雷鳴電閃

聨吟客 · 发表于 2022-4-3 03:09:09

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老鸽子 · 发表于 2022-7-20 18:06:20

本帖最后由老鸽子于 2022-7-21 01:10 编辑

聨吟客发表于 2022-6-11 11:49
原局出處

黃大昌最新象棋排局上海書店出版社 1999年7月第一版第一次印刷定價 19.00

《黄大昌最新象棋排局》实际上十天前就看完了，只是没时间顾及说说。最大的感受是陈兄把此谱唯一的一则古谱改编局给挖了出来！

该谱号称黄大昌一生中分量最重之谱，也确实比此前诸谱好多了，但总体而言，与朱鹤洲、裘望禹、周孟芳、李中健、张建麟、李浭、陶诒谟等的创作排局还是差了一大截；多子局则不比林幼如。棋局的深奥度远不如上述前几位大师。尤其是布局陷阱浅显，随之而来的便是“做作”之嫌，似与刘汉夫的局同类。

该谱共300局，若论佳作，最多不过20局。而《七子百局谱》、《少子百局谱》、《象棋排局精选》（周孟芳）、《弈海烟波》、《象棋排局精品》等谱几乎局局经典！

聨吟客 · 发表于 2022-6-17 17:31:13

★星海★ 发表于 2022-6-17 15:00
走到这里是红胜的，接下来兵六进一又错失胜机。

喔那黑只有7回合再炮退3

雙方不變應是長捉對長捉和局

這樣也改得不滿意

聨吟客 · 发表于 2022-6-17 17:15:07

杨启忠发表于 2022-6-17 13:48
10回后兵平六之变至12回红改走帅五平四，是否红胜

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★星海★ · 发表于 2022-6-17 15:00:41

杨启忠发表于 2022-6-17 13:48
10回后兵平六之变至12回红改走帅五平四，是否红胜

走到这里是红胜的，接下来兵六进一又错失胜机。

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杨启忠 · 发表于 2022-6-17 13:48:41

聨吟客发表于 2022-4-9 11:26
嗯這樣可否

10回后兵平六之变至12回红改走帅五平四，是否红胜

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2022-6-11 16:25:21

老鸽子发表于 2022-6-11 14:06
刚搜了一下此书，看了一目录，局名都很大气，可能大部分都是新作，已订购了。

在當時是新作但距今已二十多年了

老鸽子 · 发表于 2022-6-11 14:06:24

刚搜了一下此书，看了一目录，局名都很大气，可能大部分都是新作，已订购了。

聨吟客 · 发表于 2022-6-11 11:49:05

原局出處

黃大昌最新象棋排局上海書店出版社 1999年7月第一版第一次印刷定價 19.00

全書共300局第一部分連照勝局200局第二部分七子和局100局

雷鳴電閃第二部份七子和局第16局

聨吟客 · 发表于 2022-4-9 11:34:52

兩個改局都沒有達到黑優紅守和的江湖局要求

只是初步解決了5回合紅有兩種解法的問題

對紅方而言仍太容易一些

呵呵呵

聨吟客 · 发表于 2022-4-9 11:26:49

嗯這樣可否

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[DhtmlXQ_comment35]不變和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment35][DhtmlXQ_move_14_24_12]293949594656484339495949183749483745433345334140[/DhtmlXQ_move_14_24_12]
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yjr123 · 发表于 2022-4-9 08:00:49

聨吟客发表于 2022-4-8 17:01
成立否

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[DhtmlXQ_move_4_25_5]494845534131304032425361[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_25_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_27]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_27]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]互走閒和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_35]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_35]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_29]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_29]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_4]2645634345334948[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_4]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_10_30_9]33254434253334358171[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_30_9]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2022-4-8 17:29:39

成立否

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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1]363740483738394918485453484653524645524245414241[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_1][DhtmlXQ_comment2_16]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_16]
[DhtmlXQ_move_3_15_2]39491848[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_15_2][DhtmlXQ_comment3_20]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_20]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_3]54443637443458593433181633321636[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_3][DhtmlXQ_comment19]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_4]404836374818374754444748[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_4][DhtmlXQ_comment4_20]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_20]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_17_5]48453738453538484939585941403031[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_17_5][DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_6]18104010363741313031105058684948[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_6][DhtmlXQ_comment6_21]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_21]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_16_7]36465444464744345848495947571018[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_16_7][DhtmlXQ_comment7_23]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_8]606848383949382854441826444328384333787133323646686326146343464749594757594957474959475759495747[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_8][DhtmlXQ_comment10_26]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_15_9]686036465352787152424647[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_15_9][DhtmlXQ_comment9_20]||黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_20]
[DhtmlXQ_move_8_13_10]54532838681878185343181743331737332336462333374741513031[/DhtmlXQ_move_8_13_10][DhtmlXQ_comment8_32]||紅長殺[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_32]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2022-4-8 17:01:06

成立否

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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_1]2818781860402042[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_26]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_30]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_30][DhtmlXQ_move_4_25_5]494845534131304032425361[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_25_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_27]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_27][DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]||互走閒和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]互走閒和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_26_2]4636434445574948283848475745443445334140[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_26_2][DhtmlXQ_move_4_26_7]465643444557494828384858[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_26_7][DhtmlXQ_comment2_35]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_35][DhtmlXQ_comment7_31]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_29]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_29][DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_3]4948464748582838[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_4]2645634345334948[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_6]7181637381717363[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_8]46364858[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_27]||參考主變[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_9]33254434253334358171[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_9][DhtmlXQ_comment34]||互走閒和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2022-4-5 22:50:22

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[DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2022-4-5 22:48:16

