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标题: 红胜假象更加逼真 [打印本页]
作者: sdndsx    时间: 2024-6-1 13:02
标题: 红胜假象更加逼真
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2024-6-13 12:06 编辑

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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2024-6-2 08:51
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作者: 石川铃华老湿    时间: 2024-6-2 11:48
得到聨吟客的真传！
添了一堆棋子
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2024-6-2 22:35
石川铃华老湿 发表于 2024-6-2 11:48
得到聨吟客的真传！
添了一堆棋子

還可添一個相  紅仍不勝

作者: sdndsx    时间: 2024-6-3 13:40
多谢关注！
江湖排局的核心在于：
初始局面具有红胜假象。假象越是逼真，江湖味道越是浓厚。
1楼添加了三个红兵。这三个红兵添在其它点位行不行？
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-3 13:55
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2024-6-3 13:57 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment28]控制红相活动的好棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_34]若卒8平7，则兵三平四，红多兵胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_34]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment6_25]红劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_25]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_15]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]王振拟局，黑加边卒，红三高兵仍和。||||在同型局中最接近《新江湖残局破解》之“跟踪追击”，或系改自后者。因手头暂缺百20，着法采自东萍网。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2024-6-3 14:17
6樓改得好啊

我有改一局添一個高兵的  紅勝局  但紅須走出調整單雙步的妙手

忘了貼在哪裡了
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-3 14:36
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2024-6-3 14:37 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment50]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment50][DhtmlXQ_comment3_23]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_23][DhtmlXQ_comment0]裘望禹拟局，《百8》取名“平步青云”。||||本局布子差异较大，且||如邢春波先生所改拟的“秦岭横云”，着法已完全不同，但个人认为它仍是《蕉竹斋》“鱼行漫衍”的改局，约相当于黑加中卒，红加中象位兵。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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作者: yjr123    时间: 2024-6-3 14:36
聨吟客 发表于 2024-6-3 14:17
6樓改得好啊

我有改一局添一個高兵的  紅勝局  但紅須走出調整單雙步的妙手

这是你改的？

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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-3 14:36
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2024-6-3 15:02 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2]6564403043333848493958598489[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_2][DhtmlXQ_comment2_7]这里按东萍网对《新江湖残局破解》179局“跟踪追击”的诠正着法，亦应红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_7][DhtmlXQ_comment2_13]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_13][DhtmlXQ_comment0]此局采自东萍网，不知何人所拟，在同类局中着法新颖，但不知着法是否成立，应是红胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2024-6-3 14:52
yjr123 发表于 2024-6-3 14:36
这是你改的？

我的邊兵在九五位   也算撞了   呵呵呵

這種很容易撞
作者: yjr123    时间: 2024-6-3 14:53
老鸽子 发表于 2024-6-3 14:36

是《蕉竹斋》“鱼行漫衍”的改局

《蕉竹斋》“鱼行漫衍”的原局是怎样的？
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2024-6-3 15:43
查蕉竹齋白老師詮注本  無魚行漫衍局

魚行漫衍  這局名好有趣  呵呵呵

魚龍漫衍 成語  古代雜技變幻之術  可能類似現代的魔術
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-3 15:48
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2024-6-3 16:42 编辑
yjr123 发表于 2024-6-3 14:53
是《蕉竹斋》“鱼行漫衍”的改局

《蕉竹斋》“鱼行漫衍”的原局是怎样的？

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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2024-6-3 16:03
哦  魚行漫衍  就是這局喔

那我較喜歡 魚行漫衍 局名
作者: yjr123    时间: 2024-6-3 16:29
呵呵，用别名，怪不得找不到
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-3 16:49
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2024-6-3 17:00 编辑
聨吟客 发表于 2024-6-3 14:17
6樓改得好啊

我有改一局添一個高兵的  紅勝局  但紅須走出調整單雙步的妙手

这是我最喜欢的一则同类改局，江湖味浓，所以才帖出来。
另请老兄帮我看看第10楼“画蛇添足”局着法是否成立，我已选用，但若着法不成立，则去之。
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2024-6-3 22:31
鴿兄太了解我了  知道我要對10樓出手了 呵呵呵呵呵
看看改成這樣可否   待確認一些細節再貼走法
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2024-6-4 00:57
添相妙  底兵完善  自我感覺良好  爽

大濕兄  你說是吧
作者: yjr123    时间: 2024-6-4 08:54
老鸽子 发表于 2024-6-3 16:49
这是我最喜欢的一则同类改局，江湖味浓，所以才帖出来。
另请老兄帮我看看第10楼“画蛇添足”局着法是否 ...

