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标题: 江湖棋局搜密071-1 解杀还杀,妙到毫巅(黑方一路新变化) [打印本页]

作者: chouzhouyu    时间: 2019-10-4 01:25
标题: 江湖棋局搜密071-1 解杀还杀,妙到毫巅(黑方一路新变化)
本帖最后由 chouzhouyu 于 2019-10-4 14:21 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0][FEN=3kn1b2/5P3/9/9/9/7C1/9/4pp3/4K4/3C5 w - - 3 7]原谱注解红胜着法诠为和棋。[/FEN]||||[FEN=3k2b2/4P4/3n5/4R4/9/7CC/4p4/6p2/3r1p3/4K4 w - - 2 2]补充和法。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1]弃前车,正确.[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4]补充。||||弃卒后飞象与直接飞象还是有区别。主要是红车吃卒后退到自己兵线了,当红炮将军时,黑方可以不退车而走进马。||||暂列为正变,经拆解,红方走和好象还较难。||||弈聪于2019年10月份对该路又进行了打谱,发现红方求和好象很难,感觉是黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]和平走法。当初拆解时没有走这路变化。||||这路变化走下去黑没办法取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]这步是红先炮退四特有的变化。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10]还是这样复杂一点了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_11]这个红兵弃掉好还是留住好呢。直接弃掉可能简洁一点。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_19]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_18]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_30]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_11]还原了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_10]死兑车,黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_10]还原。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_10]还是马6退4还原回去。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_17]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_8]!||||黑方不进卒,保留复杂变化,以下有机会兑车的棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_36]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_70]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_16]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_12]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_24]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_42]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_19]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_16]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_34]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_7]此时红方按黑方不弃卒时的着法应招,红可进马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_8]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_12]![/DhtmlXQ_comment24_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_94]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_94]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_32]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_33]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_16]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_8]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_4]唯一解危的正着.||||弈聪注:有多种和法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_16]必走之着.[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_19]亦可不去象,车守中路,速和.[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_30]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_25]得象后,再退车,红胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_21]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_10]黑兑车胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_4]各诠注本和网上都认为红胜。主要败着应该在第7回合进马后老将让红兵定位了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_14]诠正。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_33]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_14]这步感觉是败着,让红兵定心了。直接进将也比这好,黑马可以让红兵吃掉。黑有卒遮帅即可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_25]红胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_25]红胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_21]红胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_21]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_8]等着。红炮打马后才可换车。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_23]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_13]红胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_15]红胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_13]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_13]红胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_6]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_6]
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作者: chouzhouyu    时间: 2019-10-4 01:26
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作者: yjr123    时间: 2019-10-4 13:44
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0][FEN\u003D3kn1b2/5P3/9/9/9/7C1/9/4pp3/4K4/3C5 w - - 3 7]原谱注解红胜着法诠为和棋。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D3k2b2/4P4/3n5/4R4/9/7CC/4p4/6p2/3r1p3/4K4 w - - 2 2]补充和法。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4]补充。||||弃卒后飞象与直接飞象还是有区别。主要是红车吃卒后退到自己兵线了,当红炮将军时,黑方可以不退车而走进马。||||暂列为正变,经拆解,红方走和好象还较难。||||弈聪于2019年10月份对该路又进行了打谱,发现红方求和好象很难,感觉是黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_8]!||||黑方不进卒,保留复杂变化,以下有机会兑车的棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_70]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_12]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_42]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_19]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_16]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_34]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_7]此时红方按黑方不弃卒时的着法应招,红可进马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_8]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_12]![/DhtmlXQ_comment13_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_94]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_94]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_32]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_33]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_16]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_8]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_4]唯一解危的正着.||||弈聪注:有多种和法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_16]必走之着.[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_19]亦可不去象,车守中路,速和.[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_30]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_25]得象后,再退车,红胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_21]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_10]黑兑车胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_4]各诠注本和网上都认为红胜。主要败着应该在第7回合进马后老将让红兵定位了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_14]诠正。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_33]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_14]这步感觉是败着,让红兵定心了。直接进将也比这好,黑马可以让红兵吃掉。黑有卒遮帅即可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_25]红胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_25]红胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_21]红胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_21]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_8]等着。红炮打马后才可换车。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_23]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_23]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]弈聪[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
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作者: chouzhouyu    时间: 2019-10-4 14:20
刚才在微信群中拆到这路变化了。是可和。昨天我未走这路变化。
作者: chouzhouyu    时间: 2019-10-4 14:22
一楼已重新编辑。就当欣赏局吧。
作者: yjr123    时间: 2019-10-4 17:23
chouzhouyu 发表于 2019-10-4 14:22
一楼已重新编辑。就当欣赏局吧。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0][FEN\u003D3kn1b2/5P3/9/9/9/7C1/9/4pp3/4K4/3C5 w - - 3 7]原谱注解红胜着法诠为和棋。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D3k2b2/4P4/3n5/4R4/9/7CC/4p4/6p2/3r1p3/4K4 w - - 2 2]补充和法。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1]弃前车,正确.[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4]补充。||||弃卒后飞象与直接飞象还是有区别。主要是红车吃卒后退到自己兵线了,当红炮将军时,黑方可以不退车而走进马。||||暂列为正变,经拆解,红方走和好象还较难。||||弈聪于2019年10月份对该路又进行了打谱,发现红方求和好象很难,感觉是黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]和平走法。当初拆解时没有走这路变化。||||这路变化走下去黑没办法取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]这步是红先炮退四特有的变化。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10]还是这样复杂一点了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_43]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_46]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11]这个红兵弃掉好还是留住好呢。直接弃掉可能简洁一点。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_19]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_18]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_30]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_11]还原了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_10]死兑车,黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_10]还原。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_10]还是马6退4还原回去。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_17]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_8]!||||黑方不进卒,保留复杂变化,以下有机会兑车的棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_36]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_70]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_16]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_12]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_24]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_42]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_19]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_16]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_34]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_7]此时红方按黑方不弃卒时的着法应招,红可进马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_8]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_12]![/DhtmlXQ_comment24_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_94]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_94]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_32]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_33]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_16]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_8]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_4]唯一解危的正着.||||弈聪注:有多种和法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_16]必走之着.[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_19]亦可不去象,车守中路,速和.[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_30]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_25]得象后,再退车,红胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_21]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_10]黑兑车胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_4]各诠注本和网上都认为红胜。主要败着应该在第7回合进马后老将让红兵定位了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_14]诠正。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_33]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_14]这步感觉是败着,让红兵定心了。直接进将也比这好,黑马可以让红兵吃掉。黑有卒遮帅即可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_25]红胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_25]红胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_21]红胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_21]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_8]等着。红炮打马后才可换车。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_23]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_13]红胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_15]红胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_13]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_13]红胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_6]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_6]
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作者: chouzhouyu    时间: 2019-10-4 20:43
我以为拆的也差不多了,没想到还有新变化。
作者: chouzhouyu    时间: 2019-10-4 20:43
谢谢余老师。
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2021-3-5 05:45
朱鹤洲《江湖排局集成》之“险过昭关”解得非常简洁。
作者: yjr123    时间: 2021-3-5 08:39
老鸽子 发表于 2021-3-5 05:45
朱鹤洲《江湖排局集成》之“险过昭关”解得非常简洁。

解得简洁,就不全面,且其中错误也不少,甚至结论错误。




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