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标题: [古今象棋殘局]之策馬歸征局 [打印本页]

作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-7-20 03:42
标题: [古今象棋殘局]之策馬歸征局
鍾若文先生編著的該譜有這麼一局
經我深入研究應該是黑可勝
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作者: 石川铃华老湿    时间: 2021-7-20 03:43
这么晚不睡觉,你想吓死人呐
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-7-20 04:17
石川铃华老湿 发表于 2021-7-20 03:43
这么晚不睡觉,你想吓死人呐

呵呵呵呵呵呵

大濕不也是

有很多同型局可和

此圖大陸朋友可能比較少見或研究討論
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-7-20 04:18
我有小睡一個多小時啦

等一下再補眠
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-7-20 12:54
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-7-20 12:56
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-7-20 21:07
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-7-20 21:40
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_4]37383138483839382324[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_4][DhtmlXQ_comment34]殺[/DhtmlXQ_comment34][DhtmlXQ_comment35]||殺[/DhtmlXQ_comment35][DhtmlXQ_comment36]殺[/DhtmlXQ_comment36][DhtmlXQ_comment37]殺[/DhtmlXQ_comment37][DhtmlXQ_comment38]殺[/DhtmlXQ_comment38][DhtmlXQ_comment39]||殺[/DhtmlXQ_comment39][DhtmlXQ_comment41]殺||雙方互相長殺||和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-7-21 09:59
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-7-21 12:41
似可滿意
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-7-21 17:00
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-7-23 15:36
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2021-7-23 15:38 编辑

這樣解決了8樓12回合紅有兩法可和的問題

我個人自吹自擂認為天衣無縫精品滿意

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作者: 剑影¤独步    时间: 2021-7-23 16:07
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[DhtmlXQ_comment6_48]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_48]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_42]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_57]||和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_57]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment11_67]||和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_73]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_73]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_12_54_10]3033564852424856324156443330446342523938[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_54_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_63]||和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_35]也可以這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_35]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-7-23 16:13
感謝劍影先生

2路卒失敗
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-7-23 16:17
仍需3路卒
這樣可否
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作者: 剑影¤独步    时间: 2021-7-23 16:54
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[DhtmlXQ_event]网上收集[/DhtmlXQ_event]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_1]5677897954445141444341404333404133235750775650402625796923136959564840482524[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_1][DhtmlXQ_comment1_23]也可以[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_33_2]23135080[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_33_2][DhtmlXQ_comment2_34]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_34][DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_41][DhtmlXQ_comment49]破士必和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-7-23 21:14
12樓
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[DhtmlXQ_move_5_37_3]4858354552515040213145555857555657582737[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_37_3][DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]||黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]
[DhtmlXQ_move_2_33_4]48582425011125351121354521314555524227374232374732425556425256575859474831415758[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_33_4][DhtmlXQ_move_2_33_5]01112425112125352131354548584555524227374232374732425556314156575859474842525758[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_33_5][DhtmlXQ_comment2_56]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_46]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_52]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_52][DhtmlXQ_move_4_37_6]5251504011213545213145555857555657582737[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_37_6][DhtmlXQ_comment2_32]以下兵卒對攻|| 無論紅如何走都比黑慢了[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_32][DhtmlXQ_comment41]雙方互相長殺 ||和得巧妙[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_7]53322442404230415453413253525150423267603231273752515040514140503132483839494748[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_7][DhtmlXQ_comment7_34]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_34]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_35_8]4241483839494748[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_35_8][DhtmlXQ_comment8_38]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_38]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_33_10]5251483839494748495948495958384858573747[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_33_10][DhtmlXQ_comment10_42]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_42]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_9]48383938272838392829394947484048293949395848533251413211[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_9]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_22_11]58484948[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_22_11][DhtmlXQ_comment11_23]||紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_23]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-7-23 22:25
18樓如無問題
我非常滿意
不過局名須改了
走法紅馬未曾歸征
呵呵呵
等我想好再改上去
作者: 剑影¤独步    时间: 2021-7-23 23:31
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[DhtmlXQ_event]网上收集[/DhtmlXQ_event]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_52]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_52]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]||黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_56]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_46]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_52]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_52]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_37_6]5251504011213545213145555857555657582737[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_37_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_32]以下兵卒對攻|| 無論紅如何走都比黑慢了[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_41]雙方互相長殺 ||和得巧妙[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_41]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_7]53322442404230415453413253525150423267603231273752515040514140503132483839494748[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_34]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_34]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_35_8]4241483839494748[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_35_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_38]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_38]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_33_10]5251483839494748495948495958384858573747[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_33_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_42]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_42]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_9]48383938272838392829394947484048293949395848533251413211[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_9]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_22_11]58484948[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_22_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_23]||紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_26_12]24423211[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_26_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_27]紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_13]32315848524240504252504052424050425250405242[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_13][DhtmlXQ_comment40]解杀||带还杀||解杀为大,按解杀算[/DhtmlXQ_comment40][DhtmlXQ_comment39]解杀||带还杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment39][DhtmlXQ_comment41]解杀||||闲着[/DhtmlXQ_comment41][DhtmlXQ_comment38]带连杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment38][DhtmlXQ_comment42]带连杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment42][DhtmlXQ_comment43]解杀||||带还杀||||黑一解杀,一长杀||红一闲,一长杀||红算解杀,不犯规||黑虽常杀,但也带有将6平5的解杀之着,而且单动将是没那么多犯规的规则定义,所以是:||和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment43]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-7-24 10:20
喔嗯

