无法动了。||||分析：此时红前兵若再退后一步（19步红可不进兵，其它局面也很容易解决）？红炮若已在二路线呢？两种办法解决：1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将，之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位，红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮，慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_43]走闲着，先不到中间将，让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后，我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_44]这样如何？||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步，要平在四路才有用（黑炮在6路无法平）。第19回合红无法变招，||||||另一思路是红后兵不进，用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线，看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_46]这局势对红不利，红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路，黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的，可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_28]黑胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_37]和？形成相同局面[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_37]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment16_43]这样可以和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_44]可能黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53]||||||和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment53]
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作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2018-10-3 22:17
第17回合象1进3有相同局面，我最早发的贴子中应该有。原先是作为黑胜的。因我原先的拆解那路变化最后发现还是黑胜后。想有什么办法把炮移到九二位最佳防守位，才想到了炮五退二再平移的变化。在相同局面中这路变化其实也未拆解。

作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2018-10-3 22:31
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]删去所有旁支变化，最后会发一个汇总贴。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34]有不同變化否||||黑象当炮架，黑炮可打红相。红相以后会飞至七路，除此飞上或飞下无多大关系，防止黑卒走中象位。可能略有不同。现拆解另一路是否可和再拆解该路不迟。||||||[FEN=5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 14 17]相同局面[/FEN]||||||该局面有相同局面，开始未加注意。原先根据各诠注本录入作为黑胜。根据论友提醒，可能略有不同。后面走炮五退二再平炮五平九的是我后来想到了，在相同局面中还未有。先复制各诠注本的着法过来拆解参考。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]黑象位置不同。||||黑炮先打红相可行吗？[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]？黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]？可否平移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]之前飞相的话这步黑卒走下来后能有机会平炮打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_42]此时红炮在1/2路就好了。可直接退炮打卒，往上推第17回合是否有问题？[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_45][FEN=5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment1_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]！||||蒋朱裘版本此时走卒4平5兑子（黑飞相略有不同）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_49]红一将一杀，必须变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_45]下同主变。||||[FEN=5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN]||||以下再复制。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_46]！||||蒋朱裘版本此时走卒4平5兑子（黑飞相略有不同）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN=4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN]，目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位，防止黑方的二鬼拍门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_39]诠正着法||||从这里开始细拆解。或从第14回合开始，看黑能否变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_40]这步若卒6平5，应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮，最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_41]这局面红能否走成？||这局面红能否守和？||||拆解时参考用：||||第25回合红应炮八平五仍和，第21回合黑炮6平9，如红仍然用炮走闲着则负。||||可能要在23或24回合提前炮平五?[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_42][FEN=2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]暂拆解出的该路和棋主变着法？[/FEN]，[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_46]有步黑炮平7路再退一逼兑红炮的棋。黑是否可行。可行的话又成黑胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_50]这步黑有否变招余地。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_52]目的是黑卒下步平中做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_53]诠正着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_66]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_54]另一论友也拆解到这一路变化中，后经 yjr123指出，红还可胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_59]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_55]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_63]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_64]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_54]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_55]yjr123指出仍然和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_52]再退炮想办法灭兵。||||红两兵换一象，应和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_53]红优。应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_57]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_56]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_53]劣。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_61]另一红兵也被灭，[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_57]和还是黑负？黑方是一打兵一杀吧。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_46]拆解为和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_51]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_45]直接将拆解还是不行，可能还是要继续走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_51]红是一将一捉吧。若是再平炮走闲着，还是回到前面的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_57]一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_62]暂到此。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_49]||還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_35]弈聪注：守和的关键点，不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相，红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着，或用炮拦黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_39]和？好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会，之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注：该局面黑将再进一步后，红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉，红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门，已无法动了。||||分析：此时红前兵若再退后一步（19步红可不进兵，其它局面也很容易解决）？红炮若已在二路线呢？两种办法解决：1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN=2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将，之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位，红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮，慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_43]走闲着，先不到中间将，让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后，我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_44]这样如何？||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步，要平在四路才有用（黑炮在6路无法平）。第19回合红无法变招，||||||另一思路是红后兵不进，用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线，看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_46]这局势对红不利，红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路，黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的，可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_28]下会走成相同局面，暂删去。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_28]
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作者: 邢春波 时间: 2018-10-3 22:34

yjr123 发表于 2018-10-3 21:37
没有看懂

根据陈先生的着法走下去的没有研究前面

作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2018-10-3 23:07
象1进3和象1退3最后面步以同样的招法可行吗？

作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2018-10-4 20:55
本帖最后由 chouzhouyu 于 2018-10-5 19:18 编辑