第4回合红败着，变着胜！

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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-4 12:20
yjr123 发表于 2024-6-4 08:54
第4回合红败着，变着胜！

这样的话，此局的着法完全不能成立，就作废了！
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-4 12:30
聨吟客 发表于 2024-6-4 00:57
添相妙  底兵完善  自我感覺良好  爽

大濕兄  你說是吧

添相挡红车退守可以，兵、卒的步数恰到好处，应无问题，就是它了！
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-4 13:12
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2024-6-4 13:14 编辑
聨吟客 发表于 2024-6-3 14:52
我的邊兵在九五位   也算撞了   呵呵呵

這種很容易撞

边兵在9·5位那局原名“新跟踪追击”，很不错的，我早就收藏了。在东萍网还可看到豫东棋人改了好几局，虽说没发现什么问题，但没有新意，故一局都没选。
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-4 13:28
sdndsx 发表于 2024-6-3 13:40
多谢关注！
江湖排局的核心在于：
初始局面具有红胜假象。假象越是逼真，江湖味道越是浓厚。

完全赞同，改局难免加子，作为一种有实际意义的改法，是可行的！
作者: yjr123    时间: 2024-6-4 13:50
我认为江湖残局具备红胜假象只是表象，实质应该是红方似优实劣，红方易胜假象引人入彀，红方实际着法艰难才能保证摊主赚钱。看似红优，实际也是红优。不是好的江湖残局。

本局修改后红优势是加强了，但着法难度丝毫没有增加，无趣！
作者: sdndsx    时间: 2024-6-4 13:52
老鸽子 发表于 2024-6-4 13:28
完全赞同，改局难免加子，作为一种有实际意义的改法，是可行的！

多谢关注！
1楼只添加了三个红兵，着法也没有带来什么新意。
但是，如果不添加黑子，只添加三个红兵，点位是唯一的，就有的意思了。
作者: yjr123    时间: 2024-6-4 14:03
sdndsx 发表于 2024-6-4 13:52
多谢关注！
1楼只添加了三个红兵，着法也没有带来什么新意。
但是，如果不添加黑子，只添加三个红兵， ...

本质上就是添加3个毫无作用的冗子

可能百分之七八十的排局，增加几个角底兵卒都不影响着法。
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2024-6-4 16:43
多謝鴿兄

大濕又要吃味了  全身過敏發癢
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-4 16:44
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2024-6-4 16:46 编辑
yjr123 发表于 2024-6-4 13:50
我认为江湖残局具备红胜假象只是表象，实质应该是红方似优实劣，红方易胜假象引人入彀，红方实际着法艰难才 ...

余老师说的当然在理，但要求似乎过高。此局在局名中就已言明，只是增加红胜假象，着法确实也无明显的提高，但延长了着法。作为改局的一种基本构思之一，它的存在仍是必要的。个人认为，若对这则改局进行投票，赞成的应该占到50%，即与不赞成的形成对半开！
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2024-6-4 17:05
我改的那局畫蛇添足除了添相 也有添角底兵  呵呵呵  屬於百分之二三十的少數

如無此兵 黑可勝  

還有添象征西局  我也添角底兵 使之能和

呵呵呵  余葛格  的發言  引起我興趣   呵呵呵呵
以後再看看有何局適合添角底兵的或有 想起以前改的

有反骨  當少數很爽百分之二三十還算多了

作者: yjr123    时间: 2024-6-4 21:28
有用的角底兵卒还是有很多的，故意添加冗子底兵卒的才是凤毛麟角，极端少数，爽透了吧
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2024-6-4 22:57
這個角底兵可否
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2024-6-4 23:16
yjr123 发表于 2024-6-4 21:28
有用的角底兵卒还是有很多的，故意添加冗子底兵卒的才是凤毛麟角，极端少数，爽透了吧

呵呵

1樓最後卒不換炮也能和   否則來個紅黑顛倒   倒也可以  

我改不出來卒換炮與不換炮只有一種能和的  顛倒倒是好辦

作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2024-6-4 23:28
我好像又有想法了  搞出來再說
作者: sdndsx    时间: 2024-6-8 04:32
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2024-6-13 12:05 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_title]002红胜假象更加逼真[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_owner]时鑫的象棋库[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]时鑫的象棋库[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15]以上着法都是必走之着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16]只有这样走，才能和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21]红方两闲，||黑方一杀一闲，||双方不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_16]黑如强行变着则负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]红方胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]时鑫 试改||||曾作为简洁小泥马（中高兵）的诠正局，被收录载于《江湖棋局搜秘》增订本。||——时鑫 修饰并加注。||9/4k1P2/9/9/7PC/1n7/9/8B/4N4/3AKA3 r[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]如果没有八路三个红兵，这步棋是唯一的取胜着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_17]这个局面可以走八路任意一个红兵，逼迫黑方走棋，即可取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_17]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2024-6-9 00:55
茲按照時老師的方式改 局   呵呵呵   黑是否仍可和
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2024-6-9 11:57
再來顛倒一番  呵呵
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作者: yjr123    时间: 2024-6-9 12:14
聨吟客 发表于 2024-6-9 11:57
再來顛倒一番  呵呵

