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标题: 断雨截风···邢春波拟局 [打印本页]

作者: 邢春波 时间: 2019-9-11 19:28
标题: 断雨截风···邢春波拟局
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2019-9-12 10:19
局面看似松散，实则紧凑异常，佳局。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2019-9-22 07:33
先看沒有低卒的勝法是否這樣?

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2019-9-22 07:45
有低卒走閑.樓上的走法可能就難勝??

所以可能有更高明的走法 ?

作者: yjr123 时间: 2019-9-22 14:15

聨吟客发表于 2019-9-22 07:33
先看沒有低卒的勝法是否這樣?

作者: 杨启忠 时间: 2019-9-23 21:37
暂弄个变化，大家再完善补充

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2019-9-23 22:29
楊兄好
看這樣是否頑強

作者: 湖艓 时间: 2019-9-24 00:02

聨吟客发表于 2019-9-23 22:29
楊兄好
看這樣是否頑強

这样变化必胜啦！

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2019-9-24 00:44

湖艓发表于 2019-9-24 00:02
这样变化必胜啦！

哦

有卒走閒能勝嗎

作者: 湖艓 时间: 2019-9-24 00:51

聨吟客发表于 2019-9-24 00:44
哦

有卒走閒能勝嗎

马兵借帅力杀双士，不需要等着吧，卒能走闲没用，即使换高卒遮将，红亦可胜。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2019-9-24 01:15
位置不同有無差別呢

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2019-9-24 01:17
黑車換炮的時機有很多
有無差別呢
呵呵

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2019-9-24 01:19

湖艓发表于 2019-9-24 00:51
马兵借帅力杀双士，不需要等着吧，卒能走闲没用，即使换高卒遮将，红亦可胜。

問題是殺得了雙士嗎

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2019-9-24 01:28
黑最後應可走成類似這樣局面
紅怎麼攻才能勝呢
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2019-9-24 01:52
5樓也很頭疼
第一步這樣嗎
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作者: 湖艓 时间: 2019-9-24 07:01

聨吟客发表于 2019-9-24 01:28
黑最後應可走成類似這樣局面
紅怎麼攻才能勝呢

14楼稍顽强，但前面可以不让黑打开双士作调整。

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作者: yjr123 时间: 2019-9-24 07:26

聨吟客发表于 2019-9-24 01:28
黑最後應可走成類似這樣局面
紅怎麼攻才能勝呢

忘记有云库了？

http://www.chessdb.cn/query/?3a1 ... 6/9/5K3/1p7/3A5%20w

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2019-9-24 09:18
喔!!!!!!!!!
紅相還有妙用 ,學習了 ,感謝各位

作者: 邢春波 时间: 2019-9-24 20:17

杨启忠发表于 2019-9-23 21:37
暂弄个变化，大家再完善补充

杨老师，此变红方缓胜

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作者: yjr123 时间: 2019-9-24 21:06
逼黑车换炮就胜定了吧

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作者: 杨启忠 时间: 2019-9-25 07:37
本帖最后由杨启忠于 2019-9-25 07:39 编辑

邢春波发表于 2019-9-24 20:17
杨老师，此变红方缓胜

24回还是应炮五进二，黑车若吃炮，红可上相关卒

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2019-9-25 09:58
5樓這樣走
向云庫學習

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作者: 邢春波 时间: 2019-9-27 20:34

杨启忠发表于 2019-9-25 07:37
24回还是应炮五进二，黑车若吃炮，红可上相关卒

一样，黑可先平卒再啃炮

作者: 邢春波 时间: 2019-9-28 21:05
本帖最后由邢春波于 2019-9-28 21:11 编辑

提高一下

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作者: 邢春波 时间: 2019-9-28 21:12
这局不参考残局库很难解开

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作者: yjr123 时间: 2019-9-29 11:43

邢春波发表于 2019-9-28 21:12
这局不参考残局库很难解开

不是一样的套路？逼黑车换炮，马兵胜低卒双士。

作者: 杨启忠 时间: 2019-9-29 15:33

邢春波发表于 2019-9-27 20:34
一样，黑可先平卒再啃炮

有的变化：

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作者: 邢春波 时间: 2019-9-29 20:24
本帖最后由邢春波于 2019-9-29 20:26 编辑

yjr123 发表于 2019-9-29 11:43
不是一样的套路？逼黑车换炮，马兵胜低卒双士。

余老师，我是说这个局面，如果不参考残局库，只凭人脑很难解开，且棋书上我也没见有这种局面，但可参考马兵攻杀技巧 54页49局

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作者: 邢春波 时间: 2019-9-29 20:30

杨启忠发表于 2019-9-29 15:33
有的变化：

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作者: 杨启忠 时间: 2019-9-29 21:41

邢春波发表于 2019-9-29 20:30

嗯，看来之前19回应仕五进六：

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作者: 杨启忠 时间: 2019-9-30 07:30

杨启忠发表于 2019-9-29 21:41
嗯，看来之前19回应仕五进六：

呵呵，楼上走漏

作者: 杨启忠 时间: 2019-9-30 07:52
23回红兵推进过急，改走退马如何？

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作者: yjr123 时间: 2019-9-30 12:41

杨启忠发表于 2019-9-30 07:52
23回红兵推进过急，改走退马如何？

帅兵分占四六路，马兵有士象应该必胜双士低卒，所以没有必要弄那么复杂，18回合就可以进兵，直截了当。

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