特意汇总了一下，感觉应该差不多了。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]该局排局界黑胜好象已是定论。在87年版的朱蒋裘版本中为和棋结论，之后出版的诠注本陆续诠正为黑胜了。查我现有的资料应该是朱鹤洲的江湖排局集成最先诠为黑胜的。我当时计划拆解江湖四大排局名著时录到该局时，感觉黑胜中的着法有问题，曾在华工网中发贴求助，但反应不多，便没有继续拆解下去。后又发现竹香斋中的寒松卧壑有问题，在华工网中发贴后提及该局，由聊吟客发贴进行讨论，经yjr123提出一些看法，使我又继续拆解下去，现汇总各位论友的观点，把该局暂诠正为和局。也许有新的黑胜招法未发现。||||该局很多地方出现炮一平五的招法，原先以为是劣着，直接注明黑胜了，后发现可通过中炮退至帅前再平到左侧防止黑卒进到二路线，出现该招的地方有些可能还适用，特意汇总了一下。||||诠正着法：||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p6cC/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 3 12]诠正着法分支处[/FEN]||||[FEN=2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]诠正和棋着法1[/FEN]||||[FEN=2b1k4/5P3/9/4P4/9/2B6/9/3p5/4K1p2/9 w - - 8 26]诠正和棋着法2[/FEN]||||||汇总整理时发现一些变化待拆解：||[FEN=3k5/9/b2P5/3c5/5P3/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K4 b - - 21 21]待拆解[/FEN]||||||古谱和各诠注本部分着法如下：||[FEN=2b1k3C/9/r4RP2/9/9/9/p5P2/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 w - - 0 9]百局变招分支处[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/3k5/9/9/9/9/9/9/3p1K3/1C7 b - - 1 36]百局第1局，和[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/4PP3/3C5/2b6/9/9/4p4/5p3/4K2c1 w - - 0 21]百局第2局，黑胜[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/3P1P3/9/9/2b6/9/3C5/4B4/4p4/3K1p3 w - - 1 31]白周版本黑胜主变[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p6cC/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 3 12]心谱分支处[/FEN]||||[FEN=2b1k4/9/4P4/9/2P6/9/9/4B4/3c1p3/2p1K4 w - - 2 29]心谱认为黑胜着法/心谱第5变红变亦黑胜。[/FEN]||||||发现黑胜着法主要为：黑卒能有机会走到红帅九宫处，一种胜法是黑卒走到红士角位置时红相来不及飞直接被黑卒吃掉了，另一种是黑卒走到红方二路线，之后一卒定心，炮卒成杀。基于以上两点，拆解时，有机会就先飞相，另想有什么办法能使红炮走到二路线左铡防止黑卒进到二路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19]||该局是否是黑胜和和棋的结论主要看这路变化。||||[FEN=4k4/9/4PP3/3C5/2b6/9/9/4p4/5p3/4K2c1 w - - 0 21]百局第2局，黑胜[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/3k1P3/9/9/2b6/3C5/3p5/4B4/3K1p3/9 w - - 7 23]朱蒋裘87年版本认为该变和棋着法[/FEN]||||[FEN=5k3/9/b3P4/9/4C1P2/9/9/9/4pp3/3K3c1 w - - 2 18]董志新88年百局版本认为该变黑胜着法1（另一胜法为原谱胜法）[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/3k1P3/2P6/9/2b6/3C5/9/4B4/4p4/1c1p1K3 w - - 44 32]朱鹤洲99年版的江湖排局集成中诠为黑胜着法[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]以下有两种诠正着法（炮8退1和法为古谱着法，拆解着法差不多）[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24][FEN=2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]诠正和棋着法1[/FEN]||||||||古谱及各诠注本着法如下：||||[FEN=2b1k4/9/4P4/9/2P6/9/9/4B4/3c1p3/2p1K4 w - - 2 29]心谱第5变红变亦黑胜。[/FEN]||||[FEN=2b1k4/5P2c/9/3P5/9/9/9/4B4/4K4/9 b - - 6 28]竹谱1本和。[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/3P1P3/9/9/2b6/9/3C5/4B4/4p4/3K1p3 w - - 1 31]白周14年版心谱黑胜着法。[/FEN]||||||陈广仁的街头象棋残局中有一则修改局（原谱也认为黑胜），把红三兵前移一步。此时应由黑方先走，则该路变化为黑胜（修改局此时红炮应在一0位，无上一回合的交换，若回到这一位置，相当于下步还是黑走）||||[FEN=4k3C/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p8/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 w - - 8 14]附陈广仁三气周下瑜修改局着法。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30]蒋朱裘版本下回合走炮一平五，和。||||14、15回合黑走子顺序可调换一下。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31]||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN]||||炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN=4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN]，目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位，防止黑方的二鬼拍门。||||[FEN=2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]诠正着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40]这步若卒6平5，应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮，最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]和。||||以下为拆解时的一些变化。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42][FEN=2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]暂拆解出的该路和棋主变着法？[/FEN]，[/DhtmlXQ_comment42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46]有步黑炮平7路再退一逼兑红炮的棋。黑是否可行。可行的话又成黑胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50]这步黑有否变招余地。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52]目的是黑卒下步平中做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53]诠正着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_54]另一论友也拆解到这一路变化中，后经 yjr123指出，红还可胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_59]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_55]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_63]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_64]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_60]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_54]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_55]yjr123指出仍然和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_52]再退炮想办法灭兵。||||红两兵换一象，应和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]红优。应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_56]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_53]劣。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_61]另一红兵也被灭，[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_57]和还是黑负？黑方是一打兵一杀吧。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_46]拆解为和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_51]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_45]直接将拆解还是不行，可能还是要继续走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_51]红是一将一捉吧。若是再平炮走闲着，还是回到前面的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_57]一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_62]暂到此。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_49]||還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_46]诠正着法，黑胜。||||白周版本此时黑变招走该着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_34]亦和，变化与象1退3差不多。||||有人建议以象1进3为主变和棋较好。当时拆解时是按原有棋谱象1退3这路变化而来。象1退3是古谱竹谱1本的着法。后来朱鹤洲等诠注着法时改成象1进3了。导至后续局面除了黑象位置不同外，其它各子位置相同。相当于两种着法后面有一样的招法。||||[FEN=5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 14 17]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment27_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_35]诠正着法，同帅六平五走子顺序不同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_37][FEN=5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]相同局面[/FEN]||||以下为不同于象1退3（第17回合）的一些变化。转自论坛，未仔细核对。当时已拆解出象1进3中的一路和法，未注意象1退3的变化，后来发现象1退3也有相同局面，是根据各诠注本录入的，作为黑胜，两者其实无多大区别。||可参考象1进3那路变化走和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_43]这样可以和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_43]要着[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_44]可能黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]不变和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_35]诠正着法，与相五进七只是走子顺序不同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_37]诠正着法。||||[FEN=5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment31_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_41]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_45]黑胜，下见相同局面。||||[FEN=5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment32_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_35]？劣，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_39]？可否平移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_41]之前飞相的话这步黑卒走下来后能有机会平炮打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_42]此时红炮在1/2路就好了。可直接退炮打卒，往上推第17回合是否有问题？[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_45][FEN=5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment33_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_46]||蒋朱裘版本此时走卒4平5兑子（黑飞相略有不同）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_49]红一将一杀，必须变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_31]弈聪注：这步进兵感觉有问题，不进兵更利于防守，多了一个炮可在兵前打卒的机会且炮可在该线左右移动相当于多了一路活动范围。可动炮走闲着。但红若想取胜的话进兵也可以。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_32]弈聪注：下步红方的应着各诠注本基本上是炮平五或平六，炮平五可以说是防止黑卒占心使红帅动不了，但可以走帅六平五替代。炮平六根本看不出它的作用。炮留在一二路线更好，以后万一黑卒走下来，可以退炮防守防止黑卒进一步下来。下步棋红炮上下动走闲觉得可以。[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p6C/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 12 16]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment43_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_33]新招[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_37][FEN=5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]诠正着法，和[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment43_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_45]飞相关键。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_57]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_35]弈聪注：守和的关键点，不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相，红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着，或用炮拦黑炮。||||最先拆解的一路变化，可最后发现黑还是可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_39]和？好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会，之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注：该局面黑将再进一步后，红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉，红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门，已无法动了。||||分析：此时红前兵若再退后一步（19步红可不进兵，其它局面也很容易解决）？红炮若已在二路线呢？两种办法解决：1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN=2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将，之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位，红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮，慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_43]走闲着，先不到中间将，让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后，我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_44]这样如何？||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步，要平在四路才有用（黑炮在6路无法平）。第19回合红无法变招，||||||另一思路是红后兵不进，用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线，看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_46]这局势对红不利，红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路，黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的，可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_47]黑一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_65]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_37]？可能有问题。||||走闲着。红中兵未拱下去时更好。这样炮可再进一步，利于左右移动。[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_43]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_40]黑卒拱下去即和。||||黑另一种胜法是黑炮能否回到中路进攻。这样的话上步红炮进一较好，可拦黑炮，但黑炮可回打红兵，拦不住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_53]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_33]最初拆解时以为是劣着，后经诠正可成和局。||||该着应该是90年代左右出版的诠注本中的诠正着法，原谱走炮一平六成黑胜。诠正着法后以下通过黑主动兑子成和。10年以后（00年以后再版的还是以和棋为主，朱鹤洲中的江湖排局集成应该是最先诠为黑胜的）黑发现可以把炮移到红方左侧成杀。这应该是该局现被认定为黑胜的原因。||||黑炮在红方底线尽量不要去平中，在一二路线守住黑方的高卒就行，有退炮和拦黑炮的机会。||||该着出现的时机也可能在其它回合，其原理基本上差不多。||||炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment60_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_34]||[FEN=5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 14 17]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment60_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_37][FEN=5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]诠正着法。和。见相同局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment60_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_45]下同主变。||||[FEN=5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment61_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_35]？劣，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_39]？可否平移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_41]之前飞相的话这步黑卒走下来后能有机会平炮打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_42]此时红炮在1/2路就好了。可直接退炮打卒，往上推第17回合是否有问题？[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_45][FEN=5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment62_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_46]！黑胜。||||蒋朱裘版本此时走卒4平5兑子（黑飞相略有不同）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_49]红一将一杀，必须变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_33]弈聪注：原谱着法，黑胜。这步棋看不出它的作用。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_42]百局第2局红车杀黑车，劣着，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_33]新招。同帅六平五原理一样。在黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相均可。||诠注本的胜法中有一种是相未飞，炮还在中路，致使黑卒攻下来若飞相炮在中路没机会退炮做好打卒的准备。不飞相直接被吃了，后面根本无法防守。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_58]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76_31]心谱原谱着法。||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p1C5/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment76_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_31]和。||||[FEN=2b1k4/5P2c/9/3P5/9/9/9/4B4/4K4/9 b - - 6 28]蒋朱裘90年版心谱刊注着法，和。[/FEN]||||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN]||||炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment77_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_35]诠正着法，和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_37][FEN=2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]和。见相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment77_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_46]诠正着法，黑胜。||||白周版本此时黑变招走该着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment80_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment80_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_31]败着。||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p1C5/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment81_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_58]心谱第5变红变亦黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment82_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment83_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment83_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment84_52]心谱第4变黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment84_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment85_54]4、6路同时叫杀，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment85_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment86_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment86_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_27]劣。黑胜。||||[FEN=9/3k1P3/9/3C5/2b6/9/3p5/4B4/3K1p3/9 b - - 12 26]蒋朱裘90年版心谱刊注着法，和。[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/5P3/b8/9/9/6B2/4p4/8C/5p3/3K5 b - - 4 22]竹谱变九，和。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment87_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_31]炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment87_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment87_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment88_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment90_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment90_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment91_70]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment91_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment92_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment92_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment93_38]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment93_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment94_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment94_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment95_30]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment95_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment95_46]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment95_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment96_51]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment96_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_34]败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment98_37]错失胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment98_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment98_43]竹谱变九，和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment98_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99_28]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment99_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment99_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment100_45]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment100_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_26]红胜。||||[FEN=5k3/4P4/b4P3/9/9/9/3p1c3/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 3 21]竹谱变八，红胜。[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/4k4/b4P3/9/5P3/9/2p1C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 11 16]竹谱变十一，红胜。[/FEN]||||[FEN=2b2k3/4P4/9/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 15 18]竹谱变十二，红胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment101_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_27]以下黑有三种应着均难逃败北下場。[/DhtmlXQ_comment101_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_41]红胜。竹谱变八。[/DhtmlXQ_comment101_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment102_51]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment102_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment103_41]竹谱变八，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment103_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment104_31]红胜。竹谱变十一。||||注解合并：||竹谱变十一，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment104_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment105_35]红胜定。竹谱变十二。||||注解合并：||竹谱变十二，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment105_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment106_25]黑胜。||||[FEN=4k4/9/b4c3/9/6P2/9/3p5/4B4/5C3/4K4 b - - 1 19]杨明忠03年版心谱刊注着法，和。[/FEN]||||炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment106_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment106_26]让红多走一步炮五进三即成相似局面。||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/4C4/9/6P2/p8/4B4/5p3/3K3c1 w - - 8 14]相似局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment106_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment106_27]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment106_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment106_31][FEN=4k4/5C3/b5P2/9/9/6P2/2p6/4B4/5p3/4K2c1 b - - 13 17]相同局面，黑胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment106_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment106_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment106_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment107_52]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment107_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment111_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment111_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment113_31]红再回到一二路线，已白白损失步数。||||黑为了防止红兵往中间走，黑宫心卒即使红炮不打，也会移到6路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment113_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment113_35]红相也飞不了。不动兵只能动炮走闲着。后兵能移到中间就好了。往上推应该是第13步炮一平五损失步数了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment113_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment113_39]拦炮就进卒，二头顾不了。走其它闲着黑炮也平中将。[/DhtmlXQ_comment113_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment113_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment113_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment114_25]附录：录成陈广仁的修改局局势。[/DhtmlXQ_comment114_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment114_28]陈广仁把三气周瑜的红后兵前移一步，形成该局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment114_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment114_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment114_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment115_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment115_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment116_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment116_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment117_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment117_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment118_31]进后兵挡中路来不及。只能平中炮。这是与三气周瑜原局的区别。[/DhtmlXQ_comment118_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment118_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment118_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment119_36]黑下步即杀，飞相来不及。[/DhtmlXQ_comment119_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment120_24][FEN=2b1k4/5P3/9/4P4/9/2B6/9/3p5/4K1p2/9 w - - 8 26]暂诠为和棋主变着法。[/FEN]||||||[FEN=9/4P4/3k5/4c4/2b6/2B6/9/9/3Cp4/5K3 w - - 0 33]心谱1本佯和局。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment120_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment120_25]炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment120_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment120_27]诠正着法，和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment120_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment120_52]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment120_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment121_35]红还是打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment121_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment121_38]黑不进卒的话只能退炮或走闲。||||进卒后黑只能从红两侧进攻取胜。红炮可长拦。[/DhtmlXQ_comment121_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment121_69]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment121_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment122_64]这样黑反而不利。[/DhtmlXQ_comment122_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment122_77]红已胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment122_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment123_27]黑胜？||整理时发现第21回合红方可变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment123_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment123_41]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment123_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment123_44]该招由yjr123提出。||||以下经拆解就为黑胜。红只能前面变招了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment123_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment123_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment123_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment124_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment124_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment125_74]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment125_74]
[DhtmlXQ_comment126_51]亦可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment126_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment127_57]不变作和！[/DhtmlXQ_comment127_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment128_50]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment128_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment128_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment128_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment129_50]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment129_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment129_57]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment129_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment131_41]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment131_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment131_42]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment131_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment131_47]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment131_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment131_51]这样黑不利！[/DhtmlXQ_comment131_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment132_41]！？[/DhtmlXQ_comment132_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment132_42]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment132_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment133_53]双方不变，纷和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment133_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment133_66]心谱1本佯和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment133_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment133_67]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment133_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment134_64]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment134_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment135_51]心谱2变黑变亦佯和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment135_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment136_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment136_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment137_27]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment137_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment137_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment137_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_33]先帅平中再想打法赶卒，黑进卒吃红相还是快了一步。[/DhtmlXQ_comment138_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_40]黑已胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment138_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_51]红无子可动。只能动该兵，其它三子没法动。平三也一样。[/DhtmlXQ_comment138_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment138_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment139_68]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment139_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment140_28]红可和。||||还不如第12回合直接炮8进3。此时红炮在黑方卒线的位置要好于在红方兵线的位置。相当于在相似局面中让红方多走了一步。||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/5p3/3K3c1 w - - 6 13]相似局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment140_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment140_42]||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/5C3/5P3/6B2/9/3p5/6p2/5Kc2 w - - 20 20]相似局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment140_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment140_43]可炮四平三，见相似局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment140_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment140_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment140_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment141_53]不让黑卒占心，黑要杀只能运炮到红方左侧，这样红胜机会反而大一点。[/DhtmlXQ_comment141_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment141_62]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment141_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment142_30]黑若再退炮白走了。不走这步，只能平卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment142_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment142_43]走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment142_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment142_51]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment142_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment142_89]即可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment142_89]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_29]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment143_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_40][FEN=9/4k4/b4P3/5C3/5P3/6B2/9/3p5/6p2/5Kc2 w - - 22 21]相似局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment143_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_41]可相三退一复杂一点，红方有优势。[/DhtmlXQ_comment143_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_44]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment143_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment144_35]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment144_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment145_31]可进后兵再平四打卒。帅居中不急。[/DhtmlXQ_comment145_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment145_33]这步是真正的败着。||||再平兵打卒，与这步先进后兵再平四打卒步数一样。但红炮在卒线再飞相至三路多了一个炮平三打黑7路卒的棋。（平前兵打卒以后是前兵平五挡将才能飞相，被黑象一飞只能又平移，红没机会飞相，走后兵可后兵平五再飞相用相当炮架守三路线）||||[FEN=4k4/5C3/b5P2/9/9/6P2/2p6/4B4/5p3/4K2c1 b - - 13 17]相同局面，黑可胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment145_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment146_38]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment146_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment147_34]先复制过来。[/DhtmlXQ_comment147_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment147_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment147_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment152_34]上步走炮四进二时。黑方应以炮8退9取胜。||||现黑方应以同样的招法看一下区别。[/DhtmlXQ_comment152_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment152_35]上步炮四进二时，这步平四刚好打黑卒，黑只能卒6平7。[/DhtmlXQ_comment152_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment152_39]与17回合炮四进二时的区别。||||下步黑应以卒3进1时碰到红一将一杀了，待拆解。||这样的话第16回合红只能变招了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment152_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment152_49]红好象是一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment152_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment153_40]除此其它也没好招。改走其它，可能只是走子顺序不同而已。[/DhtmlXQ_comment153_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment153_46]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment153_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment154_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment154_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment155_40]和？下未折解略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment155_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment156_44]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment156_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment157_24][FEN=2bk5/4P4/5P3/9/9/9/9/9/3c5/4K4 b - - 0 29]心谱第3变黑又变和。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment157_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment157_57]心谱第3变黑又变和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment157_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment158_54]按古时捉一不捉二，二捉一还捉的惯例，双方不变可作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment158_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment159_31]最后殊途同归。[/DhtmlXQ_comment159_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment159_63]按二打一还打作和。现棋规应由黑方变招。变红兵六进一立负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment159_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment160_22][FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/2B6/6P2/7c1/p3p3C/3K5 b - - 7 14]竹谱变七，红胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment160_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment160_27]红胜定。竹谱变七。||||注解合并：||竹谱变七，红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment160_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment161_21][FEN=5k3/9/b3P4/6P2/4C4/9/9/9/4p4/3K1p1c1 w - - 4 19]渊谱第3局炮不打象黑胜着法[/FEN]||||以下着法不细拆解。[/DhtmlXQ_comment161_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment161_31]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment161_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment161_33]至此红相被白吃了。前面二回合中红兵三进一可不急走。先动相。[/DhtmlXQ_comment161_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment161_36]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment161_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment162_38]渊谱第3局炮不打象黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment162_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment163_19]原谱认为炮一平七可以弈成和局。||||该变全部诠注本都认为是黑胜。其它版本的主变着法略。基本上差不多。主要争论点在炮四平九的变化中。||||[FEN=9/3k5/9/9/9/9/9/9/3p1K3/1C7 b - - 1 36]百局第1局，和[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/3k5/5P3/5P3/3C5/9/9/2c6/4p4/3K1p3 w - - 4 22]朱蒋裘87年版本认为该变黑胜着法[/FEN]||||[FEN=4Ck3/4P4/9/9/9/9/9/2p6/3K1p3/9 b - - 6 31]董志新88年百局版本认为该变真和着法[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment163_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment163_20]此处黑方亦可改走车1进2||||弈聪注：车1进2？很多诠注本认为可走车1进2取胜。可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment163_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment163_23]古谱着法，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment163_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment163_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment163_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment164_38]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment164_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment165_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment165_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment166_26]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment166_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment166_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment166_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment167_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment167_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment168_32]黑不必演成着法循环的和局，而应走卒5平6。[/DhtmlXQ_comment168_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment168_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment168_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment169_30]这着进炮是本局正变的关键错着，从而失去了黑方取胜的良机。黑方应改走炮3平4。[/DhtmlXQ_comment169_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment169_46]如黑方改走炮5退2？则兵四进一！[/DhtmlXQ_comment169_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment169_50]双方不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment169_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment170_47]黑有两种应法[/DhtmlXQ_comment170_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment170_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment170_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment171_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment171_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment172_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment172_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment173_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment173_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment174_53]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment174_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment175_55]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment175_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment176_47]此时红方应走兵六平五，亦可兵六进一。[/DhtmlXQ_comment176_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment176_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment176_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment177_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment177_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment178_60]大错！应改炮8平3催杀，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment178_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment178_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment178_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment179_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment179_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment180_71]百局第1局官和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment180_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment183_23]新着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment183_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment183_48]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment183_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment184_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment184_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment185_48]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment185_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment186_44]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment186_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment186_61]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment186_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment187_39]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment187_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment188_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment188_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment189_20]黑若车1进1同车1进2。[/DhtmlXQ_comment189_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment189_27][FEN=4k4/5P3/9/9/4C4/2B6/6P2/7c1/3p1p3/4K4 w - - 15 21]杨明忠版本中的黑胜着法[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment189_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment189_33]更佳，已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment189_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment190_45]和。黑平1可不变和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment190_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment191_39]不变和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment191_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment192_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment192_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment193_41]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment193_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment194_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment194_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment195_43]红已胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment195_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment195_71]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment195_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment196_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment196_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment197_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment197_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment198_15]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment198_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment199_21]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment199_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment200_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment200_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment201_10]红无杀，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment201_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment202_9]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment202_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment203_13]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment203_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment204_13]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment204_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment205_7]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment205_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment206_9]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment206_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment207_14]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment207_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment208_8]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment208_8]
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作者: 邢春波 时间: 2018-10-4 21:31
应以上象为主变
汇总的这个变化末尾有点乱