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[DhtmlXQ_type]中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_red]象棋巫师测试团队[/DhtmlXQ_red]
[DhtmlXQ_redname]象棋巫师测试团队[/DhtmlXQ_redname]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2022-4-5 22:45:28

由於第5回合紅有兩種走法可解

所以又引起我改局的衝動
哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈

以下有兩個方案

聨吟客 · 发表于 2022-4-5 22:27:57

整理一下

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_12_2]3637404837383949184853524846524246414241[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_12_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_18]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_18]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_14_3]18484333364640464841[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_14_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_22]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_22]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_6_13_5]5343363743331838332358592322386822326869[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_13_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_13]||詮正[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_14]||詮正[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_6]28187818604048583949184840503646505848414959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_6]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]紅不容易勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_7_23_8]383418374948372542322533[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_23_8][DhtmlXQ_comment7_43]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_43]
[DhtmlXQ_move_7_28_9]37563141405038585677425277585251[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_28_9]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_30_10]4030423246364140[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_30_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_7_28_11]37454241405031307170304070403830[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_28_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_7_28_12]40503141[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_28_12][DhtmlXQ_comment15]可能判和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment15][DhtmlXQ_comment9]余先生提出新走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment9][DhtmlXQ_comment14_21]紅應能勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_21]
[DhtmlXQ_move_14_16_13]36465343464743335848495947571018[/DhtmlXQ_move_14_16_13][DhtmlXQ_comment13_23]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_14_14]18104010363741313031105058684948[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_14_14][DhtmlXQ_comment6_19]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_19]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_15_15]40483637484637384636384849395859[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_15_15][DhtmlXQ_comment15_22]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_22]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2022-4-5 22:04:42

yjr123 发表于 2022-4-5 19:22
不会人机就完全自己动脑筋破解，不算复杂，别钻牛角尖就行，前2个回合后云库就会解了。

果真如此
哈哈哈哈哈

鑽牛角尖似佳實軟

哈哈哈哈哈哈哈

yjr123 · 发表于 2022-4-5 19:22:28

聨吟客发表于 2022-4-5 17:11
云庫沒有給出紅勝走法?

可能是我人機合一不太熟練

不会人机就完全自己动脑筋破解，不算复杂，别钻牛角尖就行，前2个回合后云库就会解了。

聨吟客 · 发表于 2022-4-5 17:11:30

yjr123 发表于 2022-4-4 21:12

云庫沒有給出紅勝走法?

可能是我人機合一不太熟練

石川铃华老湿 · 发表于 2022-4-5 04:48:51

老鸽子发表于 2022-4-4 21:20
个人认为，衡量一个棋局的好坏，不能以其结局的胜、负来判定，而应从其布局的雅观、子力的协调性，着法的 ...

特别的现在的一些拟修改的残局，把正解着法就是假像着法（解法没有出奇不意），那些残局，统为鸡肋！

大湿也有这样的残局

老鸽子 · 发表于 2022-4-4 21:20:27

本帖最后由老鸽子于 2022-4-4 22:02 编辑

xqahz010 发表于 2022-4-4 20:36
《江湖百局秘谱》“姜太公钓鱼”局黑胜

个人认为，衡量一个棋局的好坏，不能以其结局的胜、负来判定，而应从其布局的雅观、子力的协调性，着法的新颖和精彩度等方面来判断。初创之局，难免有问题。有些棋局今天被奉为经典，但百年后又可能会被人找出问题来。有些江湖残局历经无数代人的雕琢，至今仍有这样那样的问题！所以棋局有问题不紧要，可以改啊！关键在于它的布局和着法是否优秀，这是象棋排局的生命力所在！若一个棋局的棋型不雅，着法又不精彩，那就差不多等于被判了死刑。

yjr123 · 发表于 2022-4-4 21:12:11

聨吟客发表于 2022-4-4 19:41
卒5平4變化先列一種

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xqahz010 · 发表于 2022-4-4 20:36:13

老鸽子发表于 2022-4-4 19:37
十分少见的“武松打虎”类局，棋型与蒋权《江湖百局秘谱》“姜太公钓鱼”相似，但着法差别很大，也很精彩！

《江湖百局秘谱》“姜太公钓鱼”局黑胜

聨吟客 · 发表于 2022-4-4 19:41:36

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老鸽子 · 发表于 2022-4-4 19:37:03

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十分少见的“武松打虎”类局，棋型与蒋权《江湖百局秘谱》“姜太公钓鱼”相似，但着法差别很大，也很精彩！

我是bb1 · 发表于 2022-4-4 13:39:01

聨吟客发表于 2022-4-4 12:09
12樓第4句最後2字應改為抽車

我同意12樓的結論

嗯，确实，红进炮前车吃马会被抽车（不是被将死），进炮后可白得马，属于有本质改变的从捉到捉，仍可定为捉。
至于7回合的卒5平4，个人认为红胜。

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2022-4-4 12:09:17

12樓第4句最後2字應改為抽車

我同意12樓的結論

我也不是裁判專家憑邏輯推論若有失誤還望指正

另外
11樓所說7樓7回合卒5平4可抽車變化複雜
云庫好像認為可和
我人機合一不熟練不知余兄與各位同好研究如何呢

我是bb1 · 发表于 2022-4-4 00:43:28

yjr123 发表于 2022-4-3 08:56
红方退炮肯定属于捉（车捉马），进炮到底算不算捉？应该不算。那此局就是红胜。

红退炮前是以车换马，退炮后白得马，所以退炮算捉。红进炮前车吃马会被将死，所以不算捉，进炮后可以白得马，所以算捉（可参考2011棋规参考图33）。一进一退算两捉。

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