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标题: ttbbs自制残局：飞渡狼川（理论和） [打印本页]

作者: sdndsx 时间: 2022-4-29 05:06
标题: ttbbs自制残局：飞渡狼川（理论和）
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作者: xqahz010 时间: 2022-4-29 07:54
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2022-4-29 08:38
怎么把黑胜局拆成红胜了

作者: xqahz010 时间: 2022-4-29 09:16
1. 兵五进一  车６平５    2. 炮三平六  车５平７
3. 帅五进一  前卒进１    4. 帅五退一  前卒进１
5. 帅五平四  车５平６    6. 炮二平四  炮５平７(红无攻杀手段)

，天天象棋也走了荤着炮５平2

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-4-29 09:22

xqahz010 发表于 2022-4-29 09:16
1. 兵五进一车６平５ 2. 炮三平六车５平７
3. 帅五进一前卒进１ 4. 帅五退一前卒进１
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3回合如何能進帥

作者: xqahz010 时间: 2022-4-29 09:45
这样黑胜定了吧

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-4-29 09:56
ttbbs 是作者網名嗎

作者: xqahz010 时间: 2022-4-29 09:59

聨吟客发表于 2022-4-29 09:56
ttbbs 是作者網名嗎

应该说是的，陈老师看看6楼着法是否正确

作者: zhaodi 时间: 2022-5-2 23:23
加工一下，变成和棋。变化更复杂

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-5-2 23:57

zhaodi 发表于 2022-5-2 23:23
加工一下，变成和棋。变化更复杂

趙老師好好久不見您來討論了真開心看到您

17回合可否續走帥四平五帥可長捉子而中炮不敢打卒所以炮不存在捉子
這樣是否判和局呢

作者: sdndsx 时间: 2022-5-3 04:44
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2022-5-3 04:56 编辑

谢谢各位老师！

http://www.zgxqds.com/bbs/text.asp?id=129102

9楼 zhaodi 老师的改局很棒！

10楼聨吟客老师 17回合可否續走帥四平五

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-5-3 09:26

sdndsx 发表于 2022-5-3 04:44
谢谢各位老师！

http://www.zgxqds.com/bbs/text.asp?id=129102

嗯那15回合時黑就可後卒進1
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-5-3 09:36
15回合紅應進炮可勝

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作者: yjr123 时间: 2022-5-3 13:44
聨吟客收回了一个帖子？按大陆规则应该红胜。
哦，移到推荐位置上去了。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-5-3 14:24

yjr123 发表于 2022-5-3 13:44
聨吟客收回了一个帖子？按大陆规则应该红胜。

不知被誰按推薦跑到2樓去了

呵呵呵呵呵呵呵

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-5-3 14:31
我用人腦的喔

作者: 石川铃华老湿 时间: 2022-5-3 14:39
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作者: xqahz010 时间: 2022-5-3 14:48

聨吟客发表于 2022-5-3 14:31
我用人腦的喔

软件竟然走帅五退一

作者: xqahz010 时间: 2022-5-3 14:49
人脑穷了多种变化，还在着结尾时翻车了

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-5-3 14:58

xqahz010 发表于 2022-5-3 14:48
软件竟然走帅五退一

如果軟件用的是亞洲規則

帥五退一也沒錯

不知軟件有用大陸規則的嗎

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-5-3 15:02
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2022-5-3 15:06 编辑

石川铃华老湿发表于 2022-5-3 14:39

這算中陷阱吧
不過原局也已被解成黑勝

作者: xqahz010 时间: 2022-5-3 15:15
软件没有提示红负反而认为和局
但内地规则确实不允许这么走

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-5-4 10:09

xqahz010 发表于 2022-5-3 15:15
软件没有提示红负反而认为和局
但内地规则确实不允许这么走

應該是軟件沒有提示紅勝...............

作者: zhaodi 时间: 2022-5-5 09:40
经咨询裁判，最后确实是红胜。(黑一将一捉，红一杀一闲，黑不变作负）

作者: xqahz010 时间: 2022-5-5 09:52

zhaodi 发表于 2022-5-5 09:40
经咨询裁判，最后确实是红胜。(黑一将一捉，红一杀一闲，黑不变作负）

这样黑方太冤枉了

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-5-5 10:28

陸規紅勝亞規和局

棋攤上都算紅方破解就是了

作者: xqahz010 时间: 2022-5-5 10:39

聨吟客发表于 2022-5-5 10:28
陸規紅勝亞規和局

棋攤上都算紅方破解就是了

红先黑后
长将作负
悔棋为输
和棋红胜
:

作者: zhaodi 时间: 2022-5-5 11:52
排局创作，红先胜、红先和都是成功之局，唯有红先黑胜是失败之局。这样看，我把红先黑胜之局改成红先胜，也算是成功了。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-5-5 12:05

zhaodi 发表于 2022-5-5 11:52
排局创作，红先胜、红先和都是成功之局，唯有红先黑胜是失败之局。这样看，我把红先黑胜之局改成红先胜，也 ...

同意這樣的紅勝局成功成立 (有走到最後而不是走到一半就用規則取勝)

而使用亞規地區判和局也是成立的

作者: xqahz010 时间: 2022-5-5 13:10
我也同意，唯有黑胜不能接受

作者: xqahz010 时间: 2022-5-5 13:13
杀法确实精彩纷呈，成功修改

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-5-7 11:02
這個局面就無規則問題可和

只是興起舉例說明大家別誤會呵呵呵呵呵當然沒有趙老師的改局好
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