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]该局排局界黑胜好象已是定论。在87年版的朱蒋裘版本中为和棋结论，之后出版的诠注本陆续诠正为黑胜了。查我现有的资料应该是朱鹤洲的江湖排局集成最先诠为黑胜的。我当时计划拆解江湖四大排局名著时录到该局时，感觉黑胜中的着法有问题，曾在华工网中发贴求助，但反应不多，便没有继续拆解下去。后又发现竹香斋中的寒松卧壑有问题，在华工网中发贴后提及该局，由聊吟客发贴进行讨论，经yjr123提出一些看法，使我又继续拆解下去，现汇总各位论友的观点，把该局暂诠正为和局。也许有新的黑胜招法未发现。||||该局很多地方出现炮一平五的招法，原先以为是劣着，直接注明黑胜了，后发现可通过中炮退至帅前再平到左侧防止黑卒进到二路线，出现该招的地方有些可能还适用，特意汇总了一下。||||诠正着法：||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p6cC/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 3 12]诠正着法分支处[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]诠正和棋着法1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D2b1k4/5P3/9/4P4/9/2B6/9/3p5/4K1p2/9 w - - 8 26]诠正和棋着法2[/FEN]||||||汇总整理时发现一些变化待拆解：||[FEN\u003D3k5/9/b2P5/3c5/5P3/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K4 b - - 21 21]待拆解[/FEN]||||||古谱和各诠注本部分着法如下：||[FEN\u003D2b1k3C/9/r4RP2/9/9/9/p5P2/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 w - - 0 9]百局变招分支处[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/3k5/9/9/9/9/9/9/3p1K3/1C7 b - - 1 36]百局第1局，和[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/4PP3/3C5/2b6/9/9/4p4/5p3/4K2c1 w - - 0 21]百局第2局，黑胜[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/3P1P3/9/9/2b6/9/3C5/4B4/4p4/3K1p3 w - - 1 31]白周版本黑胜主变[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p6cC/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 3 12]心谱分支处[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D2b1k4/9/4P4/9/2P6/9/9/4B4/3c1p3/2p1K4 w - - 2 29]心谱认为黑胜着法/心谱第5变红变亦黑胜。[/FEN]||||||发现黑胜着法主要为：黑卒能有机会走到红帅九宫处，一种胜法是黑卒走到红士角位置时红相来不及飞直接被黑卒吃掉了，另一种是黑卒走到红方二路线，之后一卒定心，炮卒成杀。基于以上两点，拆解时，有机会就先飞相，另想有什么办法能使红炮走到二路线左铡防止黑卒进到二路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19]||该局是否是黑胜和和棋的结论主要看这路变化。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/4PP3/3C5/2b6/9/9/4p4/5p3/4K2c1 w - - 0 21]百局第2局，黑胜[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/3k1P3/9/9/2b6/3C5/3p5/4B4/3K1p3/9 w - - 7 23]朱蒋裘87年版本认为该变和棋着法[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D5k3/9/b3P4/9/4C1P2/9/9/9/4pp3/3K3c1 w - - 2 18]董志新88年百局版本认为该变黑胜着法1（另一胜法为原谱胜法）[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/3k1P3/2P6/9/2b6/3C5/9/4B4/4p4/1c1p1K3 w - - 44 32]朱鹤洲99年版的江湖排局集成中诠为黑胜着法[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]以下有两种诠正着法（炮8退1和法为古谱着法，拆解着法差不多）[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24][FEN\u003D2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]诠正和棋着法1[/FEN]||||||||古谱及各诠注本着法如下：||||[FEN\u003D2b1k4/9/4P4/9/2P6/9/9/4B4/3c1p3/2p1K4 w - - 2 29]心谱第5变红变亦黑胜。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D2b1k4/5P2c/9/3P5/9/9/9/4B4/4K4/9 b - - 6 28]竹谱1本和。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/3P1P3/9/9/2b6/9/3C5/4B4/4p4/3K1p3 w - - 1 31]白周14年版心谱黑胜着法。[/FEN]||||||陈广仁的街头象棋残局中有一则修改局（原谱也认为黑胜），把红三兵前移一步。此时应由黑方先走，则该路变化为黑胜（修改局此时红炮应在一0位，无上一回合的交换，若回到这一位置，相当于下步还是黑走）||||[FEN\u003D4k3C/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p8/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 w - - 8 14]附陈广仁三气周下瑜修改局着法。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30]蒋朱裘版本下回合走炮一平五，和。||||14、15回合黑走子顺序可调换一下。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31]||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN]||||炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN]，目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位，防止黑方的二鬼拍门。||||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment27_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_39]诠正着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_40]这步若卒6平5，应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮，最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_41]和。||||以下为拆解时的一些变化。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_42][FEN\u003D2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]暂拆解出的该路和棋主变着法？[/FEN]，[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_46]有步黑炮平7路再退一逼兑红炮的棋。黑是否可行。可行的话又成黑胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_50]这步黑有否变招余地。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_52]目的是黑卒下步平中做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_53]诠正着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_66]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_54]另一论友也拆解到这一路变化中，后经 yjr123指出，红还可胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_59]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_55]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_63]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_64]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_60]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_54]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_55]yjr123指出仍然和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_52]再退炮想办法灭兵。||||红两兵换一象，应和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]红优。应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_56]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_53]劣。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_61]另一红兵也被灭，[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_57]和还是黑负？黑方是一打兵一杀吧。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_46]拆解为和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_51]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_45]直接将拆解还是不行，可能还是要继续走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_51]红是一将一捉吧。若是再平炮走闲着，还是回到前面的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_57]一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_62]暂到此。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_49]||還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_46]诠正着法，黑胜。||||白周版本此时黑变招走该着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34]亦和，变化与象1退3差不多。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 14 17]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35]诠正着法，同帅六平五走子顺序不同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]相同局面[/FEN]||||以下为不同于象1退3（第17回合）的一些变化。转自论坛，未仔细核对。当时已拆解出象1进3中的一路和法，未注意象1退3的变化，后来发现象1退3也有相同局面，是根据各诠注本录入的，作为黑胜，两者其实无多大区别。||可参考象1进3那路变化走和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43]这样可以和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_43]要着[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_44]可能黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]不变和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_35]诠正着法，与相五进七只是走子顺序不同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_37]诠正着法。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment31_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_41]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_45]黑胜，下见相同局面。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment32_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_35]？劣，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_39]？可否平移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_41]之前飞相的话这步黑卒走下来后能有机会平炮打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_42]此时红炮在1/2路就好了。可直接退炮打卒，往上推第17回合是否有问题？[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_45][FEN\u003D5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment33_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_46]||蒋朱裘版本此时走卒4平5兑子（黑飞相略有不同）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_49]红一将一杀，必须变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_31]弈聪注：这步进兵感觉有问题，不进兵更利于防守，多了一个炮可在兵前打卒的机会且炮可在该线左右移动相当于多了一路活动范围。可动炮走闲着。但红若想取胜的话进兵也可以。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_32]弈聪注：下步红方的应着各诠注本基本上是炮平五或平六，炮平五可以说是防止黑卒占心使红帅动不了，但可以走帅六平五替代。炮平六根本看不出它的作用。炮留在一二路线更好，以后万一黑卒走下来，可以退炮防守防止黑卒进一步下来。下步棋红炮上下动走闲觉得可以。[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p6C/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 12 16]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment43_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_33]新招[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_37][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]诠正着法，和[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment43_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_45]飞相关键。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_57]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_35]弈聪注：守和的关键点，不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相，红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着，或用炮拦黑炮。||||最先拆解的一路变化，可最后发现黑还是可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_39]和？好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会，之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注：该局面黑将再进一步后，红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉，红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门，已无法动了。||||分析：此时红前兵若再退后一步（19步红可不进兵，其它局面也很容易解决）？红炮若已在二路线呢？两种办法解决：1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将，之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位，红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮，慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_43]走闲着，先不到中间将，让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后，我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_44]这样如何？||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步，要平在四路才有用（黑炮在6路无法平）。第19回合红无法变招，||||||另一思路是红后兵不进，用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线，看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_46]这局势对红不利，红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路，黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的，可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_47]黑一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_65]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_37]？可能有问题。||||走闲着。红中兵未拱下去时更好。这样炮可再进一步，利于左右移动。[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_43]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_40]黑卒拱下去即和。||||黑另一种胜法是黑炮能否回到中路进攻。这样的话上步红炮进一较好，可拦黑炮，但黑炮可回打红兵，拦不住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_53]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_33]最初拆解时以为是劣着，后经诠正可成和局。||||该着应该是90年代左右出版的诠注本中的诠正着法，原谱走炮一平六成黑胜。诠正着法后以下通过黑主动兑子成和。10年以后（00年以后再版的还是以和棋为主，朱鹤洲中的江湖排局集成应该是最先诠为黑胜的）黑发现可以把炮移到红方左侧成杀。这应该是该局现被认定为黑胜的原因。||||黑炮在红方底线尽量不要去平中，在一二路线守住黑方的高卒就行，有退炮和拦黑炮的机会。||||该着出现的时机也可能在其它回合，其原理基本上差不多。||||炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment60_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_34]||[FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 14 17]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment60_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_37][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]诠正着法。和。见相同局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment60_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_45]下同主变。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment61_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_35]？劣，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_39]？可否平移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_41]之前飞相的话这步黑卒走下来后能有机会平炮打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_42]此时红炮在1/2路就好了。可直接退炮打卒，往上推第17回合是否有问题？[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_45][FEN\u003D5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment62_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_46]！黑胜。||||蒋朱裘版本此时走卒4平5兑子（黑飞相略有不同）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_49]红一将一杀，必须变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_33]弈聪注：原谱着法，黑胜。这步棋看不出它的作用。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_42]百局第2局红车杀黑车，劣着，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_33]新招。同帅六平五原理一样。在黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相均可。||诠注本的胜法中有一种是相未飞，炮还在中路，致使黑卒攻下来若飞相炮在中路没机会退炮做好打卒的准备。不飞相直接被吃了，后面根本无法防守。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_58]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76_31]心谱原谱着法。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p1C5/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment76_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_31]和。||||[FEN\u003D2b1k4/5P2c/9/3P5/9/9/9/4B4/4K4/9 b - - 6 28]蒋朱裘90年版心谱刊注着法，和。[/FEN]||||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN]||||炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment77_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_35]诠正着法，和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_37][FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]和。见相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment77_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_46]诠正着法，黑胜。||||白周版本此时黑变招走该着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment80_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment80_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_31]败着。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p1C5/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment81_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_58]心谱第5变红变亦黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment82_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment83_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment83_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment84_52]心谱第4变黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment84_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment85_54]4、6路同时叫杀，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment85_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment86_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment86_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_27]劣。黑胜。||||[FEN\u003D9/3k1P3/9/3C5/2b6/9/3p5/4B4/3K1p3/9 b - - 12 26]蒋朱裘90年版心谱刊注着法，和。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/5P3/b8/9/9/6B2/4p4/8C/5p3/3K5 b - - 4 22]竹谱变九，和。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment87_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_31]炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment87_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment87_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment88_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment90_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment90_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment91_70]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment91_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment92_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment92_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment93_38]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment93_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment94_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment94_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment95_30]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment95_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment95_46]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment95_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment96_51]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment96_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_34]败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment98_37]错失胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment98_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment98_43]竹谱变九，和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment98_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99_28]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment99_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment99_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment100_45]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment100_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_26]红胜。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/4P4/b4P3/9/9/9/3p1c3/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 3 21]竹谱变八，红胜。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/9/5P3/9/2p1C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 11 16]竹谱变十一，红胜。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/4P4/9/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 15 18]竹谱变十二，红胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment101_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_27]以下黑有三种应着均难逃败北下場。[/DhtmlXQ_comment101_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_41]红胜。竹谱变八。[/DhtmlXQ_comment101_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment102_51]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment102_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment103_41]竹谱变八，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment103_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment104_31]红胜。竹谱变十一。||||注解合并：||竹谱变十一，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment104_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment105_35]红胜定。竹谱变十二。||||注解合并：||竹谱变十二，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment105_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment106_25]黑胜。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b4c3/9/6P2/9/3p5/4B4/5C3/4K4 b - - 1 19]杨明忠03年版心谱刊注着法，和。[/FEN]||||炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment106_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment106_26]让红多走一步炮五进三即成相似局面。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/4C4/9/6P2/p8/4B4/5p3/3K3c1 w - - 8 14]相似局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment106_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment106_27]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment106_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment106_31][FEN\u003D4k4/5C3/b5P2/9/9/6P2/2p6/4B4/5p3/4K2c1 b - - 13 17]相同局面，黑胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment106_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment106_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment106_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment107_52]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment107_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment111_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment111_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment113_31]红再回到一二路线，已白白损失步数。||||黑为了防止红兵往中间走，黑宫心卒即使红炮不打，也会移到6路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment113_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment113_35]红相也飞不了。不动兵只能动炮走闲着。后兵能移到中间就好了。往上推应该是第13步炮一平五损失步数了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment113_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment113_39]拦炮就进卒，二头顾不了。走其它闲着黑炮也平中将。[/DhtmlXQ_comment113_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment113_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment113_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment114_25]附录：录成陈广仁的修改局局势。[/DhtmlXQ_comment114_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment114_28]陈广仁把三气周瑜的红后兵前移一步，形成该局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment114_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment114_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment114_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment115_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment115_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment116_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment116_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment117_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment117_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment118_31]进后兵挡中路来不及。只能平中炮。这是与三气周瑜原局的区别。[/DhtmlXQ_comment118_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment118_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment118_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment119_36]黑下步即杀，飞相来不及。[/DhtmlXQ_comment119_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment120_24][FEN\u003D2b1k4/5P3/9/4P4/9/2B6/9/3p5/4K1p2/9 w - - 8 26]暂诠为和棋主变着法。[/FEN]||||||[FEN\u003D9/4P4/3k5/4c4/2b6/2B6/9/9/3Cp4/5K3 w - - 0 33]心谱1本佯和局。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment120_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment120_25]炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment120_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment120_27]诠正着法，和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment120_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment120_52]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment120_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment121_35]红还是打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment121_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment121_38]黑不进卒的话只能退炮或走闲。||||进卒后黑只能从红两侧进攻取胜。红炮可长拦。[/DhtmlXQ_comment121_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment121_69]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment121_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment122_64]这样黑反而不利。[/DhtmlXQ_comment122_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment122_77]红已胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment122_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment123_27]黑胜？||整理时发现第21回合红方可变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment123_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment123_41]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment123_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment123_44]该招由yjr123提出。||||以下经拆解就为黑胜。红只能前面变招了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment123_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment123_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment123_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment124_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment124_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment125_74]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment125_74]
[DhtmlXQ_comment126_51]亦可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment126_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment127_57]不变作和！[/DhtmlXQ_comment127_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment128_50]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment128_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment128_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment128_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment129_50]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment129_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment129_57]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment129_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment131_41]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment131_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment131_42]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment131_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment131_47]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment131_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment131_51]这样黑不利！[/DhtmlXQ_comment131_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment132_41]！？[/DhtmlXQ_comment132_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment132_42]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment132_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment133_53]双方不变，纷和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment133_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment133_66]心谱1本佯和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment133_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment133_67]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment133_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment134_64]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment134_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment135_51]心谱2变黑变亦佯和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment135_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment136_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment136_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment137_27]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment137_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment137_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment137_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_33]先帅平中再想打法赶卒，黑进卒吃红相还是快了一步。[/DhtmlXQ_comment138_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_40]黑已胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment138_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_51]红无子可动。只能动该兵，其它三子没法动。平三也一样。[/DhtmlXQ_comment138_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment138_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment139_68]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment139_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment140_28]红可和。||||还不如第12回合直接炮8进3。此时红炮在黑方卒线的位置要好于在红方兵线的位置。相当于在相似局面中让红方多走了一步。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/5p3/3K3c1 w - - 6 13]相似局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment140_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment140_42]||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/5C3/5P3/6B2/9/3p5/6p2/5Kc2 w - - 20 20]相似局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment140_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment140_43]可炮四平三，见相似局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment140_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment140_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment140_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment141_53]不让黑卒占心，黑要杀只能运炮到红方左侧，这样红胜机会反而大一点。[/DhtmlXQ_comment141_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment141_62]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment141_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment142_30]黑若再退炮白走了。