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标题: 野馬操田改局 [打印本页]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-24 20:54
标题: 野馬操田改局
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作者: 桑莫喜 时间: 2015-3-24 21:11
陈先生,这改局够你忙的,先列出大开车二变.[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]7399479939992564749999854684268316999941403020999999999999033748[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_event]江湖八大排局[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_date]2000-10-10[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place]重庆市巫山县[/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_title]野马操田改局 [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_author]龚伟[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_remark]龚伟[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]||如果黑有邊卒,紅子要怎麼擺才能和局呢\u003F此圖是一種嘗試,這只邊卒威力很強,看看紅三邊兵能否制衡他 o[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]7370415064524041523341317071304133523132524432314423313074343040472916262507483839492646495946565949568671798646495938483738234434384838[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_1]71518688344488895159383949488959443459894858898858578885[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_1] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-24 21:13
第一種變化

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-24 21:16
感謝桑兄,大開車也是重要變著,列入我的第二種變化,另外還有第三種變化

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-24 21:27
第二種變化

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-24 21:36
第三種變化脫帽

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-24 21:43
呵呵呵呵,第一種變化較沒問題,第二種第三種變化我還沒有完全透徹,各位高手再幫忙研究研究

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-25 11:59
呵呵呵呵呵,此局體系太龐大,如果紅能和, 將是野馬操田類局中最佳的一局(美中不足是少中象少了誘惑性), 如果黑可勝,黑方也是要一番曲折搏鬥才能獲勝,尚不知到底是哪一種結果.................... 呼叫菜鳥,強軟有何看法呢? 各位高手同好有何看法呢˙?　

作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-25 12:26
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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-25 13:04
上图，图谱都有问题，是黑胜局，我再想法改改！

作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-25 13:41
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-25 20:35
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2015-3-25 20:40 编辑

紅酒兄改局好像可和

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-25 20:42
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-25 20:46
是說正變1好像能和,其他變我還沒研究

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-25 21:22
紅酒兄也研究一下我那個圖

作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-26 00:50
本帖最后由一杯红酒于 2015-3-26 11:48 编辑

上面我的改局，还是不能正和，这是最新的改局，自己拆解为正和，请大家拆解验证！

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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-26 01:03
楼主1#野马操田改局，我拆的是正和，变化有点多

，一时间没法搞细致，还是请楼主细细拆解发谱哦

作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-26 11:03
本帖最后由一杯红酒于 2015-3-26 11:48 编辑

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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-26 11:05
本帖最后由一杯红酒于 2015-3-26 11:47 编辑

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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-26 11:07
本帖最后由一杯红酒于 2015-3-26 11:47 编辑

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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-26 11:28
本帖最后由一杯红酒于 2015-3-26 11:46 编辑

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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-26 11:55
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2015-3-26 13:47

一杯红酒发表于 2015-3-26 11:55

这样变化会如何？

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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-26 20:20

yjr123 发表于 2015-3-26 13:47
这样变化会如何？

包括先生这种走法，黑还有好几种走法，都是黑优势，红苦守，好像红可以守和的节奏，这个尾盘进入实用残局，走法过分庞大，需要细细拆解我再上谱。

作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-27 01:00
拆解发现，我的野马操田改局2是黑胜局！

作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-27 01:59
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2015-3-27 08:56

一杯红酒发表于 2015-3-27 01:00
拆解发现，我的野马操田改局2是黑胜局！

改局1就不是黑胜局吗？

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-27 11:42
本帖最后由聨吟客于 2015-3-27 12:05 编辑

我的呢?第三種變化補充,仍未知結果

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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-27 11:49

聨吟客发表于 2015-3-27 11:42
我的呢?第三種變化補充,仍未知結果

你的我拆的是正和，我的还要验证

作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-27 11:52
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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-27 11:57
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]野马操田改局2||||一杯红酒改拟[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]野马操田改局2||||一杯红酒改拟[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-27 12:03
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]野马操田改局2||||一杯红酒改拟[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57]红胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment57]
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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-27 12:05
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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-27 12:15

yjr123 发表于 2015-3-27 08:56
改局1就不是黑胜局吗？

红酒的野马操田改局1，我拆的是正和，上面列出了3个和谱，请先生指正，局面黑优红守，黑如果有必胜招法，请先生指出，谢谢！

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-27 12:16
28樓有誤,怎麼沒辦法編輯了

作者: yjr123 时间: 2015-3-27 12:27

一杯红酒发表于 2015-3-27 12:15
红酒的野马操田改局1，我拆的是正和，上面列出了3个和谱，请先生指正，局面黑优红守，黑如果有必胜 ...