亞規沒問題
大陸規則看怎麼解釋
判和判勝棋攤上都算紅破解就是了


作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-7-24 20:49

發現問題
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_52]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_52]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_37_3]4858354552515040213145555857555657582737[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_37_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]||黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_56]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_46]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_52]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_52]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_32]以下兵卒對攻|| 無論紅如何走都比黑慢了[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_41]雙方互相長殺 ||和得巧妙[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_41]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_13_35_8]4241483839494748[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_35_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_38]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_38]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_33_10]5251483839494748495948495958384858573747[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_33_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_42]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_42]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_9_22_11]58484948[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_22_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_23]||紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_26_12]24423211[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_26_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_27]紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_14]5242584832332324011124251121405042525040524240504252[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_14][DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_13]32315848524240504252504052424050425250405242[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_40]解杀||带还杀||解杀为大,按解杀算[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_39]解杀||带还杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_41]解杀||||闲着[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_38]带连杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_42]带连杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_43]解杀||||带还杀||||黑一解杀,一长杀||红一闲,一长杀||红算解杀,不犯规||黑虽常杀,但也带有将6平5的解杀之着,而且单动将是没那么多犯规的规则定义,所以是:||和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_43]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_15]47484248584849482324011124251121253552513545514145462131[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_15][DhtmlXQ_comment31]||應這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_16]4050424158485251[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_16][DhtmlXQ_comment55]||紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment55]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-7-24 21:16

還好  呵呵
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_32]以下兵卒對攻|| 無論紅如何走都比黑慢了[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_32]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment12_27]紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment14_40]解杀||带还杀||解杀为大,按解杀算[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_39]解杀||带还杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_41]解杀||||闲着[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_38]带连杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_42]带连杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_43]解杀||||带还杀||||黑一解杀,一长杀||红一闲,一长杀||红算解杀,不犯规||黑虽常杀,但也带有将6平5的解杀之着,而且单动将是没那么多犯规的规则定义,所以是:||和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_43]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_55]||紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_55]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-7-28 10:44
整理帖
雖然有一點小插曲
基本上仍算滿意
最後規則解釋判和局或紅勝都無妨
因為棋攤上都算紅方破解了