不走这步，只能平卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment142_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment142_43]走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment142_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment142_51]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment142_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment142_89]即可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment142_89]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_29]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment143_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_40][FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/5C3/5P3/6B2/9/3p5/6p2/5Kc2 w - - 22 21]相似局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment143_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_41]可相三退一复杂一点，红方有优势。[/DhtmlXQ_comment143_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_44]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment143_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment144_35]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment144_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment145_31]可进后兵再平四打卒。帅居中不急。[/DhtmlXQ_comment145_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment145_33]这步是真正的败着。||||再平兵打卒，与这步先进后兵再平四打卒步数一样。但红炮在卒线再飞相至三路多了一个炮平三打黑7路卒的棋。（平前兵打卒以后是前兵平五挡将才能飞相，被黑象一飞只能又平移，红没机会飞相，走后兵可后兵平五再飞相用相当炮架守三路线）||||[FEN\u003D4k4/5C3/b5P2/9/9/6P2/2p6/4B4/5p3/4K2c1 b - - 13 17]相同局面，黑可胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment145_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment146_38]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment146_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment147_34]先复制过来。[/DhtmlXQ_comment147_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment147_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment147_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment152_34]上步走炮四进二时。黑方应以炮8退9取胜。||||现黑方应以同样的招法看一下区别。[/DhtmlXQ_comment152_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment152_35]上步炮四进二时，这步平四刚好打黑卒，黑只能卒6平7。[/DhtmlXQ_comment152_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment152_39]与17回合炮四进二时的区别。||||下步黑应以卒3进1时碰到红一将一杀了，待拆解。||这样的话第16回合红只能变招了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment152_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment152_49]红好象是一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment152_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment153_40]除此其它也没好招。改走其它，可能只是走子顺序不同而已。[/DhtmlXQ_comment153_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment153_46]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment153_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment154_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment154_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment155_40]和？下未折解略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment155_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment156_44]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment156_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment157_24][FEN\u003D2bk5/4P4/5P3/9/9/9/9/9/3c5/4K4 b - - 0 29]心谱第3变黑又变和。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment157_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment157_57]心谱第3变黑又变和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment157_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment158_54]按古时捉一不捉二，二捉一还捉的惯例，双方不变可作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment158_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment159_31]最后殊途同归。[/DhtmlXQ_comment159_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment159_63]按二打一还打作和。现棋规应由黑方变招。变红兵六进一立负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment159_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment160_22][FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/2B6/6P2/7c1/p3p3C/3K5 b - - 7 14]竹谱变七，红胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment160_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment160_27]红胜定。竹谱变七。||||注解合并：||竹谱变七，红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment160_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment161_21][FEN\u003D5k3/9/b3P4/6P2/4C4/9/9/9/4p4/3K1p1c1 w - - 4 19]渊谱第3局炮不打象黑胜着法[/FEN]||||以下着法不细拆解。[/DhtmlXQ_comment161_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment161_31]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment161_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment161_33]至此红相被白吃了。前面二回合中红兵三进一可不急走。先动相。[/DhtmlXQ_comment161_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment161_36]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment161_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment162_38]渊谱第3局炮不打象黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment162_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment163_19]原谱认为炮一平七可以弈成和局。||||该变全部诠注本都认为是黑胜。其它版本的主变着法略。基本上差不多。主要争论点在炮四平九的变化中。||||[FEN\u003D9/3k5/9/9/9/9/9/9/3p1K3/1C7 b - - 1 36]百局第1局，和[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/3k5/5P3/5P3/3C5/9/9/2c6/4p4/3K1p3 w - - 4 22]朱蒋裘87年版本认为该变黑胜着法[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4Ck3/4P4/9/9/9/9/9/2p6/3K1p3/9 b - - 6 31]董志新88年百局版本认为该变真和着法[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment163_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment163_20]此处黑方亦可改走车1进2||||弈聪注：车1进2？很多诠注本认为可走车1进2取胜。可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment163_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment163_23]古谱着法，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment163_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment163_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment163_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment164_38]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment164_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment165_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment165_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment166_26]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment166_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment166_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment166_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment167_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment167_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment168_32]黑不必演成着法循环的和局，而应走卒5平6。[/DhtmlXQ_comment168_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment168_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment168_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment169_30]这着进炮是本局正变的关键错着，从而失去了黑方取胜的良机。黑方应改走炮3平4。[/DhtmlXQ_comment169_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment169_46]如黑方改走炮5退2？则兵四进一！[/DhtmlXQ_comment169_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment169_50]双方不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment169_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment170_47]黑有两种应法[/DhtmlXQ_comment170_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment170_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment170_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment171_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment171_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment172_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment172_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment173_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment173_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment174_53]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment174_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment175_55]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment175_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment176_47]此时红方应走兵六平五，亦可兵六进一。[/DhtmlXQ_comment176_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment176_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment176_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment177_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment177_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment178_60]大错！应改炮8平3催杀，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment178_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment178_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment178_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment179_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment179_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment180_71]百局第1局官和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment180_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment183_23]新着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment183_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment183_48]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment183_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment184_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment184_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment185_48]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment185_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment186_44]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment186_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment186_61]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment186_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment187_39]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment187_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment188_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment188_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment189_20]黑若车1进1同车1进2。[/DhtmlXQ_comment189_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment189_27][FEN\u003D4k4/5P3/9/9/4C4/2B6/6P2/7c1/3p1p3/4K4 w - - 15 21]杨明忠版本中的黑胜着法[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment189_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment189_33]更佳，已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment189_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment190_45]和。黑平1可不变和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment190_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment191_39]不变和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment191_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment192_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment192_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment193_41]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment193_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment194_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment194_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment195_43]红已胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment195_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment195_71]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment195_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment196_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment196_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment197_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment197_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment198_15]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment198_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment199_21]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment199_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment200_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment200_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment201_10]红无杀，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment201_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment202_9]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment202_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment203_13]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment203_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment204_13]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment204_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment205_7]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment205_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment206_9]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment206_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment207_14]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment207_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment208_8]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment208_8]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]该局排局界黑胜好象已是定论。在87年版的朱蒋裘版本中为和棋结论，之后出版的诠注本陆续诠正为黑胜了。查我现有的资料应该是朱鹤洲的江湖排局集成最先诠为黑胜的。我当时计划拆解江湖四大排局名著时录到该局时，感觉黑胜中的着法有问题，曾在华工网中发贴求助，但反应不多，便没有继续拆解下去。后又发现竹香斋中的寒松卧壑有问题，在华工网中发贴后提及该局，由聊吟客发贴进行讨论，经yjr123提出一些看法，使我又继续拆解下去，现汇总各位论友的观点，把该局暂诠正为和局。也许有新的黑胜招法未发现。||||该局很多地方出现炮一平五的招法，原先以为是劣着，直接注明黑胜了，后发现可通过中炮退至帅前再平到左侧防止黑卒进到二路线，出现该招的地方有些可能还适用，特意汇总了一下。||||诠正着法：||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p6cC/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 3 12]诠正着法分支处[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]诠正和棋着法1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D2b1k4/5P3/9/4P4/9/2B6/9/3p5/4K1p2/9 w - - 8 26]诠正和棋着法2[/FEN]||||||汇总整理时发现一些变化待拆解：||[FEN\u003D3k5/9/b2P5/3c5/5P3/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K4 b - - 21 21]待拆解[/FEN]||||||古谱和各诠注本部分着法如下：||[FEN\u003D2b1k3C/9/r4RP2/9/9/9/p5P2/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 w - - 0 9]百局变招分支处[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/3k5/9/9/9/9/9/9/3p1K3/1C7 b - - 1 36]百局第1局，和[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/4PP3/3C5/2b6/9/9/4p4/5p3/4K2c1 w - - 0 21]百局第2局，黑胜[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/3P1P3/9/9/2b6/9/3C5/4B4/4p4/3K1p3 w - - 1 31]白周版本黑胜主变[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p6cC/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 3 12]心谱分支处[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D2b1k4/9/4P4/9/2P6/9/9/4B4/3c1p3/2p1K4 w - - 2 29]心谱认为黑胜着法/心谱第5变红变亦黑胜。[/FEN]||||||发现黑胜着法主要为：黑卒能有机会走到红帅九宫处，一种胜法是黑卒走到红士角位置时红相来不及飞直接被黑卒吃掉了，另一种是黑卒走到红方二路线，之后一卒定心，炮卒成杀。基于以上两点，拆解时，有机会就先飞相，另想有什么办法能使红炮走到二路线左铡防止黑卒进到二路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19]||该局是否是黑胜和和棋的结论主要看这路变化。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/4PP3/3C5/2b6/9/9/4p4/5p3/4K2c1 w - - 0 21]百局第2局，黑胜[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/3k1P3/9/9/2b6/3C5/3p5/4B4/3K1p3/9 w - - 7 23]朱蒋裘87年版本认为该变和棋着法[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D5k3/9/b3P4/9/4C1P2/9/9/9/4pp3/3K3c1 w - - 2 18]董志新88年百局版本认为该变黑胜着法1（另一胜法为原谱胜法）[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/3k1P3/2P6/9/2b6/3C5/9/4B4/4p4/1c1p1K3 w - - 44 32]朱鹤洲99年版的江湖排局集成中诠为黑胜着法[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]以下有两种诠正着法（炮8退1和法为古谱着法，拆解着法差不多）[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24][FEN\u003D2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]诠正和棋着法1[/FEN]||||||||古谱及各诠注本着法如下：||||[FEN\u003D2b1k4/9/4P4/9/2P6/9/9/4B4/3c1p3/2p1K4 w - - 2 29]心谱第5变红变亦黑胜。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D2b1k4/5P2c/9/3P5/9/9/9/4B4/4K4/9 b - - 6 28]竹谱1本和。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/3P1P3/9/9/2b6/9/3C5/4B4/4p4/3K1p3 w - - 1 31]白周14年版心谱黑胜着法。[/FEN]||||||陈广仁的街头象棋残局中有一则修改局（原谱也认为黑胜），把红三兵前移一步。此时应由黑方先走，则该路变化为黑胜（修改局此时红炮应在一0位，无上一回合的交换，若回到这一位置，相当于下步还是黑走）||||[FEN\u003D4k3C/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p8/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 w - - 8 14]附陈广仁三气周下瑜修改局着法。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30]蒋朱裘版本下回合走炮一平五，和。||||14、15回合黑走子顺序可调换一下。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31]||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN]||||炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN]，目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位，防止黑方的二鬼拍门。||||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]诠正着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40]这步若卒6平5，应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮，最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]和。||||以下为拆解时的一些变化。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42][FEN\u003D2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]暂拆解出的该路和棋主变着法？[/FEN]，[/DhtmlXQ_comment42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46]黑走此着是否有棋.[/DhtmlXQ_comment46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74]和局.[/DhtmlXQ_comment74]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]有步黑炮平7路再退一逼兑红炮的棋。黑是否可行。可行的话又成黑胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_50]这步黑有否变招余地。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_52]目的是黑卒下步平中做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_53]诠正着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_66]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_54]另一论友也拆解到这一路变化中，后经 yjr123指出，红还可胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_59]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_55]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_63]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_64]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_60]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_54]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_55]yjr123指出仍然和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_52]再退炮想办法灭兵。||||红两兵换一象，应和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_53]红优。应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_57]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_56]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_53]劣。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_61]另一红兵也被灭，[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_57]和还是黑负？黑方是一打兵一杀吧。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_46]拆解为和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_51]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_45]直接将拆解还是不行，可能还是要继续走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_51]红是一将一捉吧。若是再平炮走闲着，还是回到前面的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_57]一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_62]暂到此。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_49]||還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_46]诠正着法，黑胜。||||白周版本此时黑变招走该着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_34]亦和，变化与象1退3差不多。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 14 17]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment28_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_35]诠正着法，同帅六平五走子顺序不同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_37][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]相同局面[/FEN]||||以下为不同于象1退3（第17回合）的一些变化。转自论坛，未仔细核对。当时已拆解出象1进3中的一路和法，未注意象1退3的变化，后来发现象1退3也有相同局面，是根据各诠注本录入的，作为黑胜，两者其实无多大区别。||可参考象1进3那路变化走和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_43]这样可以和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_43]要着[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_44]可能黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_62]不变和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_35]诠正着法，与相五进七只是走子顺序不同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_37]诠正着法。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment32_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_41]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_45]黑胜，下见相同局面。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment33_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_35]？劣，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_39]？可否平移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_41]之前飞相的话这步黑卒走下来后能有机会平炮打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_42]此时红炮在1/2路就好了。可直接退炮打卒，往上推第17回合是否有问题？[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_45][FEN\u003D5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment34_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_46]||蒋朱裘版本此时走卒4平5兑子（黑飞相略有不同）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_49]红一将一杀，必须变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_31]弈聪注：这步进兵感觉有问题，不进兵更利于防守，多了一个炮可在兵前打卒的机会且炮可在该线左右移动相当于多了一路活动范围。可动炮走闲着。但红若想取胜的话进兵也可以。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_32]弈聪注：下步红方的应着各诠注本基本上是炮平五或平六，炮平五可以说是防止黑卒占心使红帅动不了，但可以走帅六平五替代。炮平六根本看不出它的作用。炮留在一二路线更好，以后万一黑卒走下来，可以退炮防守防止黑卒进一步下来。下步棋红炮上下动走闲觉得可以。[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p6C/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 12 16]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment44_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_33]新招[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_35]炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment44_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_37][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]诠正着法，和[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment44_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_45]飞相关键。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_57]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_35]弈聪注：守和的关键点，不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相，红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着，或用炮拦黑炮。||||最先拆解的一路变化，可最后发现黑还是可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_39]和？好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会，之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注：该局面黑将再进一步后，红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉，红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门，已无法动了。||||分析：此时红前兵若再退后一步（19步红可不进兵，其它局面也很容易解决）？红炮若已在二路线呢？两种办法解决：1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将，之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位，红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮，慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_43]走闲着，先不到中间将，让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后，我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_44]这样如何？||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步，要平在四路才有用（黑炮在6路无法平）。第19回合红无法变招，||||||另一思路是红后兵不进，用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线，看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_46]这局势对红不利，红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路，黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的，可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_47]黑一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_65]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_37]？可能有问题。||||走闲着。红中兵未拱下去时更好。这样炮可再进一步，利于左右移动。[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_43]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_40]黑卒拱下去即和。||||黑另一种胜法是黑炮能否回到中路进攻。这样的话上步红炮进一较好，可拦黑炮，但黑炮可回打红兵，拦不住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment58_53]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment58_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_33]最初拆解时以为是劣着，后经诠正可成和局。||||该着应该是90年代左右出版的诠注本中的诠正着法，原谱走炮一平六成黑胜。诠正着法后以下通过黑主动兑子成和。10年以后（00年以后再版的还是以和棋为主，朱鹤洲中的江湖排局集成应该是最先诠为黑胜的）黑发现可以把炮移到红方左侧成杀。这应该是该局现被认定为黑胜的原因。||||黑炮在红方底线尽量不要去平中，在一二路线守住黑方的高卒就行，有退炮和拦黑炮的机会。||||该着出现的时机也可能在其它回合，其原理基本上差不多。||||炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment61_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_34]||[FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 14 17]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment61_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_37][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]诠正着法。和。见相同局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment61_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_45]下同主变。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment62_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_35]？劣，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_39]？可否平移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_41]之前飞相的话这步黑卒走下来后能有机会平炮打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_42]此时红炮在1/2路就好了。可直接退炮打卒，往上推第17回合是否有问题？[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_45][FEN\u003D5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment63_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_46]！黑胜。||||蒋朱裘版本此时走卒4平5兑子（黑飞相略有不同）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_49]红一将一杀，必须变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_33]弈聪注：原谱着法，黑胜。这步棋看不出它的作用。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_42]百局第2局红车杀黑车，劣着，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_33]新招。同帅六平五原理一样。在黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相均可。||诠注本的胜法中有一种是相未飞，炮还在中路，致使黑卒攻下来若飞相炮在中路没机会退炮做好打卒的准备。不飞相直接被吃了，后面根本无法防守。[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76_58]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_31]心谱原谱着法。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p1C5/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment77_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_31]和。||||[FEN\u003D2b1k4/5P2c/9/3P5/9/9/9/4B4/4K4/9 b - - 6 28]蒋朱裘90年版心谱刊注着法，和。[/FEN]||||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN]||||炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment78_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_35]诠正着法，和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_37][FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]和。见相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment78_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_46]诠正着法，黑胜。||||白周版本此时黑变招走该着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment80_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment80_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_31]败着。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p1C5/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment82_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment82_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment83_58]心谱第5变红变亦黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment83_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment84_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment84_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment85_52]心谱第4变黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment85_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment86_54]4、6路同时叫杀，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment86_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment87_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_27]劣。