关键是23楼局面红方是否能够守和，能够守和则1、2都成立，不能则都不成立。

作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-27 13:28

yjr123 发表于 2015-3-27 12:27
关键是23楼局面红方是否能够守和，能够守和则1、2都成立，不能则都不成立。

2局已经修改，1、2局不一样哦！有中象，没有中象，脱帽后红车位不一样，差别很大的，1局我列出了具体走法，你给看看！

作者: yjr123 时间: 2015-3-27 13:44

一杯红酒发表于 2015-3-27 13:28
2局已经修改，1、2局不一样哦！有中象，没有中象，脱帽后红车位不一样，差别很大的，1局我列出了具 ...

本质一样

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]野马操田改局||||    一杯红酒改拟||||这局自己拆解为正和！[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_63]正和！[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_63]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-27 14:07
重貼我的第三種變化研究

最後這局面能不能和?
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_59]||不變作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_58]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_61]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_61]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_73]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_67]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_67]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]如果黑有邊卒,紅子要怎麼擺才能和局呢\u003F此圖是一種嘗試,這只邊卒威力很強,看看紅三邊兵能否制衡他 o(聨吟客)[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment34]脫帽完成,以後有點像蚯蚓降龍o[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_51]紅也勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_51]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment13_49]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_49][DhtmlXQ_move_13_44_12]15165150[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_44_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50]紅能不能和\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment50][DhtmlXQ_move_11_49_10]344440304448[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_49_10]
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2015-3-27 16:16
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]野马操田改局2||||一杯红酒改拟[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]这样结果如何？[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_40_1]7876545848585958765658488575[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_40_1][DhtmlXQ_comment40]演变下去黑胜||改局1也类似，见44楼。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
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作者: yjr123 时间: 2015-3-27 16:23
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聨吟客发表于 2015-3-27 14:07
重貼我的第三種變化研究最後這局面能不能和?

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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-27 17:58
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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-27 18:14

yjr123 发表于 2015-3-27 16:23

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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-27 18:42
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作者: sdndsx 时间: 2015-3-27 19:33
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2015-3-28 09:08 编辑

谢谢分享！学习了！

由于主观上水平所限，客观上还有本职工作，我都不能参与棋图和棋步的探讨。

为什么还要发帖？

因为我在学习过程中惊奇地发现：6楼联吟客和44楼yjr老师解拆一杯红酒改局的帖子中的野马操田，竟然还含有类似蚯蚓降龙的局面。

盼望经过各位朋友的探讨，反复修改，使这个局面最终能够成立（经典的江湖四大名局，经过改拟，出现了一则局中局，应该算是新的突破吧）。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-27 19:43

sdndsx 发表于 2015-3-27 19:33
谢谢分享！学习了！

由于主观上水平所限，客观上还有本职工作，我都不能参与棋图和棋步的探讨。

含有類似蚯蚓降龍局面應該是我所率先開創

作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-27 19:50
红酒的改局也是受了楼主（陳明仁先生）改局的启发，改局3是不成立的，目前改局1、2我自己拆解都可以正和，变化很多，一时间没法发全！

作者: sdndsx 时间: 2015-3-27 20:12
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2015-3-27 20:13 编辑

聨吟客发表于 2015-3-27 19:43
含有類似蚯蚓降龍局面應該是我所率先開創

对不起！我马上改过来。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-27 20:31

sdndsx 发表于 2015-3-27 20:12
对不起！我马上改过来。

言重了,紅酒的改局圖較簡潔且有中象,有勝過我之處,不過我的局保留了第一種變化,這變化其實也很不錯,他的局就犧牲了這個變化,所謂魚與熊掌不可得兼,我們各有千秋吧,當然還要繼續研究是否真能和局 ,紅酒兄認為我那局可和 ,我也希望當真如此

作者: sdndsx 时间: 2015-3-27 20:35

聨吟客发表于 2015-3-27 20:31
言重了,紅酒的改局圖較簡潔且有中象,有勝過我之處,不過我的局保留了第一種變化,這變化其實也很不錯,他的局 ...

