图3怎么会撞车？会不会是实战出现的局势？



《象棋残局巧胜战法》苏德龙 2003年出版

凌云子 发表于 2009-12-12 16:43
作者挑战名局"野马"失败,下面是诠正着法:

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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]以下黑必胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]
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黑方只有一个攻子占据防守要点，附带产生的捉士相不算捉

規則問題
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_19]以下红方可胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_19]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment25]黑是否須變著[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
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凌云子 发表于 2009-12-12 15:59
图2原谱着法的第5回合,红方应该帅五平四助攻!!
诠正着法如下:

2楼应该是和局

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[DhtmlXQ_author]秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_movelist]8414556314104340101363751353404153034140526240416261756303635040493941313949314163034148495948495958494403004041615141310020[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_6_1]63441353404149594121525150405150403053332131504030403331[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_6_1]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_13_2]51414041535141405121[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_13_2]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_19]以下红方可胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_19]
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另有精妙变化……
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_19]以下红方可胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_19]
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图3结尾 ，红方可以巧胜，原作者误以为和。取胜方法在《兵车行象棋谱》等书在有介绍。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999693759489999549999999999992199999999329999994699999999992616[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-7-26 0:45:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2007-7-26 0:45:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]0[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_author]秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_other] [/DhtmlXQ_other] [DhtmlXQ_hits]1[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_price]0[/DhtmlXQ_price] [DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_hidden]0[/DhtmlXQ_hidden] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]

图一, 第2回合或者第5回合直接吃马和. 黑方第2回合另有和法. [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999949999999449999999999994299999999509999535699999999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-7-26 0:45:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2007-7-26 0:45:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]0[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_author]秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_other] [/DhtmlXQ_other] [DhtmlXQ_hits]1[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_price]0[/DhtmlXQ_price] [DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_hidden]0[/DhtmlXQ_hidden] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]4252534544424537494856584847374542455852[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_4_16_1]36573848554541455745[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_16_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_2]44455652[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_4_9_3]42445652[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_9_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_4_4]4557494857364849364452625659494844364838595542413617383955253949252949481736483836573848294948584941[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_4_4] [/DhtmlXQ]

图一第八回合红车五平四兑车和. [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999938999999429999999999996299999999509999365599999999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-7-26 0:45:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2007-7-26 0:45:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]0[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_author]秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_other] [/DhtmlXQ_other] [DhtmlXQ_hits]1[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_price]0[/DhtmlXQ_price] [DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_hidden]0[/DhtmlXQ_hidden] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]425255526252[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]

图一第八回合红车五进一是劣着?黑可胜. [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999949999999449999999999994299999999509999535699999999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-7-26 0:45:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2007-7-26 0:45:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]0[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_author]秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_other] [/DhtmlXQ_other] [DhtmlXQ_hits]1[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_price]0[/DhtmlXQ_price] [DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_hidden]0[/DhtmlXQ_hidden] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]4252534544424557494857364849364452625659494844364838595542413617383955253949252949481736483836573848294948584941[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_1]36573848554541455745[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_1] [/DhtmlXQ]

[quote]2009年第6期"车马防守车兵的残局心得"(作者刘宝友P33---P34)G共有四图,其中三个图的着法值得商确. 图1是唯一的和局,结论正确,但此文的作者的拟着错的离谱. 图1的作者着法: [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999949999999449999999999994299999999509999535699999999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-7-26 0:45:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2007-7-26 0:45:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]0[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_author]秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_other] [/DhtmlXQ_other] [DhtmlXQ_hits]1[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_price]0[/DhtmlXQ_price] [DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_hidden]0[/DhtmlXQ_hidden] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]42525345444245574948573648493644526256594948443648385955424136573848554541455745[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者挑战名局"野马"失败,下面是诠正着法: [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]6999079959992944549999999999999999999950304120998699999999033848[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-7-26 0:45:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2007-7-26 0:45:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]0[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_author]秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_other] [/DhtmlXQ_other] [DhtmlXQ_hits]1[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_price]0[/DhtmlXQ_price] [DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_hidden]0[/DhtmlXQ_hidden] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]445686885648384829470304072904056979888654584858595879750506[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_33]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_33] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_1]051547691516797688686987686776466787464887895958898858598848545616175657481857471819595819185859[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_1][DhtmlXQ_comment15]以下黑必胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment15] [/DhtmlXQ]

图4,作者着法如下: [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]6999079959992944549999999999999999999950304120998699999999033848[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-7-26 0:45:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2007-7-26 0:45:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]0[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_author]秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_other] [/DhtmlXQ_other] [DhtmlXQ_hits]1[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_price]0[/DhtmlXQ_price] [DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_hidden]0[/DhtmlXQ_hidden] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]445686885648384829470304072904056979051547691516797688686987686776466787464887895958898858598848545616175657481857471819595819185859[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment33]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33] [/DhtmlXQ]

图3,作者的弃马思路不成立,红兵可以从路长驱直下,很容易取胜. [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999694859394799559999999999993499999999309999450599999999992604[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-7-26 0:45:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2007-7-26 0:45:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]0[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_author]秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_other] [/DhtmlXQ_other] [DhtmlXQ_hits]1[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_price]0[/DhtmlXQ_price] [DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_hidden]0[/DhtmlXQ_hidden] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]4725052534444537555030314837254550400405444326364342454637480515485715253948252659492627493927284232313240462829393836374837[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_1]505404054434453539480506344435454434453534240616242335325424314123223242222142432434434621314142345442323121[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_3_25_2]3525423231324046[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_25_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_3]253559493525253549394656404131304232[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_4]273748373637423231324046[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_4] [/DhtmlXQ]

图3的作者着法非常混乱, 原谱着法1,相五进七!车1平3 . 2.兵六平五 马5进4 3.士五进六车3平5................. 第3回合肯定有误,红方必须车四进五将军后再吃,根据上下推测着法应该是这样的: [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999694859394799559999999999993499999999309999450599999999992604[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-7-26 0:45:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2007-7-26 0:45:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]0[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_author]秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_other] [/DhtmlXQ_other] [DhtmlXQ_hits]1[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_price]0[/DhtmlXQ_price] [DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_hidden]0[/DhtmlXQ_hidden] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]47250525344445375550303148372545505404054434453539480506344435454434453534240616242335325424314123223242222142432434434621314142345442323121[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ] 再补充一下点----------第12与13回合之间还是有错无法连接.

图2原谱着法的第5回合,红方应该帅五平四助攻!! 诠正着法如下: [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999949489999849999999999995299998299509960554399999999999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-7-26 0:45:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2007-7-26 0:45:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]0[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_author]秀行先生[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_other] [/DhtmlXQ_other] [DhtmlXQ_hits]1[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_price]0[/DhtmlXQ_price] [DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_hidden]0[/DhtmlXQ_hidden] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]8414556314104340101363441353404149594121525150405150403053332131504030403331[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_1]52424151534351564241443649393648393848674333675938395947394947284939563633362836[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_2]51414041535141405121[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_2][DhtmlXQ_comment19]以下红方可胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment19] [/DhtmlXQ]