黑胜。||||[FEN\u003D9/3k1P3/9/3C5/2b6/9/3p5/4B4/3K1p3/9 b - - 12 26]蒋朱裘90年版心谱刊注着法，和。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/5P3/b8/9/9/6B2/4p4/8C/5p3/3K5 b - - 4 22]竹谱变九，和。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment88_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_31]炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment88_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment88_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment90_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment90_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment91_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment91_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment92_70]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment92_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment93_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment93_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment94_38]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment94_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment95_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment95_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment96_30]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment96_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment96_46]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment96_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_51]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment98_34]败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment98_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment98_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment98_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99_37]错失胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment99_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99_43]竹谱变九，和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment99_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment100_28]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment100_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment100_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment100_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_45]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment101_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment102_26]红胜。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/4P4/b4P3/9/9/9/3p1c3/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 3 21]竹谱变八，红胜。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/9/5P3/9/2p1C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 11 16]竹谱变十一，红胜。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/4P4/9/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 15 18]竹谱变十二，红胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment102_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment102_27]以下黑有三种应着均难逃败北下場。[/DhtmlXQ_comment102_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment102_41]红胜。竹谱变八。[/DhtmlXQ_comment102_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment103_51]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment103_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment104_41]竹谱变八，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment104_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment105_31]红胜。竹谱变十一。||||注解合并：||竹谱变十一，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment105_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment106_35]红胜定。竹谱变十二。||||注解合并：||竹谱变十二，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment106_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment107_25]黑胜。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b4c3/9/6P2/9/3p5/4B4/5C3/4K4 b - - 1 19]杨明忠03年版心谱刊注着法，和。[/FEN]||||炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment107_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment107_26]让红多走一步炮五进三即成相似局面。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/4C4/9/6P2/p8/4B4/5p3/3K3c1 w - - 8 14]相似局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment107_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment107_27]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment107_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment107_31][FEN\u003D4k4/5C3/b5P2/9/9/6P2/2p6/4B4/5p3/4K2c1 b - - 13 17]相同局面，黑胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment107_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment107_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment107_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment108_52]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment108_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment112_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment112_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment114_31]红再回到一二路线，已白白损失步数。||||黑为了防止红兵往中间走，黑宫心卒即使红炮不打，也会移到6路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment114_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment114_35]红相也飞不了。不动兵只能动炮走闲着。后兵能移到中间就好了。往上推应该是第13步炮一平五损失步数了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment114_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment114_39]拦炮就进卒，二头顾不了。走其它闲着黑炮也平中将。[/DhtmlXQ_comment114_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment114_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment114_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment115_25]附录：录成陈广仁的修改局局势。[/DhtmlXQ_comment115_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment115_28]陈广仁把三气周瑜的红后兵前移一步，形成该局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment115_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment115_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment115_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment116_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment116_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment117_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment117_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment118_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment118_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment119_31]进后兵挡中路来不及。只能平中炮。这是与三气周瑜原局的区别。[/DhtmlXQ_comment119_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment119_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment119_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment120_36]黑下步即杀，飞相来不及。[/DhtmlXQ_comment120_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment121_24][FEN\u003D2b1k4/5P3/9/4P4/9/2B6/9/3p5/4K1p2/9 w - - 8 26]暂诠为和棋主变着法。[/FEN]||||||[FEN\u003D9/4P4/3k5/4c4/2b6/2B6/9/9/3Cp4/5K3 w - - 0 33]心谱1本佯和局。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment121_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment121_25]炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment121_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment121_27]诠正着法，和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment121_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment121_52]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment121_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment122_35]红还是打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment122_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment122_38]黑不进卒的话只能退炮或走闲。||||进卒后黑只能从红两侧进攻取胜。红炮可长拦。[/DhtmlXQ_comment122_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment122_69]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment122_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment123_64]这样黑反而不利。[/DhtmlXQ_comment123_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment123_77]红已胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment123_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment124_27]黑胜？||整理时发现第21回合红方可变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment124_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment124_41]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment124_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment124_44]该招由yjr123提出。||||以下经拆解就为黑胜。红只能前面变招了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment124_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment124_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment124_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment125_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment125_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment126_74]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment126_74]
[DhtmlXQ_comment127_51]亦可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment127_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment128_57]不变作和！[/DhtmlXQ_comment128_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment129_50]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment129_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment129_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment129_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment130_50]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment130_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment130_57]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment130_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment132_41]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment132_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment132_42]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment132_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment132_47]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment132_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment132_51]这样黑不利！[/DhtmlXQ_comment132_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment133_41]！？[/DhtmlXQ_comment133_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment133_42]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment133_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment134_53]双方不变，纷和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment134_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment134_66]心谱1本佯和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment134_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment134_67]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment134_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment135_64]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment135_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment136_51]心谱2变黑变亦佯和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment136_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment137_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment137_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_27]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment138_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment138_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment139_33]先帅平中再想打法赶卒，黑进卒吃红相还是快了一步。[/DhtmlXQ_comment139_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment139_40]黑已胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment139_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment139_51]红无子可动。只能动该兵，其它三子没法动。平三也一样。[/DhtmlXQ_comment139_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment139_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment139_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment140_68]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment140_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment141_28]红可和。||||还不如第12回合直接炮8进3。此时红炮在黑方卒线的位置要好于在红方兵线的位置。相当于在相似局面中让红方多走了一步。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/5p3/3K3c1 w - - 6 13]相似局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment141_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment141_42]||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/5C3/5P3/6B2/9/3p5/6p2/5Kc2 w - - 20 20]相似局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment141_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment141_43]可炮四平三，见相似局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment141_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment141_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment141_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment142_53]不让黑卒占心，黑要杀只能运炮到红方左侧，这样红胜机会反而大一点。[/DhtmlXQ_comment142_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment142_62]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment142_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_30]黑若再退炮白走了。不走这步，只能平卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment143_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_43]走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment143_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_51]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment143_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_89]即可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment143_89]
[DhtmlXQ_comment144_29]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment144_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment144_40][FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/5C3/5P3/6B2/9/3p5/6p2/5Kc2 w - - 22 21]相似局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment144_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment144_41]可相三退一复杂一点，红方有优势。[/DhtmlXQ_comment144_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment144_44]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment144_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment145_35]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment145_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment146_31]可进后兵再平四打卒。帅居中不急。[/DhtmlXQ_comment146_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment146_33]这步是真正的败着。||||再平兵打卒，与这步先进后兵再平四打卒步数一样。但红炮在卒线再飞相至三路多了一个炮平三打黑7路卒的棋。（平前兵打卒以后是前兵平五挡将才能飞相，被黑象一飞只能又平移，红没机会飞相，走后兵可后兵平五再飞相用相当炮架守三路线）||||[FEN\u003D4k4/5C3/b5P2/9/9/6P2/2p6/4B4/5p3/4K2c1 b - - 13 17]相同局面，黑可胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment146_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment147_38]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment147_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment148_34]先复制过来。[/DhtmlXQ_comment148_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment148_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment148_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment153_34]上步走炮四进二时。黑方应以炮8退9取胜。||||现黑方应以同样的招法看一下区别。[/DhtmlXQ_comment153_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment153_35]上步炮四进二时，这步平四刚好打黑卒，黑只能卒6平7。[/DhtmlXQ_comment153_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment153_39]与17回合炮四进二时的区别。||||下步黑应以卒3进1时碰到红一将一杀了，待拆解。||这样的话第16回合红只能变招了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment153_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment153_49]红好象是一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment153_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment154_40]除此其它也没好招。改走其它，可能只是走子顺序不同而已。[/DhtmlXQ_comment154_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment154_46]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment154_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment155_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment155_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment156_40]和？下未折解略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment156_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment157_44]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment157_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment158_24][FEN\u003D2bk5/4P4/5P3/9/9/9/9/9/3c5/4K4 b - - 0 29]心谱第3变黑又变和。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment158_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment158_57]心谱第3变黑又变和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment158_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment159_54]按古时捉一不捉二，二捉一还捉的惯例，双方不变可作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment159_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment160_31]最后殊途同归。[/DhtmlXQ_comment160_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment160_63]按二打一还打作和。现棋规应由黑方变招。变红兵六进一立负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment160_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment161_22][FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/2B6/6P2/7c1/p3p3C/3K5 b - - 7 14]竹谱变七，红胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment161_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment161_27]红胜定。竹谱变七。||||注解合并：||竹谱变七，红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment161_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment162_21][FEN\u003D5k3/9/b3P4/6P2/4C4/9/9/9/4p4/3K1p1c1 w - - 4 19]渊谱第3局炮不打象黑胜着法[/FEN]||||以下着法不细拆解。[/DhtmlXQ_comment162_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment162_31]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment162_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment162_33]至此红相被白吃了。前面二回合中红兵三进一可不急走。先动相。[/DhtmlXQ_comment162_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment162_36]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment162_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment163_38]渊谱第3局炮不打象黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment163_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment164_19]原谱认为炮一平七可以弈成和局。||||该变全部诠注本都认为是黑胜。其它版本的主变着法略。基本上差不多。主要争论点在炮四平九的变化中。||||[FEN\u003D9/3k5/9/9/9/9/9/9/3p1K3/1C7 b - - 1 36]百局第1局，和[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/3k5/5P3/5P3/3C5/9/9/2c6/4p4/3K1p3 w - - 4 22]朱蒋裘87年版本认为该变黑胜着法[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4Ck3/4P4/9/9/9/9/9/2p6/3K1p3/9 b - - 6 31]董志新88年百局版本认为该变真和着法[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment164_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment164_20]此处黑方亦可改走车1进2||||弈聪注：车1进2？很多诠注本认为可走车1进2取胜。可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment164_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment164_23]古谱着法，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment164_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment164_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment164_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment165_38]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment165_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment166_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment166_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment167_26]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment167_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment167_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment167_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment168_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment168_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment169_32]黑不必演成着法循环的和局，而应走卒5平6。[/DhtmlXQ_comment169_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment169_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment169_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment170_30]这着进炮是本局正变的关键错着，从而失去了黑方取胜的良机。黑方应改走炮3平4。[/DhtmlXQ_comment170_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment170_46]如黑方改走炮5退2？则兵四进一！[/DhtmlXQ_comment170_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment170_50]双方不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment170_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment171_47]黑有两种应法[/DhtmlXQ_comment171_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment171_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment171_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment172_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment172_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment173_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment173_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment174_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment174_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment175_53]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment175_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment176_55]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment176_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment177_47]此时红方应走兵六平五，亦可兵六进一。[/DhtmlXQ_comment177_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment177_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment177_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment178_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment178_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment179_60]大错！应改炮8平3催杀，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment179_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment179_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment179_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment180_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment180_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment181_71]百局第1局官和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment181_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment184_23]新着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment184_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment184_48]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment184_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment185_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment185_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment186_48]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment186_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment187_44]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment187_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment187_61]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment187_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment188_39]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment188_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment189_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment189_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment190_20]黑若车1进1同车1进2。[/DhtmlXQ_comment190_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment190_27][FEN\u003D4k4/5P3/9/9/4C4/2B6/6P2/7c1/3p1p3/4K4 w - - 15 21]杨明忠版本中的黑胜着法[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment190_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment190_33]更佳，已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment190_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment191_45]和。黑平1可不变和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment191_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment192_39]不变和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment192_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment193_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment193_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment194_41]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment194_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment195_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment195_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment196_43]红已胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment196_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment196_71]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment196_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment197_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment197_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment198_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment198_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment199_15]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment199_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment200_21]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment200_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment201_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment201_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment202_10]红无杀，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment202_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment203_9]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment203_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment204_13]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment204_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment205_13]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment205_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment206_7]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment206_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment207_9]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment207_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment208_14]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment208_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment209_8]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment209_8]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_owner][/DhtmlXQ_owner]
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作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2018-10-4 22:16
是考虑过以上象为正变。中间拆解过多，重复局面很多，有点凌乱，删掉又可惜。有新变化时再考虑。暂时先这样算了。先拆解其它的局去了。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-10-5 10:53
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2018-10-5 11:30 编辑

