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标题: 当代“拔簧马”一绝 拔苗助长 任云拟局 [打印本页]
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2022-4-18 00:44
标题: 当代“拔簧马”一绝 拔苗助长 任云拟局
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2024-8-27 10:33 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]这样的拔簧马，若着法无漏洞，则可与古谱名局“庞统连环计“媲美，堪称当代一绝。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0][DhtmlXQ_comment51]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment51]
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作者: 石川铃华老湿    时间: 2022-4-18 01:23
本帖最后由 石川铃华老湿 于 2022-4-18 01:32 编辑

这种局前段时间你不是在说他们吗？

拟这种局华工一抓一大把！
这种局相对那帮人简直不要太简单
什么先定好图形再拟着法，什么连将断将回合数，指定老帅转圈赢啊，连续逼杀不带将啊，连续弃子最后一子拿棋啊等等玩法。
当你想拟局时，你会发现这帮人真是残局界的深山老龟！牛逼的不得了！！！
作者: 石川铃华老湿    时间: 2022-4-18 01:28
你信不信，这一局华工有一大帮人可以增加回合数！
作者: 石川铃华老湿    时间: 2022-4-18 01:35
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]着法：红先胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51]红一马胜黑16子全，切题。[/DhtmlXQ_comment51]
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作者: 石川铃华老湿    时间: 2022-4-18 01:39
怎么样？老鸽子，被震撼到了没有？
一子胜16子全，回合数还他妈的多！
作者: 石川铃华老湿    时间: 2022-4-18 01:46
石川铃华老湿 发表于 2022-4-18 01:35

当然，这一局还有一点小遗憾，那就是少了三个兵！车马炮兵全
舍身取义
红方还有三个兵没添加！
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2022-4-18 02:21
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2022-4-18 02:54 编辑
石川铃华老湿 发表于 2022-4-18 01:39
怎么样？老鸽子，被震撼到了没有？
一子胜16子全，回合数还他妈的多！

恰恰跟你想的相反，这种着法在棋书里才常见！你所列这种类似着法，在黄金环《南洋象棋谱残局篇》、《排局烟雨》以及《百花》等谱里都有多局，我不用一个小时，就能找出十局来！当然，这里并不是说白大师的局不好，棋局总有相似的。白大师的创作与解局水准是有目共睹、勿容置疑的。

你上面说的本局着法一抓就一大把，未免说得太严重了，棋书里根本就没见到这样的成套着法！且不说抓一大把，你能找出类似的一局来就算你对！
作者: 石川铃华老湿    时间: 2022-4-18 03:49
老鸽子 发表于 2022-4-18 02:21
恰恰跟你想的相反，这种着法在棋书里才常见！你所列这种类似着法，在黄金环《南洋象棋谱残局篇》、《排局 ...

你让我找着法:lo
l，你是不是忘记了？大湿连古谱名局局名都不知道，还着法
作者: 石川铃华老湿    时间: 2022-4-18 04:06
镇楼局这局的要点就是如何消灭4线(炮)位置的看守棋子，如果黑方多一个看守要点的棋子，红方就要多弄个子来送，大湿虽然不拟连续将红胜局，但还是看得出一点点门道的
作者: sdndsx    时间: 2022-4-18 06:28
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作者: sdndsx    时间: 2022-4-18 06:51
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作者: sdndsx    时间: 2022-4-18 07:30
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作者: sdndsx    时间: 2022-4-18 07:42
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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2022-4-18 11:54
sdndsx 发表于 2022-4-18 07:42

都不错，整了一下形！最关键的是此局的创作构思极佳，形成独特的一套着法！
作者: 高原红    时间: 2022-4-18 12:18
本帖最后由 高原红 于 2022-4-19 10:44 编辑

原来同任先生交流过此局，因时间久远，该局很精妙。改了一下供任先生参考。
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作者: 邢春波    时间: 2022-4-18 13:05
老鸽子 发表于 2022-4-18 02:21
恰恰跟你想的相反，这种着法在棋书里才常见！你所列这种类似着法，在黄金环《南洋象棋谱残局篇》、《排局 ...

这种套路局以前很少现在确实很多
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2022-4-18 13:13
邢春波 发表于 2022-4-18 13:05
这种套路局以前很少现在确实很多

在下孤陋寡闻，还请略举一例！但这个套路，应属任云大师首创！
作者: 湖艓    时间: 2022-4-18 15:43
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作者: 石川铃华老湿    时间: 2022-4-18 16:12
湖艓 发表于 2022-4-18 15:43
贴个小局给鸽先生助助兴

局面接近实用残局。简洁！赞👍
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2022-4-18 17:28
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2022-4-18 17:57 编辑
湖艓 发表于 2022-4-18 15:43
贴个小局给鸽先生助助兴

也确实不错，但着法与主题局差别较大，另有特色，不算同类。
作者: 邢春波    时间: 2022-4-23 09:10
老鸽子 发表于 2022-4-18 13:13
在下孤陋寡闻，还请略举一例！但这个套路，应属任云大师首创！

类似的套路秦臻老师陈财运老师王老师都有创作，有兴趣可以查阅一下他们以前的帖孑



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