确实是先生在6楼最先提出的。我已经重新编辑啦。

作者: 杨启忠 时间: 2015-3-28 09:37

yjr123 发表于 2015-3-27 13:44
本质一样

15回合，卒4进1之变至18回合黑车7平6呢

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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-28 09:52

杨启忠发表于 2015-3-28 09:37
15回合，卒4进1之变至18回合黑车7平6呢

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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-28 09:57
本帖最后由一杯红酒于 2015-3-28 10:09 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment51]正和！[/DhtmlXQ_comment51]
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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-28 10:08
本帖最后由一杯红酒于 2015-3-28 10:09 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment39]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment100]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment100]
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作者: 杨启忠 时间: 2015-3-28 10:33

一杯红酒发表于 2015-3-28 10:08

20回合，应车四平二:

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]野马操田改局1|||| 一杯红酒改拟||||这局自己拆解为正和！[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_100]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_100]
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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-28 10:38

杨启忠发表于 2015-3-28 10:33
20回合，应车四平二:

先生拆的正确！

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2015-3-28 10:50
62楼第18回合黑改走【卒9进1】可以过卒
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]野马操田改局1|||| 一杯红酒改拟||||这局自己拆解为正和！[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_100]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_100]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_3]665648585646587846567858394959495658798958548987[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_3][DhtmlXQ_comment36]||黑这样可以过卒[/DhtmlXQ_comment36]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-28 10:52
紅不樂觀

作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-28 11:04

聨吟客发表于 2015-3-28 10:52
紅不樂觀

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[DhtmlXQ_comment101]正和！[/DhtmlXQ_comment101]
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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-28 11:11

yuntao云涛发表于 2015-3-28 10:50
62楼第18回合黑改走【卒9进1】可以过卒

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]野马操田改局1|||| 一杯红酒改拟||||这局自己拆解为正和！[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43]一下参考同型变例，正和！[/DhtmlXQ_comment43]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-28 11:18

yuntao云涛发表于 2015-3-28 10:50
62楼第18回合黑改走【卒9进1】可以过卒

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-28 11:22
樓上應紅優

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2015-3-28 11:25

聨吟客发表于 2015-3-28 11:22
樓上應紅優

第19回合黑改【卒4平5】

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-28 11:30
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]野马操田改局1|||| 一杯红酒改拟||||这局自己拆解为正和！[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_100]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_100]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_47]||和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_43]||红大优[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_43]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_3]665648585646587846567858394959495658798958548987[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36]||黑这样可以过卒[/DhtmlXQ_comment36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_44]紅容易和[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_44]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_41_4]6878766678686676[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_41_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_41]||紅優[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_41]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_38_5]8586786866764845[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_38_5][DhtmlXQ_comment38]||應這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment38]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-28 11:32
67樓正確

作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-28 11:35

作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-28 11:36

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-28 11:39
45樓好像和不了,要看48樓會如何了

作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-28 11:40

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-28 11:54
呵呵呵,感謝紅酒兄,已確定我的改局能和局嗎?

黑還有大開車走法也很複雜的

作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-28 12:04
这三局各有特色，走法差别很大，有些地方都很复杂，目前我的看法是大体和局，详细的拆解只能以后有时间慢慢搞，先生这贴，你也慢慢拆出谱来，一步步发，也期望见到先生这局的详细拆解谱！

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-29 03:54
發現新變

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]野马操田改局1|||| 一杯红酒改拟||||这局自己拆解为正和！[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_42]紅長殺有規則問題[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_42]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_39_2]1325383925376668798930402947484937496848[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_39_2][DhtmlXQ_comment2_48]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_48]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_5]443240303211304011324030321385757989758589798575[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_5][DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_3]44524152545248495958384858576667[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_3][DhtmlXQ_comment3_38]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_38]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_4]5451383951414030414030404432403032113040[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_4][DhtmlXQ_comment4_40]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_48]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_48]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_7]54586646[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_7][DhtmlXQ_comment7_32]||黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44]紅長殺有規則問題[/DhtmlXQ_comment44]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_8]54556668[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_8][DhtmlXQ_comment8_32]||同主變[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_32]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_33_9]4436383936486848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_33_9][DhtmlXQ_comment9_36]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_36][DhtmlXQ_move_0_41_6]13253839253730407989484937496848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_41_6][DhtmlXQ_comment30]發現新變好像黑可勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment30]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_10]54746668[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_10][DhtmlXQ_comment46]||大陸規則判黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment46]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-29 04:01
紅也有新變,紅酒兄再研究看看