51樓22回合黑方大漏

作者: 邢春波 时间: 2018-10-5 18:24

聨吟客发表于 2018-10-5 10:53
51樓22回合黑方大漏

50楼就这样，所以我说有点乱，不是大漏是走不通

作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2018-10-5 19:05
是象棋桥软件的问题。变化也是从该贴中直接导出再导入到象棋桥中的，未去检查。导出再导入经常会多出一些招法。是不是修改过多的缘故。

作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2018-10-5 19:19
重新编辑了一下。

作者: 邢春波 时间: 2018-10-5 20:46

chouzhouyu 发表于 2018-10-5 19:19
重新编辑了一下。

有些变化依然不正确，或含糊不清

作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2018-10-6 00:24
原先分析中还有一种思路，现发一下，仅供参考。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment39]与相似局面相比，兵五进一，象1退3（或进3）交换了一手。||||[FEN=2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/9/3p5/C4p3/4Kc3 b - - 21 21]相似局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_39][FEN=4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]相同局面，黑胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_40]黑胜。以下黑有卒4进1的杀着，红以下只能长杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_67]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_38]红炮将后回原位，黑还是卒4进1。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_31]弈聪注：这步进兵感觉有问题，不进兵更利于防守，多了一个炮可在兵前打卒的机会且炮可在该线左右移动相当于多了一路活动范围。可动炮走闲着。但红若想取胜的话进兵也可以。||||再注：原先拆解时，感觉这步进兵有问题，不利于炮的移动，这步先进帅，再动炮至卒线平移是否可行。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_32]弈聪注：下步红方的应着各诠注本基本上是炮平五或平六，炮平五可以说是防止黑卒占心使红帅动不了，但可以走帅六平五替代。炮平六根本看不出它的作用。炮留在一二路线更好，以后万一黑卒走下来，可以退炮防守防止黑卒进一步下来。下步棋红炮上下动走闲觉得可以。[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p6C/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 12 16]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment5_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_33]新招[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]||弈聪注：守和的关键点，不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相，红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着，或用炮拦黑炮。||||最先拆解的一路变化，可最后发现黑还是可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]||分析中的第1种运炮至二路线的办法，第16回合先进帅，再动炮至卒线平移是否可行。||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p6C/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 11 16]1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]相同局面，黑胜。[/FEN]||||和？好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会，之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注：该局面黑将再进一步后，红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉，红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门，已无法动了。||||分析：此时红前兵若再退后一步（19步红可不进兵，其它局面也很容易解决）？红炮若已在二路线呢？两种办法解决：1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN=2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将，之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位，红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮，慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_37]？可能有问题。||||走闲着。红中兵未拱下去时更好。这样炮可再进一步，利于左右移动。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_43]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_40]黑卒拱下去即和。||||黑另一种胜法是黑炮能否回到中路进攻。这样的话上步红炮进一较好，可拦黑炮，但黑炮可回打红兵，拦不住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN]，目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位，防止黑方的二鬼拍门。||||注解合并：||原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN=4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN]，目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位，防止黑方的二鬼拍门。||||[FEN=2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment12_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_39]从这里开始细拆解。或从第14回合开始，看黑能否变招。||||注解合并：||诠正着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_40]这步若卒6平5，应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮，最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_41]这局面红能否走成？||这局面红能否守和？||||注解合并：||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/2B6/9/3p5/C4p3/4K1c2 b - - 19 20]相似局面。[/FEN]||||和。||||以下为拆解时的一些变化。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_42][FEN=2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]暂拆解出的该路和棋主变着法？[/FEN]，[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_46]有步黑炮平7路再退一逼兑红炮的棋。黑是否可行。可行的话又成黑胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_50]这步黑有否变招余地。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_52]目的是黑卒下步平中做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_53]诠正着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_54]另一论友也拆解到这一路变化中，后经 yjr123指出，红还可胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_59]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_66]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_54]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_55]yjr123指出仍然和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_55]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_63]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_64]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_52]再退炮想办法灭兵。||||红两兵换一象，应和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_53]红优。应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_57]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_56]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_53]劣。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_61]另一红兵也被灭，[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_57]和还是黑负？黑方是一打兵一杀吧。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_46]拆解为和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_51]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_45]直接将拆解还是不行，可能还是要继续走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_51]红是一将一捉吧。若是再平炮走闲着，还是回到前面的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_57]一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_62]暂到此。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_49]||還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_46]诠正着法，黑胜。||||白周版本此时黑变招走该着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_34]亦和，变化与象1退3差不多。||||有人建议以象1进3为主变和棋较好。当时拆解时是按原有棋谱象1退3这路变化而来。象1退3是古谱竹谱1本的着法。后来朱鹤洲等诠注着法时改成象1进3了。导至后续局面除了黑象位置不同外，其它各子位置相同。相当于两种着法后面有一样的招法。||||[FEN=5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 14 17]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment44_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_35]诠正着法，同帅六平五走子顺序不同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_37][FEN=5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]相同局面[/FEN]||||以下为不同于象1退3（第17回合）的一些变化。转自论坛，未仔细核对。当时已拆解出象1进3中的一路和法，未注意象1退3的变化，后来发现象1退3也有相同局面，是根据各诠注本录入的，作为黑胜，两者其实无多大区别。||可参考象1进3那路变化走和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_43]这样可以和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_43]要着[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_44]可能黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_62]不变和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_35]诠正着法，与相五进七只是走子顺序不同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_37]诠正着法。||||[FEN=5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment48_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_45]黑胜，下见相同局面。||||[FEN=5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment49_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_35]？劣，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_39]？可否平移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]之前飞相的话这步黑卒走下来后能有机会平炮打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_42]此时红炮在1/2路就好了。可直接退炮打卒，往上推第17回合是否有问题？[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_45][FEN=5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment50_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_46]||蒋朱裘版本此时走卒4平5兑子（黑飞相略有不同）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment59_49]红一将一杀，必须变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment59_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment59_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment59_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_28]黑胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment60_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_37]和？形成相同局面[/DhtmlXQ_comment60_37]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]删去所有旁支变化，最后会发一个汇总贴。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34]有不同變化否||||黑象当炮架，黑炮可打红相。红相以后会飞至七路，除此飞上或飞下无多大关系，防止黑卒走中象位。可能略有不同。现拆解另一路是否可和再拆解该路不迟。||||||[FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 14 17]相同局面[/FEN]||||||该局面有相同局面，开始未加注意。原先根据各诠注本录入作为黑胜。根据论友提醒，可能略有不同。后面走炮五退二再平炮五平九的是我后来想到了，在相同局面中还未有。先复制各诠注本的着法过来拆解参考。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]？黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]？可否平移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]之前飞相的话这步黑卒走下来后能有机会平炮打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_42]此时红炮在1/2路就好了。可直接退炮打卒，往上推第17回合是否有问题？[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_45][FEN\u003D5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment1_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]！||||蒋朱裘版本此时走卒4平5兑子（黑飞相略有不同）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_49]红一将一杀，必须变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_45]下同主变。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN]||||以下再复制。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_46]！||||蒋朱裘版本此时走卒4平5兑子（黑飞相略有不同）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN]，目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位，防止黑方的二鬼拍门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_39]诠正着法||||从这里开始细拆解。或从第14回合开始，看黑能否变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_40]这步若卒6平5，应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮，最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_41]这局面红能否走成？||这局面红能否守和？||||拆解时参考用：||||第25回合红应炮八平五仍和，第21回合黑炮6平9，如红仍然用炮走闲着则负。||||可能要在23或24回合提前炮平五\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_42][FEN\u003D2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]暂拆解出的该路和棋主变着法？[/FEN]，[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_46]有步黑炮平7路再退一逼兑红炮的棋。黑是否可行。可行的话又成黑胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_50]这步黑有否变招余地。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_52]目的是黑卒下步平中做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_53]诠正着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_66]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_54]另一论友也拆解到这一路变化中，后经 yjr123指出，红还可胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_59]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_55]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_63]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_64]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_54]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_55]yjr123指出仍然和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_52]再退炮想办法灭兵。||||红两兵换一象，应和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_53]红优。应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_57]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_56]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_53]劣。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_61]另一红兵也被灭，[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_57]和还是黑负？黑方是一打兵一杀吧。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_46]拆解为和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_51]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_45]直接将拆解还是不行，可能还是要继续走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_51]红是一将一捉吧。若是再平炮走闲着，还是回到前面的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_57]一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_62]暂到此。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_49]||還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_35]弈聪注：守和的关键点，不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相，红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着，或用炮拦黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_39]和？好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会，之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注：该局面黑将再进一步后，红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉，红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门，已无法动了。||||分析：此时红前兵若再退后一步（19步红可不进兵，其它局面也很容易解决）？红炮若已在二路线呢？两种办法解决：1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将，之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位，红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮，慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_43]走闲着，先不到中间将，让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后，我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_44]这样如何？||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步，要平在四路才有用（黑炮在6路无法平）。第19回合红无法变招，||||||另一思路是红后兵不进，用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线，看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_46]这局势对红不利，红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路，黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的，可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_28]下会走成相同局面，暂删去。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_28]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment51_61]不變和[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_61]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_69]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_69]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-10-6 10:48
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]删去所有旁支变化，最后会发一个汇总贴。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34]有不同變化否||||黑象当炮架，黑炮可打红相。红相以后会飞至七路，除此飞上或飞下无多大关系，防止黑卒走中象位。可能略有不同。现拆解另一路是否可和再拆解该路不迟。||||||[FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 14 17]相同局面[/FEN]||||||该局面有相同局面，开始未加注意。原先根据各诠注本录入作为黑胜。根据论友提醒，可能略有不同。后面走炮五退二再平炮五平九的是我后来想到了，在相同局面中还未有。先复制各诠注本的着法过来拆解参考。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]？黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]？可否平移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]之前飞相的话这步黑卒走下来后能有机会平炮打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_42]此时红炮在1/2路就好了。可直接退炮打卒，往上推第17回合是否有问题？[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_45][FEN\u003D5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment1_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]！||||蒋朱裘版本此时走卒4平5兑子（黑飞相略有不同）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_49]红一将一杀，必须变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_45]下同主变。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN]||||以下再复制。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_46]！||||蒋朱裘版本此时走卒4平5兑子（黑飞相略有不同）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN]，目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位，防止黑方的二鬼拍门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_39]诠正着法||||从这里开始细拆解。或从第14回合开始，看黑能否变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_40]这步若卒6平5，应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮，最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_41]这局面红能否走成？||这局面红能否守和？||||拆解时参考用：||||第25回合红应炮八平五仍和，第21回合黑炮6平9，如红仍然用炮走闲着则负。||||可能要在23或24回合提前炮平五\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_42][FEN\u003D2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]暂拆解出的该路和棋主变着法？[/FEN]，[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_46]有步黑炮平7路再退一逼兑红炮的棋。黑是否可行。可行的话又成黑胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_50]这步黑有否变招余地。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_52]目的是黑卒下步平中做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_53]诠正着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_66]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_54]另一论友也拆解到这一路变化中，后经 yjr123指出，红还可胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_59]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_55]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_63]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_64]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_54]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_55]yjr123指出仍然和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_52]再退炮想办法灭兵。||||红两兵换一象，应和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_53]红优。应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_57]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_56]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_53]劣。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_61]另一红兵也被灭，[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_57]和还是黑负？黑方是一打兵一杀吧。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_46]拆解为和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_51]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_45]直接将拆解还是不行，可能还是要继续走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_51]红是一将一捉吧。若是再平炮走闲着，还是回到前面的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_57]一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_62]暂到此。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_49]||還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_35]弈聪注：守和的关键点，不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相，红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着，或用炮拦黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_39]和？好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会，之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注：该局面黑将再进一步后，红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉，红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门，已无法动了。||||分析：此时红前兵若再退后一步（19步红可不进兵，其它局面也很容易解决）？红炮若已在二路线呢？两种办法解决：1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将，之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位，红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮，慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_43]走闲着，先不到中间将，让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后，我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_44]这样如何？||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步，要平在四路才有用（黑炮在6路无法平）。第19回合红无法变招，||||||另一思路是红后兵不进，用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线，看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_46]这局势对红不利，红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路，黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的，可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_28]下会走成相同局面，暂删去。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_28]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-10-6 10:54
亞規可這樣走
大陸規不行
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]删去所有旁支变化，最后会发一个汇总贴。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34]有不同變化否||||黑象当炮架，黑炮可打红相。红相以后会飞至七路，除此飞上或飞下无多大关系，防止黑卒走中象位。可能略有不同。现拆解另一路是否可和再拆解该路不迟。||||||[FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 14 17]相同局面[/FEN]||||||该局面有相同局面，开始未加注意。原先根据各诠注本录入作为黑胜。根据论友提醒，可能略有不同。后面走炮五退二再平炮五平九的是我后来想到了，在相同局面中还未有。先复制各诠注本的着法过来拆解参考。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]？黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]？可否平移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]之前飞相的话这步黑卒走下来后能有机会平炮打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_42]此时红炮在1/2路就好了。可直接退炮打卒，往上推第17回合是否有问题？[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_45][FEN\u003D5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment1_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]！||||蒋朱裘版本此时走卒4平5兑子（黑飞相略有不同）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_49]红一将一杀，必须变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_45]下同主变。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN]||||以下再复制。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_46]！||||蒋朱裘版本此时走卒4平5兑子（黑飞相略有不同）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN]，目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位，防止黑方的二鬼拍门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_39]诠正着法||||从这里开始细拆解。或从第14回合开始，看黑能否变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_40]这步若卒6平5，应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮，最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_41]这局面红能否走成？||这局面红能否守和？||||拆解时参考用：||||第25回合红应炮八平五仍和，第21回合黑炮6平9，如红仍然用炮走闲着则负。||||可能要在23或24回合提前炮平五\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_42][FEN\u003D2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]暂拆解出的该路和棋主变着法？[/FEN]，[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_46]有步黑炮平7路再退一逼兑红炮的棋。黑是否可行。可行的话又成黑胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_50]这步黑有否变招余地。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_52]目的是黑卒下步平中做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_53]诠正着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_66]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_54]另一论友也拆解到这一路变化中，后经 yjr123指出，红还可胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_59]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_55]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_63]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_64]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_54]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_55]yjr123指出仍然和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_52]再退炮想办法灭兵。||||红两兵换一象，应和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_53]红优。应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_57]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_56]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_53]劣。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_61]另一红兵也被灭，[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_57]和还是黑负？黑方是一打兵一杀吧。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_46]拆解为和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_51]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_45]直接将拆解还是不行，可能还是要继续走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_51]红是一将一捉吧。若是再平炮走闲着，还是回到前面的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_57]一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_62]暂到此。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_49]||還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_35]弈聪注：守和的关键点，不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相，红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着，或用炮拦黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_39]和？好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会，之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注：该局面黑将再进一步后，红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉，红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门，已无法动了。||||分析：此时红前兵若再退后一步（19步红可不进兵，其它局面也很容易解决）？红炮若已在二路线呢？两种办法解决：1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将，之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位，红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮，慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_43]走闲着，先不到中间将，让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后，我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_44]这样如何？||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步，要平在四路才有用（黑炮在6路无法平）。第19回合红无法变招，||||||另一思路是红后兵不进，用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线，看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_46]这局势对红不利，红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路，黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的，可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_28]下会走成相同局面，暂删去。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_28]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment57_61]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_69]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_69]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment49]一將一打象||亞規允許||大陸規則不允許[/DhtmlXQ_comment49]
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2018-10-6 12:38

