马跳檀溪13着马5进7能和吗？

zzk132 · 发表于 2011-4-11 22:12:18

13着马5进7能和吗？ [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]8499299959999999857686419999999936509999309999999999995748999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]76705031414030408444314344485758594958484948364629474364[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]

zzk132 · 发表于 2011-4-11 22:31:34

13着黑方如果走马5进7则要败局，有许多棋谱认为走马5进7也可以弈成和局，其实是错误的。这种结论最早刊于由象棋名家裘望禹、张青忠、蒋权、朱鹤洲诠订的1988年版《蕉窗逸品》一书中，现介绍如下： [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]8499299959999999857686419999999936509999309999999999995748999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]7670503141403040844431434448575859495848494836462947436485804647483847483839484939384989707140418681414280404252384864564858898171768188585988874050524250568747565147777616771716111747111047495958423210204946585946482010484651583231101831411848413148494636585536395545313059583938585738394946393757583747454147494647493958483937414530314757313057553736454030315525363525203536203036264043[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ] 上面黑方着法中有没有可以成和局的变化？谢谢！

hzsjy · 发表于 2011-4-11 22:46:02

上楼在走完20回合时的局面是和局,请看: 带*号的着法都是正确着法(有可能有符合亚洲棋规的着法.)!

zzk132 · 发表于 2011-4-14 10:00:05

13着马5进7这样和有问题吗？ [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]8499299959999999857686419999999936509999309999999999995748999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]7670503141403040844431434448575859495848494836462947436485804647483847483839484939384989707140418681414280404252384864564858898171768171766671614050615150105141101641485859524216564241[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_1]8188585988874050524250568747565147777616771716111747111047495958423210204946585946482010484651583231101831411848413148494636585536395545313059583938585738394946393757583747454147494647493958483937414530314757313057553736454030315525363525203536203036264043[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_1][DhtmlXQ_comment46]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_37_2]6676616640505242765642415053666858596848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_37_2] [/DhtmlXQ]

dave7788 · 发表于 2011-4-14 10:12:40

很有见地！第17回合黑车9平8好，和棋。

bh22wsc · 发表于 2011-4-14 10:40:53

妙着，使棋局更加精彩。

yjr123 · 发表于 2011-4-14 15:33:30

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[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]8499299959999999857686419999999936509999309999999999995748999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]767050314140304084443143444857585949584849483646294743648580464748384748383948493938498970714041868141428040425238486456485889817176817176667161667661667670[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_1]8188585988874050524250568747565147777616771716111747111047495958423210204946585946482010484651583231101831411848413148494636585536395545313059583938585738394946393757583747454147494647493958483937414530314757313057553736454030315525363525203536203036264043[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_46]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_46]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_37_2]4050615150105141101641485859524216564241[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_37_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_39_3]40505242765642415053666858596848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_39_3][DhtmlXQ_comment39]再退车牵马，然后运炮得子。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
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dave7788 · 发表于 2011-4-14 15:47:31

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yjr123 · 发表于 2011-4-14 16:40:49

[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]8499299959999999857686419999999936509999309999999999995748999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]767050314140304084443143444857585949584849483646294743648580464748384748383948493938498970714041868141428040425238486456485889817176817176667161667661667672[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_1]8188585988874050524250568747565147777616771716111747111047495958423210204946585946482010484651583231101831411848413148494636585536395545313059583938585738394946393757583747454147494647493958483937414530314757313057553736454030315525363525203536203036264043[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_46]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_46]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_37_2]4050615150105141101641485859524216564241[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_37_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]这样呢？[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
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dave7788 · 发表于 2011-4-14 17:09:06

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667 · 发表于 2011-4-14 18:02:26

回复 9# yjr123
黑多将一吃，亚规判和。

dave7788 · 发表于 2011-4-14 18:36:05

不涉及亚规吧，正和。

667 · 发表于 2011-4-14 19:27:24

我说的接9楼

yjr123 · 发表于 2011-4-14 21:14:14

[DhtmlXQ]
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[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]8499299959999999857686419999999936509999309999999999995748999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]76705031414030408444314344485758594958484948364629474364858046474838474838394849393849897071404186814142804042528180[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_3_34_1]8188585988874050524250568747565147777616771716111747111047495958423210204946585946482010484651583231101831411848413148494636585536395545313059583938585738394946393757583747454147494647493958483937414530314757313057553736454030315525363525203536203036264043[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_34_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_46]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_46]
[DhtmlXQ_move_3_37_2]4050615150105141101641485859524216564241[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_37_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_39]这样呢？[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_39]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_3]38486456485889817176817176667161667661667672[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29]保存实力，会有机会吗？[/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2011-4-14 21:18:47

黑棋是否有一個黑象?

zzk132 · 发表于 2011-4-20 14:30:54

余老师：看来马5进7演变下来结论是红优？以下成为很复杂的散手局面，估计无人再会研究下去？

淡雨随风 · 发表于 2013-4-26 23:07:06

[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]8499299959999999857686419999999936509999309999999999995748999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]76705031414030408444314344485758594958484948364629474364858046474838474838394849393849897071404186814142804042528180[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_3_34_1]8188585988874050524250568747565147777616771716111747111047495958423210204946585946482010484651583231101831411848413148494636585536395545313059583938585738394946393757583747454147494647493958483937414530314757313057553736454030315525363525203536203036264043[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_34_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_46]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_46]
[DhtmlXQ_move_3_37_2]4050615150105141101641485859524216564241[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_37_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_39]这样呢？[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_39]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_3]3848645648588981717681717666716166766166767266767262767262677278585978774047525147575141[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29]保存实力，会有机会吗？[/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
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[/DhtmlXQ]黑棋涉嫌长捉，否则和棋

淡雨随风 · 发表于 2013-4-28 12:36:35

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[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]7071404186814142804042523848645648588781717681717666716166766166767266767262767858597872626772774047525147575141[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10]一捉[/DhtmlXQ_comment10][DhtmlXQ_comment12]2捉[/DhtmlXQ_comment12][DhtmlXQ_comment14]3捉[/DhtmlXQ_comment14][DhtmlXQ_comment16]4捉[/DhtmlXQ_comment16][DhtmlXQ_comment18]5捉[/DhtmlXQ_comment18][DhtmlXQ_comment22]6捉[/DhtmlXQ_comment22][DhtmlXQ_comment24]7捉[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
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