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标题: 求指教，和改进 [打印本页]

作者: ttbbs 时间: 2022-11-5 10:23
标题: 求指教，和改进
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作者: ttbbs 时间: 2022-11-6 13:53
学习下陈老师的添子[DhtmlXQ]
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作者: 古婺 时间: 2022-11-8 09:40
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作者: ttbbs 时间: 2022-11-8 13:54

古婺发表于 2022-11-8 09:40
黑胜了吧：

感谢老师回复！第五回合如果兵三平四如何，求指教！

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-11-8 15:16

ttbbs 发表于 2022-11-8 13:54
感谢老师回复！第五回合如果兵三平四如何，求指教！

兵不在三路

作者: ttbbs 时间: 2022-11-8 22:23

聨吟客发表于 2022-11-8 15:16
兵不在三路

应该是兵二平三，退车看炮之后再走兵三平四，口误口误！

作者: ttbbs 时间: 2022-11-12 09:44
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[/DhtmlXQ]都来论坛这么久了，说说姓名也无妨，虽然我是学生，但是我已经成年了，不要把我想象成初中生或者。。。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-11-12 12:01

ttbbs 发表于 2022-11-12 09:44
都来论坛这么久了，说说姓名也无妨，虽然我是学生，但是我已经成年了，不要把我想象成初中生或者。。。

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-11-12 12:23
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作者: ttbbs 时间: 2022-11-12 12:55

聨吟客发表于 2022-11-12 12:23

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作者: ttbbs 时间: 2022-11-12 13:01
本帖最后由 ttbbs 于 2022-11-12 13:02 编辑

ttbbs 发表于 2022-11-12 12:55

一个帽子里挖了三个坑，哈哈

作者: xqahz010 时间: 2022-11-12 13:15
本帖最后由 xqahz010 于 2022-11-12 13:21 编辑

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作者: 凌云子 时间: 2022-11-12 13:16
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作者: ttbbs 时间: 2022-11-12 13:24

凌云子发表于 2022-11-12 13:16

能见到如此排局名家不胜荣幸，本来我拟这局就是和朋友切磋的，如果有什么不当敬请指出！

作者: ttbbs 时间: 2022-11-12 13:25
本帖最后由 ttbbs 于 2022-11-12 13:26 编辑

凌云子发表于 2022-11-12 13:24

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-11-12 13:25
我的補充走法有注意逃底兵主變卻忽略了呵呵

改升車
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-11-12 13:28
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2022-11-12 13:30 编辑

yjr123 发表于 2022-11-12 13:25

我的補充走法有這個變化不知是否正確
9樓

作者: 凌云子 时间: 2022-11-12 13:30

yjr123 发表于 2022-11-12 13:25

14与18楼都看到同一问题，

作者: ttbbs 时间: 2022-11-12 13:33

凌云子发表于 2022-11-12 13:30
14与18楼都看到同一问题，

十分可惜，加个黑象成黑胜了，如果删去可以按照原局意图走和

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-11-12 13:33

凌云子发表于 2022-11-12 13:30
14与18楼都看到同一问题，

9樓可否解決這個問題

作者: ttbbs 时间: 2022-11-12 13:35
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作者: ttbbs 时间: 2022-11-12 13:36

聨吟客发表于 2022-11-12 12:23

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-11-12 13:48

ttbbs 发表于 2022-11-12 13:36

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-11-12 14:13
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作者: ttbbs 时间: 2022-11-12 14:24

聨吟客发表于 2022-11-12 14:13
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-11-12 15:25

ttbbs 发表于 2022-11-12 14:24

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作者: 凌云子 时间: 2022-11-12 16:12

ttbbs 发表于 2022-11-12 13:24
能见到如此排局名家不胜荣幸，本来我拟这局就是和朋友切磋的，如果有什么不当敬请指出！

排局名家不敢当，"指出"有风险，因为建议会被当讽刺，指点变成居高临下的指指点点，指教就是指着脑袋说教[偷笑]
言多必失，容易得罪人，本不想说。但是我当年也是从新人走过来的，得到很多前辈老师们的照顾，所以对新人有所表示，下面谈谈个人对排局图与着的理解。
A，图
一个很不错的排局雏形如何改进成形。幼儿园的入门诠改手段有四法:换子法，移子法，减子法，加子法。单一运用某一方法也能得到好局。
更多时候需要魔改，综合运用二种或二种以上诠改方法，成功铸就成品，达至小学水准。
以加子法为例:
理论上加车马炮在棋盘上有80多点位，兵(卒)有50点位左右，相(象)有7位点，士有5点位。
除了加1子，还有加2子3子……
除了加单方子力，还有红黑双方都添加子力。
单纯添加兵(卒)或相(象)，通常不改变棋局的脱帽。所以它们最没有技术含量。

B，着

从上面最后一段文字可以看出，一秒钟就成百上千的棋图出现。
我们是不可以把这类图直接发论坛上，让网友完善着法得出正确结论。拆解棋局的着法这事得自已做，从成百上千棋图，初筛出有价值的图。
认为有价值的棋图，无论红胜黑胜或简单和局，都要测出完整着法，建棋库存档。
佳局本天成，妙手偶得之。那天突发灵感，从棋库草图之中，诠改出一则好局。有付出就有回报，只改图不测着，是很难得到好局的。完成拆解棋局着法，能达初中水平。
从一开始养好改图拆局的好习惯，会进步很快地。否则几十年下去还是原地踏步。
下图是我的拆棋习惯，供参考！

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我是泥腿子半路出家，先天不足
唐先生是大学生吧？！
学会象棋桥建库，软件辅助拆棋，很容易后来居上，超越我们的。

不妥之处，祈见解！

作者: ttbbs 时间: 2022-11-12 16:16

凌云子发表于 2022-11-12 16:12
排局名家不敢当，"指出"有风险，因为建议会被当讽刺，指点变成居高临下的指指点点，指教就是指着脑袋说教 ...