聨吟客发表于 2018-10-6 10:54
亞規可這樣走
大陸規不行

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]删去所有旁支变化，最后会发一个汇总贴。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34]有不同變化否||||黑象当炮架，黑炮可打红相。红相以后会飞至七路，除此飞上或飞下无多大关系，防止黑卒走中象位。可能略有不同。现拆解另一路是否可和再拆解该路不迟。||||||[FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 14 17]相同局面[/FEN]||||||该局面有相同局面，开始未加注意。原先根据各诠注本录入作为黑胜。根据论友提醒，可能略有不同。后面走炮五退二再平炮五平九的是我后来想到了，在相同局面中还未有。先复制各诠注本的着法过来拆解参考。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]？黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]？可否平移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]之前飞相的话这步黑卒走下来后能有机会平炮打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_42]此时红炮在1/2路就好了。可直接退炮打卒，往上推第17回合是否有问题？[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_45][FEN\u003D5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment1_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]！||||蒋朱裘版本此时走卒4平5兑子（黑飞相略有不同）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_49]红一将一杀，必须变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_45]下同主变。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN]||||以下再复制。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_46]！||||蒋朱裘版本此时走卒4平5兑子（黑飞相略有不同）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN]，目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位，防止黑方的二鬼拍门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_39]诠正着法||||从这里开始细拆解。或从第14回合开始，看黑能否变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_40]这步若卒6平5，应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮，最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_41]这局面红能否走成？||这局面红能否守和？||||拆解时参考用：||||第25回合红应炮八平五仍和，第21回合黑炮6平9，如红仍然用炮走闲着则负。||||可能要在23或24回合提前炮平五\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_42][FEN\u003D2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]暂拆解出的该路和棋主变着法？[/FEN]，[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_46]有步黑炮平7路再退一逼兑红炮的棋。黑是否可行。可行的话又成黑胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_50]这步黑有否变招余地。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_52]目的是黑卒下步平中做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_53]诠正着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_66]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_54]另一论友也拆解到这一路变化中，后经 yjr123指出，红还可胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_59]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_55]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_63]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_64]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_54]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_55]yjr123指出仍然和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_52]再退炮想办法灭兵。||||红两兵换一象，应和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_53]红优。应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_57]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_56]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_53]劣。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_61]另一红兵也被灭，[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_57]和还是黑负？黑方是一打兵一杀吧。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_46]拆解为和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_51]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_45]直接将拆解还是不行，可能还是要继续走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_51]红是一将一捉吧。若是再平炮走闲着，还是回到前面的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_57]一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_62]暂到此。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_49]||還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_35]弈聪注：守和的关键点，不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相，红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着，或用炮拦黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_39]和？好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会，之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注：该局面黑将再进一步后，红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉，红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门，已无法动了。||||分析：此时红前兵若再退后一步（19步红可不进兵，其它局面也很容易解决）？红炮若已在二路线呢？两种办法解决：1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将，之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位，红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮，慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_43]走闲着，先不到中间将，让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后，我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_44]这样如何？||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步，要平在四路才有用（黑炮在6路无法平）。第19回合红无法变招，||||||另一思路是红后兵不进，用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线，看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_46]这局势对红不利，红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路，黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的，可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_28]下会走成相同局面，暂删去。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_28]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2018-10-6 13:13
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百密一疏(或不只?)

呵呵

作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2018-10-13 22:37
原先发的第二思路中最后结局最近拆解发现是黑胜。

