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各位棋友：这个排局（有点像盲公顶棍）的结论拿捏不准，敬请赐教。

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yuntao云涛 发表于 2015-2-2 23:01:08
一卒擎天 发表于 2015-2-2 20:34
10回改走卒6平7？

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一卒擎天 发表于 2015-2-2 20:34:18
yuntao云涛 发表于 2015-2-2 19:35
试举一解

10回改走卒6平7？
一卒擎天 发表于 2015-2-2 20:08:35
yjr123 发表于 2015-2-2 19:13
这局是云涛提出的

红先和，黒先红胜应该很早就有，但基本上是单双步棋局，以盲公顶棍为基础是第一局。

双方子力不同，不查步的可有？
yuntao云涛 发表于 2015-2-2 19:35:11
yjr123 发表于 2015-2-2 19:13
这局是云涛提出的

红先和，黒先红胜应该很早就有，但基本上是单双步棋局，以盲公顶棍为基础是第一局。

试举一解
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yuntao云涛 发表于 2015-2-2 19:31:43
yjr123 发表于 2015-2-2 19:13
这局是云涛提出的

红先和，黒先红胜应该很早就有，但基本上是单双步棋局，以盲公顶棍为基础是第一局。

此局红先黑优势，但残局胜和不是很确定
yuntao云涛 发表于 2015-2-2 19:27:47
本帖最后由 yuntao云涛 于 2015-2-2 19:28 编辑
高原红 发表于 2015-2-2 12:37

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yjr123 发表于 2015-2-2 19:13:09
一卒擎天 发表于 2015-2-2 18:13
余先生：首先给您一个赞！
     红先和，黒先红胜是个新理念！这也是我多年的梦想。。。

这局是云涛提出的

红先和，黒先红胜应该很早就有，但基本上是单双步棋局，以盲公顶棍为基础是第一局。
一卒擎天 发表于 2015-2-2 18:13:37
yjr123 发表于 2015-2-2 12:28
这局红先和、黑先红胜，有点意思，且把盲公顶棍作为隐着，稍不留心就会入套。

余先生：首先给您一个赞！
     红先和，黒先红胜是个新理念！这也是我多年的梦想。。。

     
高原红 发表于 2015-2-2 12:37:44
本帖最后由 高原红 于 2015-2-2 15:13 编辑
yjr123 发表于 2015-2-2 12:15


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yjr123 发表于 2015-2-2 12:28:14
yuntao云涛 发表于 2015-2-2 11:12
研究这局看看，红先走好像只能求和，涉及到残局，感觉变化挺多，此局可以红黑任选，符合红酒的江湖理念


这局红先和、黑先红胜，有点意思，且把盲公顶棍作为隐着，稍不留心就会入套。

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yjr123 发表于 2015-2-2 12:15:44
高原红 发表于 2015-2-2 11:31

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高原红 发表于 2015-2-2 11:31:07
本帖最后由 高原红 于 2015-2-2 11:45 编辑
yuntao云涛 发表于 2015-2-2 11:05
和


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高原红 发表于 2015-2-2 11:21:07
sdndsx 发表于 2015-2-1 08:25
我的初步探讨不如盲公顶棍好。红胜（可以不按盲公顶棍的着法取胜）。

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yuntao云涛 发表于 2015-2-2 11:12:08
本帖最后由 yuntao云涛 于 2015-2-2 11:24 编辑
yjr123 发表于 2015-2-2 10:23
1楼棋局没有价值，首着红有6种着法可胜。

研究这局看看，红先走好像只能求和，涉及到残局，感觉变化挺多，此局可以红黑任选，符合红酒的江湖理念
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yuntao云涛 发表于 2015-2-2 11:05:32
高原红 发表于 2015-2-2 10:00

和
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yuntao云涛 发表于 2015-2-2 11:01:20
sdndsx 发表于 2015-2-2 10:22
即兴改一下（可能不成立，也可能很低级），不知会有什么结论？请教大家。

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yjr123 发表于 2015-2-2 10:23:14
1楼棋局没有价值，首着红有6种着法可胜。
sdndsx 发表于 2015-2-2 10:22:13
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2015-2-2 10:25 编辑

即兴改一下（可能不成立，也可能很低级），不知会有什么结论？请教大家。
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sdndsx 发表于 2015-2-2 10:09:30
盲公顶棍是古谱排局，属于步数排局。虽有添加兵卒和移动兵卒的改进，构思也不错，但没有新的突破性进展。期望以此为启迪，集思广益，推陈出新，为步数排局添彩，祝排局兴盛！谢谢大家啦！

顺便请教大家，1#和2#对吗？谢谢！
yuntao云涛 发表于 2015-2-2 10:00:42
yjr123 发表于 2015-2-2 09:40

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高原红 发表于 2015-2-2 10:00:23
yuntao云涛 发表于 2015-2-2 09:45
黑胜

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sdndsx 发表于 2015-2-2 09:51:01
yjr123 发表于 2015-2-2 09:40

谢谢先生！这样红方好像还有手段。
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yuntao云涛 发表于 2015-2-2 09:45:08
高原红 发表于 2015-2-2 00:58

黑胜
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yjr123 发表于 2015-2-2 09:40:48
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高原红 发表于 2015-2-2 00:58:16
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yuntao云涛 发表于 2015-2-1 19:57:52
本帖最后由 yuntao云涛 于 2015-2-1 21:43 编辑
杨启忠 发表于 2015-2-1 19:48
嗯，首回合红动炮后，红黑炮之间的步数应为5、4；故第一回合应炮二进二。看看这样行否

红先，结果怎么样呢？
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yuntao云涛 发表于 2015-2-1 19:55:56
杨启忠 发表于 2015-2-1 19:48
嗯，首回合红动炮后，红黑炮之间的步数应为5、4；故第一回合应炮二进二。看看这样行否

应该正确，红可以胜
杨启忠 发表于 2015-2-1 19:48:55
嗯，首回合红动炮后，红黑炮之间的步数应为5、4；故第一回合应炮二进二。看看这样行否

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yuntao云涛 发表于 2015-2-1 18:08:27
杨启忠 发表于 2015-2-1 15:04
楼上有规律，这样如何？

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