重重报丧？
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2024-6-9 19:14
yjr123 发表于 2024-6-9 12:14
重重报丧？

出問題了嗎   我再看看
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2024-6-10 08:47
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2024-6-10 09:18 编辑

未發現紅有勝法  哪裡出問題呢  
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[DhtmlXQ_comment38]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_38]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_38]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_22]||黑優[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_22]黑優[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_22]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_21]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_21]
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作者: 豫东棋人    时间: 2024-6-10 11:44
本帖最后由 豫东棋人 于 2024-6-10 12:41 编辑

余俊瑞老师第42楼喜報重重 添三個兵 聨吟客改局此局是红胜啊，他怎么走成和局了[DhtmlXQ]
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作者: sdndsx    时间: 2024-6-10 11:44
聨吟客 发表于 2024-6-10 08:47
未發現紅有勝法  哪裡出問題呢

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[DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_38]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_38]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_22]黑優[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_21]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_21]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_16_5]42604140[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_16_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_20]||不變和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_20]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_14_7]40307060306081612636415157516160[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_14_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_21]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_21]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_32]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_12]似黑稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_12]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2024-6-10 12:10
豫东棋人 发表于 2024-6-10 11:44
余俊瑞老师第42楼喜報重重 添三個兵 聨吟客改局此局是红胜啊，他怎么走成和局了

在下學藝不精  棋力低微  有賴大家指導了
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2024-6-10 12:15
喔   哈哈哈   知道了   多謝各位
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2024-6-10 12:22
七路兵刪除  添兩個兵就好  呵呵呵   有無好位置添第三個兵呢
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2024-6-10 12:57
這樣會如何
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作者: 豫东棋人    时间: 2024-6-10 13:18
陈明仁老师第39楼是黑胜吧
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作者: yjr123    时间: 2024-6-10 13:52
聨吟客 发表于 2024-6-10 12:10
在下學藝不精  棋力低微  有賴大家指導了

和你说了，上皮卡鱼网页版试试，云库棋力受限，皮卡鱼分析模式可以不限时间计算，可以消除很多盲点。
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2024-6-11 08:40
48樓應也紅勝
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作者: 石川铃华老湿    时间: 2024-6-11 11:40
yjr123 发表于 2024-6-9 12:14
重重报丧？

这局名，可谓菊眼！精妙！

聨吟客你服气没有
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2024-6-11 12:18
石川铃华老湿 发表于 2024-6-11 11:40
这局名，可谓菊眼！精妙！

聨吟客你服气没有

錯誤率或爛局當然還是有的   再修正即可

你要多多看我成功滿意之作的嘛

龍年至今我作或改了很多成功滿意的捏   不要只見一兩三棵枯樹  卻不見整片茂林
作者: 石川铃华老湿    时间: 2024-6-11 19:08
聨吟客 发表于 2024-6-11 12:18
錯誤率或爛局當然還是有的   再修正即可

你要多多看我成功滿意之作的嘛

话说台湾的教育那么差吗？
每次你面对吐槽为什么老是那么认真？
关系不好的人，你见过我们吐槽吗？
白活了那么多的长时间。
这点还用大湿来教？

作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2024-6-11 19:29
石川铃华老湿 发表于 2024-6-11 19:08
话说台湾的教育那么差吗？
每次你面对吐槽为什么老是那么认真？
关系不好的人，你见过我们吐槽吗？

哦

你這段話比我還認真

作者: sdndsx    时间: 2024-6-13 12:00
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2024-6-13 12:03 编辑

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作者: sdndsx    时间: 2024-6-30 03:38
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2024-9-17 14:55 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment15_7]红方弃车。好棋！[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_7]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_7]败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_7]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment15_5]正确[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_5]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment9_6]精准[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_6]软着[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_6]
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作者: 豫东棋人    时间: 2024-6-30 17:00
一十位九十位的两个红兵可以去了没有用上
作者: yjr123    时间: 2024-6-30 17:10
主题就是尽量增加冗子

还可以再增加红相
作者: 豫东棋人    时间: 2024-6-30 19:51
一十位九十位的两个红兵可以去了没有用上，废子啊余老师
作者: yjr123    时间: 2024-6-30 20:16
就是要加红废子增加多子优势假象

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此局是本系列的反局，流行很广。据《象艺万象》所选，应出自1950年代以前。



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