作者: chouzhouyu 时间: 2018-10-15 19:28
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]该局排局界黑胜好象已是定论。在87年版的朱蒋裘版本中为和棋结论，之后出版的诠注本陆续诠正为黑胜了。查我现有的资料应该是朱鹤洲的江湖排局集成最先诠为黑胜的（后发现曹殿举95版的江湖棋势揭秘中有该局的详细变化）。我当时计划拆解江湖四大排局名著时录到该局时，感觉黑胜中的着法有问题，曾在华工网中发贴求助，但反应不多，便没有继续拆解下去。后又发现竹香斋中的寒松卧壑有问题，在华工网中发贴后提及该局，由聊吟客发贴进行讨论，经yjr123提出一些看法，使我又继续拆解下去，现汇总各位论友的观点，把该局暂诠正为和局。也许有新的黑胜招法未发现。||||该局很多地方出现炮一平五的招法，原先以为是劣着，直接注明黑胜了，后发现可通过中炮退至帅前再平到左侧防止黑卒进到二路线，出现该招的地方有些可能还适用，特意汇总了一下。||||诠正着法：||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p6cC/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 3 12]诠正着法分支处[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p6C/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 10 15]诠正和棋着法1分支处[/FEN]||||[FEN=5k3/9/b5P2/4P4/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]诠正和棋着法1-1分支处[/FEN]||||[FEN=2b1k4/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/9/3p5/C4p3/4Kc3 w - - 22 21]诠正和棋着法1-1-1[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/9/3p5/4Cp3/4Kc3 b - - 23 22]诠正和棋着法1-1-2[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/4P4/9/9/1p6C/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]诠正和棋着法1-2初始[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p6C/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 11 16]诠正和棋着法1-3初始[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/6P2/b8/9/4P4/9/1p6C/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]诠正和棋着法1-4初始[/FEN]||||[FEN=2b1k4/5P3/9/4P4/9/2B6/9/3p5/4K1p2/9 w - - 8 26]诠正和棋着法2[/FEN]||||||古谱和各诠注本部分着法如下：||[FEN=2b1k3C/9/r4RP2/9/9/9/p5P2/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 w - - 0 9]百局变招分支处[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/3k5/9/9/9/9/9/9/3p1K3/1C7 b - - 1 36]百局第1局，和[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/4PP3/3C5/2b6/9/9/4p4/5p3/4K2c1 w - - 0 21]百局第2局，黑胜[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/3P1P3/9/9/2b6/9/3C5/4B4/4p4/3K1p3 w - - 1 31]白周版本黑胜主变[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p6cC/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 3 12]心谱分支处[/FEN]||||[FEN=2b1k4/9/4P4/9/2P6/9/9/4B4/3c1p3/2p1K4 w - - 2 29]心谱认为黑胜着法/心谱第5变红变亦黑胜。[/FEN]||||||发现黑胜着法主要为：黑卒能有机会走到红帅九宫处，一种胜法是黑卒走到红士角位置时红相来不及飞直接被黑卒吃掉了，另一种是黑卒走到红方二路线，之后一卒定心，炮卒成杀。基于以上两点，拆解时，有机会就先飞相，另想有什么办法能使红炮走到二路线左铡防止黑卒进到二路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19]||该局是否是黑胜和和棋的结论主要看这路变化。||||[FEN=4k4/9/4PP3/3C5/2b6/9/9/4p4/5p3/4K2c1 w - - 0 21]百局第2局，黑胜[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/3k1P3/9/9/2b6/3C5/3p5/4B4/3K1p3/9 w - - 7 23]朱蒋裘87年版本认为该变和棋着法[/FEN]||||[FEN=5k3/9/b3P4/9/4C1P2/9/9/9/4pp3/3K3c1 w - - 2 18]董志新88年百局版本认为该变黑胜着法1（另一胜法为原谱胜法）[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/3k1P3/2P6/9/2b6/3C5/9/4B4/4p4/1c1p1K3 w - - 44 32]朱鹤洲99年版的江湖排局集成中诠为黑胜着法[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]以下有两种诠正着法（炮8退1和法为古谱着法，拆解着法差不多）[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24][FEN=2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]诠正和棋着法1[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30]蒋朱裘版本下回合走炮一平五，和。||||14、15回合黑走子顺序可调换一下。||||第16至18回合，红帅六平五，炮平中（或走闲），飞相三种着法的走子顺序有多种组合，局面略有差异，有的是直接导致胜和的关键。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31]和。||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN=4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN]，目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位，防止黑方的二鬼拍门。||||[FEN=2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]诠正着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40]这步若卒6平5，应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮，最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/2B6/9/3p5/C4p3/4K1c2 b - - 19 20]相似局面。[/FEN]||||和。||||以下为拆解时的一些变化。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42][FEN=2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]暂拆解出的该路和棋主变着法？[/FEN]，[/DhtmlXQ_comment42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52]目的是黑卒下步平中做杀。||||[FEN=2b6/3k5/5P3/4P4/9/2B6/3c5/3p5/1C3p3/4K4 w - - 28 24]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53]诠正着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_61]红优。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_54]另一论友也拆解到这一路变化中，后经 yjr123指出，红还可胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_59]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_55]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_63]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_64]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_60]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_54]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_55]yjr123指出仍然和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_56]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_53]劣。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_61]另一红兵也被灭，[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_57]和还是黑负？黑方是一打兵一杀吧。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_45]直接将拆解还是不行，可能还是要继续走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_51]红是一将一捉吧。若是再平炮走闲着，还是回到前面的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_57]一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_62]暂到此。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_49]||還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_46]诠正着法，黑胜。||||白周版本此时黑变招走该着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_34]亦和，变化与象1退3差不多。||||有人建议以象1进3为主变和棋较好。当时拆解时是按原有棋谱象1退3这路变化而来。象1退3是古谱竹谱1本的着法。后来朱鹤洲等诠注着法时改成象1进3了。导至后续局面除了黑象位置不同外，其它各子位置相同。相当于两种着法后面有一样的招法。||||[FEN=5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 14 17]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment24_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_35]诠正着法，同帅六平五走子顺序不同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_37][FEN=5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]相同局面[/FEN]||||以下为不同于象1退3（第17回合）的一些变化。转自论坛，未仔细核对。当时已拆解出象1进3中的一路和法，未注意象1退3的变化，后来发现象1退3也有相同局面，是根据各诠注本录入的，作为黑胜，两者其实无多大区别。||可参考象1进3那路变化走和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_43]这样可以和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_45][FEN=5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/9/3p5/1C3p3/4Kc3 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment24_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_49][FEN=5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/9/3p5/1C3p3/4Kc3 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment24_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_54]這樣強手[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_55][FEN=5k3/9/5P3/4P4/2b6/2B6/4c4/3p5/1C3p3/4K4 b - - 27 24]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment24_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_70]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_61]不變和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_65]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_75]||和\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_73]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_67]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_70]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_71]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_69]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_61]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_49]一將一打象||亞規允許||大陸規則不允許[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_43]要着[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_44]可能黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_62]不变和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_35]诠正着法，与相五进七只是走子顺序不同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_37]诠正着法。||||[FEN=5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment51_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_45]黑胜，下见相同局面。||||[FEN=5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment52_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_35]？劣，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_39]？可否平移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_41]之前飞相的话这步黑卒走下来后能有机会平炮打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_42]此时红炮在1/2路就好了。可直接退炮打卒，往上推第17回合是否有问题？[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_45][FEN=5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment53_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_46]||蒋朱裘版本此时走卒4平5兑子（黑飞相略有不同）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment58_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment58_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment60_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_49]红一将一杀，必须变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_31]和。||||弈聪注：这步进兵感觉有问题，不进兵更利于防守，多了一个炮可在兵前打卒的机会且炮可在该线左右移动相当于多了一路活动范围。可动炮走闲着。但红若想取胜的话进兵也可以。||||再注：原先拆解时，感觉这步进兵有问题，不利于炮的移动，这步先进帅，再动炮至卒线平移是否可行。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_32]弈聪注：下步红方的应着各诠注本基本上是炮平五或平六，炮平五可以说是防止黑卒占心使红帅动不了，但可以走帅六平五替代。炮平六根本看不出它的作用。炮留在一二路线更好，以后万一黑卒走下来，可以退炮防守防止黑卒进一步下来。下步棋红炮上下动走闲觉得可以。[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p6C/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 12 16]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment63_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_33]新招[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_37][FEN=5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]诠正着法，和[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment63_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_37]炮在右侧守的话，，黑将在5或6路线区别不大。[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_45]飞相关键。[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_57]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_37]和。见其它相同局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_35]黑胜。||||||弈聪注：守和的关键点，不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相，红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着，或用炮拦黑炮。||||再注：这时飞相有问题。黑卒3平4后不能炮退一守了。走炮一平二闲着可以。[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_37]平炮走闲，等着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_40]黑胜。红只能长杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_47]和。[FEN=5k3/9/5P3/4P4/2b6/2B6/4c4/3p5/1C3p3/4K4 b - - 27 24]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment67_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_41]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_63]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_39]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_40]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_68]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_68]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_69]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_86]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_86]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_56]红优。[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76_67]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_43]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_55]亚规判和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_39]炮可先到中间将再移到左边。这样黑将无法走上，无边就不容易打死。||||分析中的第1种运炮至二路线的办法，第16回合先进帅，再动炮至卒线平移是否可行。||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p6C/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 11 16]1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]相同局面，黑胜。[/FEN]||||和？好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会，之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注：该局面黑将再进一步后，红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉，红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门，已无法动了。||||分析：此时红前兵若再退后一步（19步红可不进兵，其它局面也很容易解决）？红炮若已在二路线呢？两种办法解决：1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN=2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将，之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位，红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮，慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment80_39]未拆解。应该黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment80_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_37]？可能有问题。||||走闲着。红中兵未拱下去时更好。这样炮可再进一步，利于左右移动。[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_43]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_40]黑卒拱下去即和。||||黑另一种胜法是黑炮能否回到中路进攻。这样的话上步红炮进一较好，可拦黑炮，但黑炮可回打红兵，拦不住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment82_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment82_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment83_53]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment83_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment86_33]最初拆解时以为是劣着，后经诠正可成和局。||||该着应该是90年代左右出版的诠注本中的诠正着法，原谱走炮一平六成黑胜。诠正着法后以下通过黑主动兑子成和。10年以后（00年以后再版的还是以和棋为主，朱鹤洲中的江湖排局集成应该是最先诠为黑胜的）黑发现可以把炮移到红方左侧成杀。这应该是该局现被认定为黑胜的原因。||||黑炮在红方底线尽量不要去平中，在一二路线守住黑方的高卒就行，有退炮和拦黑炮的机会。||||该着出现的时机也可能在其它回合，其原理基本上差不多。||||炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment86_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment86_34]||[FEN=5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 14 17]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment86_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment86_37][FEN=5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]诠正着法。和。见相同局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment86_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_45]下同主变。||||[FEN=5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment87_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_35]？劣，黑胜。||||[FEN=5k3/6P2/7c1/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K4 w - - 26 23]曹殿举95年版江湖棋势揭秘着法分支处，黑胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment88_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_39]？可否平移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment88_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_41]之前飞相的话这步黑卒走下来后能有机会平炮打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment88_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_42]此时红炮在1/2路就好了。可直接退炮打卒，往上推第17回合是否有问题？[/DhtmlXQ_comment88_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_45][FEN=5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment88_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_46]！黑胜。||||蒋朱裘版本此时走卒4平5兑子（黑飞相略有不同）。[/DhtmlXQ_comment88_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment88_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment90_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment90_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment91_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment91_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment92_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment92_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment93_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment93_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment94_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment94_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment95_66]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment95_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment96_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment96_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment98_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment98_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment100_49]红一将一杀，必须变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment100_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment100_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment100_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_33]新招。同帅六平五原理一样。在黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相均可。||诠注本的胜法中有一种是相未飞，炮还在中路（炮在右侧还是可以退一守和的），致使黑卒攻下来若飞相炮在中路没机会退炮做好打卒的准备。不飞相直接被吃了，后面根本无法防守。[/DhtmlXQ_comment101_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_41][FEN=5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/9/3p5/1C3p3/4Kc3 b - - 25 23]相同局面，和。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment101_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment102_33]弈聪注：原谱着法，黑胜。这步棋看不出它的作用。[/DhtmlXQ_comment102_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment102_42]百局第2局红车杀黑车，劣着，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment102_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment103_31]黑胜？||||拆解结果还是可和。下步红应以兵三进一。红不要轻易飞相即可。飞相后红炮居中将是，黑老将可平4，红被迫只能长杀作负了。不飞相可退炮守。[/DhtmlXQ_comment103_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment103_35]胜和待拆，见相同局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment103_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment104_33]同兵三进一。兵三进一若和的话，该变也和。||||上回合中红兵三进一，和（未细拆或者说拆解不出黑胜的着法）。这步也可走兵三进一，或动炮走闲。[/DhtmlXQ_comment104_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment105_33]飞相后，红炮不能居中将军了，会变成长杀。也不能退1防黑卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment105_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment105_39]与相似局面相比，兵五进一，象1退3（或进3）交换了一手。后来发现黑将位置不同，黑这路走法是先动炮的。着法有很大不同。||||[FEN=2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/9/3p5/C4p3/4Kc3 b - - 21 21]相似局面。[/FEN]||||原诠正着法1只包含象1退3，未包含象1进3的变化。可合并到该局面下面。初始局面略有不同。||||再注：原先拆解走这个变化到此为止，以为和原先拆解那路变化后续走法相同，最近想把象1退3和象1进3两种变化统一合并到该变下面。结果发现黑将位置不同。原先拆解的象1进3这路变化很难合并到该变下面。原先通过中炮将军（指16回合）移炮到九路线，黑是将5平6，这路变化是通过黑方卒线移到九路线，黑是先走炮6平7。相当于将5平6和将6平7走法对调了。象1进3那路原先拆解的和法是黑将不让它居中的，这路变化黑可先退炮，红炮无法居中将军让黑将移位。||||象1退3的变化虽然也可合并过来，但中间黑方有变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment105_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment105_40]好象是黑胜。黑炮压相眼后红没办法应付。||||[FEN=5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/9/3p5/2C2p3/4Kc3 b - - 21 21]原先拆解初始参考局面。[/FEN]||||拆解时发现很难还原到原先拆解的局面。若强行还原，走法不合常理。||||这又是一路新变化。[/DhtmlXQ_comment105_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment105_102]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment105_102]
[DhtmlXQ_comment106_52]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment106_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment108_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment108_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment109_45]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment109_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment110_44]？？这样走不合常理。||先备注拆解用：这样可和原先拆解的局面一样（炮位置略有差异，实质相同），兵三平四也不能走炮平中将军替代，黑可平中将。可能又是一路变化待拆解中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment110_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment111_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment111_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment112_41]炮平八路黑也继续想办法压相眼。[/DhtmlXQ_comment112_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment112_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment112_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment113_44]原先那路变化黑不能逼兑红炮。这次可以。[/DhtmlXQ_comment113_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment113_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment113_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment114_40][FEN=2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/9/3p5/C4p3/4Kc3 b - - 21 21]原先拆解初始参考局面。[/FEN]||||和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment114_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment114_47]下见相同局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment114_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment115_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment115_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment116_45]黑象飞上和飞下的区别。[/DhtmlXQ_comment116_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment116_53]红已占优。黑要防住红兵下去。[/DhtmlXQ_comment116_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment116_62]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment116_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment118_42]黑可以先退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment118_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment118_47]红兵是否要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment118_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment118_120]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment118_120]
[DhtmlXQ_comment119_48][FEN=2b6/3k5/5P3/4P4/9/2B6/3c5/3p5/1C3p3/4K4 w - - 28 24]相同局面[/FEN]||||前面三回合中黑方可变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment119_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment119_49]诠正着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment119_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment119_62]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment119_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment120_50]另一论友也拆解到这一路变化中，后经 yjr123指出，红还可胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment120_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment120_55]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment120_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment122_51]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment122_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment123_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment123_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment123_60]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment123_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment124_56]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment124_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment125_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment125_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment125_51]yjr123指出仍然和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment125_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment126_39][FEN=4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]相同局面，黑胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment126_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment127_40]黑胜。以下黑有卒4进1的杀着，红以下只能长杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment127_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment128_67]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment128_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment129_38]红炮将后回原位，黑还是卒4进1。[/DhtmlXQ_comment129_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment130_31]暂定为和棋。||||未仔细细拆。感觉应该黑胜，但拆解不出黑胜的着法。该路变化是红不飞相，可炮退一守。若是和棋。则该着走帅六平五，下面的飞相也可不走，动炮走闲，再退一守。||||||||红方不飞相，炮准备在右侧守和的话，黑取胜方法只能在中路进攻：利用炮高卒把红帅赶至六路，再用低卒定心，最后炮卒到4路成杀。||||拆解后红方走和的着法为：当黑方用上述思路想取胜时，红方移炮至黑方卒线，弃兵后可平炮将军打掉黑方一卒。||||若黑方老将移到4或6路，不让红方炮将军的机会呢？[/DhtmlXQ_comment130_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment130_37]或兵五进一。很多变化都是兵五进一和象进退对应的。[/DhtmlXQ_comment130_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment130_38]黑要取胜必须要走这步。目的不让红方通过弃兵居中将打掉黑卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment130_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment130_44]下步红若长拦炮，能拦住吗？||黑炮可再进一步，若拦可打红相。[/DhtmlXQ_comment130_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment130_45]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment130_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment130_66]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment130_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment131_49]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment131_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment131_50]不吃炮，红炮移到左侧守。||||黑有其它招法吗。[/DhtmlXQ_comment131_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment131_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment131_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment132_53]还原。[/DhtmlXQ_comment132_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment133_55]黑无法取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment133_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment133_63]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment133_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment134_38]先老将移位，再慢慢退炮到中间进攻呢。[/DhtmlXQ_comment134_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment134_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment134_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment135_49]黑卒无法走相位的话，和。黑进1红炮直接打了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment135_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment136_38]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment136_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment136_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment136_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment137_58]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment137_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_31]黑胜。||||心谱原谱着法。||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p1C5/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment138_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment139_31]和。||||[FEN=2b1k4/5P2c/9/3P5/9/9/9/4B4/4K4/9 b - - 6 28]蒋朱裘90年版心谱刊注着法，和。[/FEN]||||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN]||||炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment139_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment139_35]诠正着法，和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment139_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment139_37][FEN=2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]和。见相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment139_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment140_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment140_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment140_46]诠正着法，黑胜。||||白周版本此时黑变招走该着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment140_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment140_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment140_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment141_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment141_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment142_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment142_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_31]败着。||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p1C5/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment143_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment143_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment144_58]心谱第5变红变亦黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment144_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment145_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment145_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment146_52]心谱第4变黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment146_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment147_54]4、6路同时叫杀，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment147_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment148_34][FEN=4k4/9/b4P3/3CP4/9/9/9/4p4/5p3/4K2c1 w - - 0 20]曹殿举95年版江湖棋势揭秘着法，黑胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment148_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment148_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment148_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment149_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment149_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment150_25]黑胜，下略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment150_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment151_24]||||[FEN=2b1k4/5P3/9/4P4/9/2B6/9/3p5/4K1p2/9 w - - 8 26]暂诠为和棋主变着法。[/FEN]||||||[FEN=9/4P4/3k5/4c4/2b6/2B6/9/9/3Cp4/5K3 w - - 0 33]心谱1本佯和局。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment151_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment151_25]炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment151_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment151_27]诠正着法，和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment151_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment151_52]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment151_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment152_35]红还是打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment152_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment152_38]黑不进卒的话只能退炮或走闲。||||进卒后黑只能从红两侧进攻取胜。红炮可长拦。[/DhtmlXQ_comment152_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment152_69]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment152_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment153_64]这样黑反而不利。[/DhtmlXQ_comment153_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment153_77]红已胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment153_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment154_27]黑胜？||整理时发现第21回合红方可变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment154_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment154_41]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment154_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment154_44]该招由yjr123提出。||||以下经拆解就为黑胜。红只能前面变招了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment154_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment154_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment154_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment155_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment155_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment156_74]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment156_74]
[DhtmlXQ_comment157_51]亦可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment157_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment158_57]不变作和！[/DhtmlXQ_comment158_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment159_50]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment159_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment159_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment159_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment160_50]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment160_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment160_57]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment160_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment162_41]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment162_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment162_48]黑已胜。下红没有好的应招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment162_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment162_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment162_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment163_42]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment163_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment163_47]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment163_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment163_51]这样黑不利！[/DhtmlXQ_comment163_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment164_41]！？[/DhtmlXQ_comment164_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment164_42]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment164_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment165_53]双方不变，纷和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment165_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment165_66]心谱1本佯和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment165_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment165_67]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment165_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment166_64]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment166_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment167_51]心谱2变黑变亦佯和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment167_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment168_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment168_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment169_27]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment169_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment169_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment169_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment170_33]先帅平中再想打法赶卒，黑进卒吃红相还是快了一步。[/DhtmlXQ_comment170_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment170_40]黑已胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment170_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment170_51]红无子可动。只能动该兵，其它三子没法动。平三也一样。[/DhtmlXQ_comment170_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment170_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment170_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment171_68]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment171_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment172_28]红可和。||||还不如第12回合直接炮8进3。此时红炮在黑方卒线的位置要好于在红方兵线的位置。相当于在相似局面中让红方多走了一步。||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/5p3/3K3c1 w - - 6 13]相似局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment172_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment172_42]||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/5C3/5P3/6B2/9/3p5/6p2/5Kc2 w - - 20 20]相似局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment172_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment172_43]可炮四平三，见相似局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment172_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment172_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment172_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment173_53]不让黑卒占心，黑要杀只能运炮到红方左侧，这样红胜机会反而大一点。[/DhtmlXQ_comment173_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment173_62]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment173_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment174_30]黑若再退炮白走了。不走这步，只能平卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment174_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment174_43]走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment174_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment174_51]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment174_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment174_89]即可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment174_89]
[DhtmlXQ_comment175_29]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment175_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment175_40][FEN=9/4k4/b4P3/5C3/5P3/6B2/9/3p5/6p2/5Kc2 w - - 22 21]相似局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment175_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment175_41]可相三退一复杂一点，红方有优势。[/DhtmlXQ_comment175_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment175_44]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment175_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment176_35]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment176_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment177_31]可进后兵再平四打卒。帅居中不急。[/DhtmlXQ_comment177_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment177_33]这步是真正的败着。||||再平兵打卒，与这步先进后兵再平四打卒步数一样。但红炮在卒线再飞相至三路多了一个炮平三打黑7路卒的棋。（平前兵打卒以后是前兵平五挡将才能飞相，被黑象一飞只能又平移，红没机会飞相，走后兵可后兵平五再飞相用相当炮架守三路线）||||[FEN=4k4/5C3/b5P2/9/9/6P2/2p6/4B4/5p3/4K2c1 b - - 13 17]相同局面，黑可胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment177_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment178_38]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment178_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment179_34]先复制过来。[/DhtmlXQ_comment179_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment179_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment179_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment184_34]上步走炮四进二时。黑方应以炮8退9取胜。||||现黑方应以同样的招法看一下区别。[/DhtmlXQ_comment184_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment184_35]上步炮四进二时，这步平四刚好打黑卒，黑只能卒6平7。[/DhtmlXQ_comment184_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment184_39]与17回合炮四进二时的区别。||||下步黑应以卒3进1时碰到红一将一杀了，待拆解。||这样的话第16回合红只能变招了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment184_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment184_49]红好象是一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment184_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment185_40]除此其它也没好招。改走其它，可能只是走子顺序不同而已。[/DhtmlXQ_comment185_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment185_46]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment185_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment186_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment186_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment187_40]和？下未折解略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment187_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment188_44]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment188_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment189_24][FEN=2bk5/4P4/5P3/9/9/9/9/9/3c5/4K4 b - - 0 29]心谱第3变黑又变和。[/FEN]||||下略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment189_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment190_19]黑胜。下略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment190_19]
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