不敢当"先生"之名，摆残局本来是爱好之一，后来起步也不一定比得上前辈的深厚啊！

作者: ttbbs 时间: 2022-11-12 16:22

聨吟客发表于 2022-11-12 15:25

原来陈老师考虑到了炮4平3，此路黑胜！

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-11-12 19:10
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2022-11-12 19:20 编辑

嗯炮4平3 變化應黑勝
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-11-12 19:53

凌云子发表于 2022-11-12 16:12
排局名家不敢当，"指出"有风险，因为建议会被当讽刺，指点变成居高临下的指指点点，指教就是指着脑袋说教 ...

不必耿耿於懷

您是名家當之無愧

您比我強  也比我勤勉  是事實  我很欽佩

只是我懶散逍遙慣了  我的方式能有如此之成就已非常滿足且自豪

不想有太多負擔或使命或目標目的等等  (例如出版個人專輯  參加排局比賽  成為什麼排局家封號,,,)

能參加百花齊放  或有人編書收錄幾局我已非常開心

太過刻苦的方式不適合我  我也不喜歡那樣

您可以認為我故步自封不求進步  但我自己知道怎麼做符合自己個性輕鬆快樂逍遙自在

呵呵呵你的建議壓得我喘不過氣來  確實讓我覺得有被欺壓的感覺

不過現在話說開了  我們當作誤會一場吧  恢復好友情誼

敖兄握個手

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-11-13 12:24
還有什麼以超越七星　大征西　　為目標

呵呵呵呵　呵　　那離我太遙遠　　我就是以興趣趣味快樂為目的

用一個比喻　　我只想戀愛　　不想結婚生子負責任經營婚姻家庭

呵呵呵呵呵　

話說回來　我也有很多整理很好自自認為非常滿意的佳作　只是比例無法像敖兄那麼高　方式無法像敖兄那麼精細就是了　我用自己的方式很滿意很快樂　若用敖兄的方式我會痛苦萬分的

我那局騎麟西狩　即大征西的再改局　　不敢說超越　　但至少是增加精彩的變著
經劍影獨步先生協助詳解　這樣我也很感激　很開心

作者: ttbbs 时间: 2022-11-14 22:02
本帖最后由 ttbbs 于 2022-11-14 22:05 编辑

聨吟客发表于 2022-11-13 12:24
還有什麼以超越七星　大征西　　為目標

呵呵呵呵　呵　　那離我太遙遠　　我就是以興趣趣味快樂為目的

我一个业余的摆棋人，不能和专业的棋友相比，而且前辈们功力深厚我也可望不可及。至于征西，大七星这种大局是我一辈子达不到的高度啊

，我能有炮若春雷这局车炮士兵对车炮象卒的满意棋局就够啦。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-11-14 22:58

ttbbs 发表于 2022-11-14 22:02
我一个业余的摆棋人，不能和专业的棋友相比，而且前辈们功力深厚我也可望不可及。至于征西，大七星这种大 ...

你有在擺棋喔

大陸的城管或公安武警會管的嗎

有合法的空間可以擺棋嗎

台灣以前的棋攤也是要躲警察呵呵呵

作者: ttbbs 时间: 2022-11-15 12:12
本帖最后由 ttbbs 于 2022-11-15 12:14 编辑

聨吟客发表于 2022-11-14 22:58
你有在擺棋喔

大陸的城管或公安武警會管的嗎

偶尔公园去，一般学校摆，这里没警察管

，而且这里的公园好久都没见过下棋的了，偶尔摆一摆没问题。

作者: ttbbs 时间: 2022-11-15 12:19

聨吟客发表于 2022-11-14 22:58
你有在擺棋喔

大陸的城管或公安武警會管的嗎

而且我算不了什么江湖棋人，开始学习是因为偶然见到四金刚这局后来了兴趣，那天下午和朋友拆解，直到拆解完毕才发现江湖棋奥妙无穷

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-11-15 17:07

ttbbs 发表于 2022-11-15 12:12
偶尔公园去，一般学校摆，这里没警察管，而且这里的公园好久都没见过下棋的了，偶尔摆一摆没问题。

真不錯呵呵呵呵呵

偶爾也可擺敖兄大濕 ................等高手的局還有區區在下的局呵呵呵呵看看效果如何
呵呵呵呵呵呵呵........................................

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-11-17 09:42

ttbbs 发表于 2022-11-14 22:02
我一个业余的摆棋人，不能和专业的棋友相比，而且前辈们功力深厚我也可望不可及。至于征西，大七星这种大 ...

大七星? 喔 !! 買尬的!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

期待

作者: 石川铃华老湿 时间: 2022-11-17 10:38
大湿驾到…
闲杂人等靠边站好，准备听训词！

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-11-17 20:42

石川铃华老湿发表于 2022-11-17 10:38
大湿驾到…
闲杂人等靠边站好，准备听训词！

雷聲大沒有雨沒有雨

作者: 石川铃华老湿 时间: 2022-11-17 23:25

聨吟客发表于 2022-11-17 20:42
雷聲大沒有雨沒有雨

听好了，古人都知道的道理：文无第一，武无第二。
一群SB，整天老想着老子是残局界第一，那是SB行为！
至于大湿，那是无人能比的。
因为大湿太湿了，已超出五行六界

作者: ttbbs 时间: 2022-12-5 10:34
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