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]野马操田改局1|||| 一杯红酒改拟||||这局自己拆解为正和！[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_42]紅長殺有規則問題[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_42]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_40]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_48]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_48]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_31_7]54586646[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_31_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_32]||黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_44]紅長殺有規則問題[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_44]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_31_8]54556668[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_31_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_32]||同主變[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_32]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment9_36]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_36]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_41_6]13253839253730407989484937496848[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_41_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_30]發現新變好像黑可勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_30]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_31_10]54746668[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_31_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]||大陸規則判黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-29 04:28
也是規則問題

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[DhtmlXQ_move_1_31_8]54556668[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_31_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_32]||同主變[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_32]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_33_9]4436383936486848[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_33_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_36]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_36]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_30]發現新變好像黑可勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_30]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_31_10]54746668[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_31_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]||大陸規則判黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment29]紅也有新變,能不能和\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_11]544462524254525444543839[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_11][DhtmlXQ_comment40]||紅有規則問題[/DhtmlXQ_comment40][DhtmlXQ_comment11_36]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_36]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-29 04:38
這樣可和,但後末段變化就簡單多了

作者: 杨启忠 时间: 2015-3-29 08:52

聨吟客发表于 2015-3-29 03:54
發現新變

79#,16回合，马五退四呢？

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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_40]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_40]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_32]||黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_44]紅長殺有規則問題[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_44]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_8]54556668[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_32]||同主變[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_32]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_33_9]4436383936486848[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_33_9]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment30]發現新變好像黑可勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment30]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_10]54746668[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_10]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-29 09:12

杨启忠发表于 2015-3-29 08:52
79#,16回合，马五退四呢？

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-29 09:28
83樓局末也黑勝

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作者: yjr123 时间: 2015-3-29 09:29

聨吟客发表于 2015-3-28 11:54
呵呵呵,感謝紅酒兄,已確定我的改局能和局嗎?黑還有大開車走法也很複雜的

沒有看到對48樓疑問的回復？

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-29 09:33

yjr123 发表于 2015-3-29 09:29
沒有看到對48樓疑問的回復？

有的,＿我還沒有進一步研究,＿先搞紅酒的局

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-29 09:39
喔, 是說對48樓回覆嗎?我找找

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-3-29 09:54
尚未有人對48樓回覆,我也還未研究,來日方長,我先幫紅酒

作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-29 11:42
本帖最后由一杯红酒于 2015-3-29 11:59 编辑

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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-29 11:45
本帖最后由一杯红酒于 2015-3-29 11:58 编辑

台湾陈明仁的招法对付红酒原野马操田改局1，真是蚯蚓降龙呀！！！
野马操田改局1，也保留下来吧，可以参加江湖大骗局评比！隐藏很深的混盘！

作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-29 11:48
本帖最后由一杯红酒于 2015-3-29 11:55 编辑

红酒最新野马操田改局3，请大家拆解讨论台湾陈明仁变例！

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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-29 12:20

作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-29 12:39

yjr123 发表于 2015-3-27 16:36

48#分支太多了，是不是讨论的这个分支呢？

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作者: yjr123 时间: 2015-3-29 13:03

一杯红酒发表于 2015-3-29 12:39
48#分支太多了，是不是讨论的这个分支呢？

我有疑问都作为主变来提，不会藏在分支中。

作者: 杨启忠 时间: 2015-3-29 13:21

一杯红酒发表于 2015-3-29 11:48
红酒最新野马操田改局3，请大家拆解讨论台湾陈明仁变例！

变化实在复杂，92楼15回合黑车7进2呢?

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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-29 13:24

yjr123 发表于 2015-3-29 13:03
我有疑问都作为主变来提，不会藏在分支中。

这样走，能定论将5平4，红正应正和不？
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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-29 13:28

杨启忠发表于 2015-3-29 13:21
变化实在复杂，92楼15回合黑车7进2呢?

这样走，马五进六，红速胜！

作者: sdndsx 时间: 2015-3-29 15:32
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2015-3-29 15:51 编辑

谢谢各位朋友分享！学习啦！

下面的文字，不针对任何帖子，也不针对任何人。

对与不对，到此为止（千万别引起纠纷）。就算有此一说吧。

目前，江湖排局有青（清）盘与混盘之说。

有此一说就是：

江湖排局有素盘与荤盘之说（很有可能源自旧社会民间艺人的山东快书《武老二》）。

作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-3-29 21:23
82#，90#都不能正和呀！

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