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[DhtmlXQ_comment12_27]紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment40]解杀||带还杀||解杀为大,按解杀算[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]解杀||带还杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]解杀||||闲着[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38]带连杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42]带连杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43]解杀||||带还杀||||黑一解杀,一长杀||红一闲,一长杀||红算解杀,不犯规||黑虽常杀,但也带有将6平5的解杀之着,而且单动将是没那么多犯规的规则定义,所以是:||和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment43]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-7-28 10:57
局名忘了改

呵呵呵以後再說
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-7-29 08:53
改了局名較妥
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[DhtmlXQ_comment39]解杀||带还杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]解杀||||闲着[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38]带连杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment38]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-10-27 01:27
感謝老鴿子  讓我有底氣頂上來
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2022-10-27 14:44
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2022-10-27 15:32 编辑

此谱现已帖出来的棋局在丁章照、杨明忠等的《中国象棋流行排局选》(1993年)中也多有收录,但刊行的年代却晚了13年。其中的棋局除古局外,其它现代棋谱少有收录!本局丁、杨谱的局名为”策马归里“,《台湾民间排局辑刊》名为”带马归槽“。

并不是本人偏爱此谱,而是它本身就得到了广泛的认可,此书目前的网络拍价达到380元!若按这样的价格购买棋谱,我就是花费几万元也达不到自己想要的数量,代价太大,所以本人就没购买此书。
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2022-10-27 15:03
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2022-10-27 15:44 编辑

有关”策马归征“的改局很少,目前已正式刊载的仅见四局。这里的改局方案,个人觉得应该可行,特别是加底兵的那局如果成立的话!陈兄可挑出两局优者进行重点研究一下。改局不在数量,而在精准!

本局原本就是同类局中改动最大者,再改时是否可以减子为优先选项呢?


作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2022-10-27 15:25
这里标出的书名不够完整,应把它补充完整,即为:《古今象棋残局新编》,以便与其它近名谱相区别!
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-10-27 17:10
底兵是劍影獨步改的  我未深研
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-10-27 17:22
減子就要靠大濕了  他自號減子狂魔

這兩本書網絡價380人民幣喔  呵呵呵呵

嚇到!! 錯誤很多  而且有新意的就那麼幾局
直接選自古譜的也都未詮正
還有他說選自百變象棋譜的局都不是真正出自該譜
只有一局秋水長天有在該譜中 秋水共長天

真是沒想到現在如此寶島紙貴啊  呵呵呵呵呵呵
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-10-27 17:28
我買的是宏業書局出版的

第一冊書名  古今象棋殘局

第二冊書名  古今象棋殘局新編

我不知道台灣新生報出版的是如何的
作者: xqahz010    时间: 2022-10-27 17:32
聨吟客 发表于 2022-10-27 17:10
底兵是劍影獨步改的  我未深研

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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2022-10-27 18:55
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2022-10-27 21:45 编辑
聨吟客 发表于 2022-10-27 17:22
減子就要靠大濕了  他自號減子狂魔

這兩本書網絡價380人民幣喔  呵呵呵呵

有新意之局若能达到20局以上就非常不错了,因其本身只有100多局!此谱内地版本分别是1980、1982年由新生报社出版部刊行的第一、二集,其“雪拥蓝关”局曾在很长一段时间为内地称道。

至于古局,那时一些古谱还未得到确认和正式刊行!比如《象棋谱大全》曾把《韬略元机》当成《百局象棋谱》刊印。又如《百变象棋谱》,建国后内地最早的诠注本应是1985年杨明忠、丁章照诠注本,更不用说你们台湾了!而且,它的成书年代至今仍无定论!1980年代的钟若文不懂《百变象棋谱》很正常。

建国前后,林幼如所作各种古谱的“…拾遗”、“…存真”、“…残存”等至少十余种,不仅对其出处存疑,且多未正式出版,至今流行不广!


作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2022-10-27 19:14
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2022-10-27 21:47 编辑
聨吟客 发表于 2022-10-27 17:28
我買的是宏業書局出版的

第一冊書名  古今象棋殘局

宏业书局再版的是“漏嘢”货,连个书名都没印对,还能弄出什么好书?

钟先生不知《百变象棋谱》,还不能算什么错,常言道:“不知者无罪”。关键是棋局整体尚可,错误率应在50%以下,且无低级错误!


作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-10-27 19:29
18位卒的雪擁藍關 嗎

已被我詳解  哇哈哈哈哈

在不貪為寶那個主題中
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-10-27 22:08
xqahz010 发表于 2022-10-27 17:32

嗯 劍影先生改局紅勝
作者: 石川铃华老湿    时间: 2022-10-28 00:55
本帖最后由 石川铃华老湿 于 2022-10-28 01:02 编辑
老鸽子 发表于 2022-10-27 19:14
宏业书局再版的是“漏嘢”货,连个书名都没印对,还能弄出什么好书?

钟先生不知《百变象棋谱》,还不 ...

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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-10-28 09:04
此局也值得介紹 我忘了以前有無貼出
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-10-28 09:14
樓上3回紅 獻車  乃局眼也  呵呵呵  
如不變和局

亞規和局  (陸規應是長殺對長殺 也和局)  故黑求變
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2022-10-28 09:14
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2022-10-28 10:26 编辑
聨吟客 发表于 2022-10-28 08:16

大湿兄的改法又觉得布子改动有点大,但着法简明!谢谢了!

陈兄的加九路低兵局当然可以,只是当初觉得末段红势太强,黑方可能很难求和,故而倾向于加底兵那局!若此局真能成和,在这些的改局中还是此局为佳!
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-10-28 09:21
添子癲瘋的獨門改法

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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-10-28 09:34
老鸽子 发表于 2022-10-28 09:14
大湿兄的改法又觉得改动有点大,但着法简明!谢谢了!

陈兄的加九路低兵局当然可以,只是当初觉得末段 ...

謝謝  我那局 劍影獨步先生提出的走法最後牽涉規則解釋

亞規和局  陸規可能判紅勝

不過因為有走到最後了 並非中途利用規則取勝
所以我認為無妨 可以滿意
且棋攤上判和或勝也都算紅方破解了
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2022-10-28 10:05
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2022-10-28 10:14 编辑
聨吟客 发表于 2022-10-28 09:21
添子癲瘋的獨門改法

“弩马上用”类局仅古谱就有25局,且不包括重局。其中《竹谱》之“顺送襄江”黑方加了中炮,红方无仕,差别较大。它与《渊谱》”赤壁鏖兵“、《蕉谱》”百川归海“同型。

这类局一直为古今研究的课题,以《百变》“六将下江南”为起点,至今已有近80局!其棋局数量和受关注度不输给”乘风破浪“、”带子入朝“、“大鹏展翅”、“四郎探母”、”蚯蚓降龙“、”炮打两狼关“等类局。或因布子多,显得较复杂,也没什么陷阱,故在街头棋摊中少见,略逊色于”七星聚会“、“野马操田”、“千里独行”、“跨海征东”、“火烧连营”、“大九连环”等类局。

本局最特别之处在于红马位置和双边卒,又是一个新型,看起来很舒服,值得去研究!
作者: 石川铃华老湿    时间: 2022-10-28 10:41
老鸽子 发表于 2022-10-28 10:05
“弩马上用”类局仅古谱就有25局,且不包括重局。其中《竹谱》之“顺送襄江”黑方加了中炮,红方无仕,差 ...

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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-10-28 10:55
石川铃华老湿 发表于 2022-10-28 10:41

也是  這個底 兵  也算不上有誘惑力
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2022-10-28 16:18
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2022-10-28 18:18 编辑
石川铃华老湿 发表于 2022-10-28 10:41

哪来红底兵?应是红低兵吧。双宫心兵中,很少见其中有冗兵!

不好意思,是我误解了,这是去了底兵后之图。但这类棋局多半都有底兵。


作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2022-10-30 00:43
44樓詳解

高手們可能覺得簡單  但我自己覺得很滿意很有趣  老王賣瓜自賣自誇
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