七子二炮

dave7788

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yjr123

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[DhtmlXQ_title]七子二炮（红先和）[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_open]A00 非常见开局[/DhtmlXQ_open]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_49]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_49]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_11]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_11]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_38]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_38]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_32]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_32]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment6_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_15]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_10_7]40308981[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_10_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_11]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_11]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_21]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_21]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment9_20]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]这样会有什么变化？[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
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dave7788

[/quote] 车6平7好厉害！

zhaodi

著名排局家裘望禹与已故排局研究家瞿问秋于1987年合著的《七子百局谱》第75局有一则局名为“熏风拂柳”的图势与“七子二炮”局基本相同，仅仅比“七子二炮”的黑方中卒退后一步（黑车亦退后一格，但退与不退，作用一样）

余兄的车6平7变化，原谱未有，变化下去应是黑胜。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]“七子二炮”，结果可以弈成黑胜，不符合江湖排局通常为和局的惯例。著名排局家裘望禹与已故排局研究家瞿问秋于1987年合著的《七子百局谱》第75局有一则局名为“熏风拂柳”的图势与“七子二炮”局基本相同，仅仅比“七子二炮”的黑方中卒退后一步（黑车亦退后一格，但退与不退，作用一样）然而正是这步退卒，造成了黑势减弱，结果成为和局||||本局在120局油印本中名《分秋》。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1]红方另有三种变化，皆红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_34]红方幸和[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_37]红方幸和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_33]红方幸和[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_21]以后亦同，红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_5]如误走炮三平五则卒3进1，反成黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_6]如車6退5，则兵五进一将6进1，車一进八，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_7]以下着法同[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_7]
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udb

车6平7的变化是怎样的呢？

dave7788

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dave7788

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dave7788

10月下旬在沈阳有一伙摆棋摊的，摊主是个女的，手里拿着一叠百元钞票。她声称，这棋红胜，压二百赢五百；压三百赢八百——。有几个男的（棋托）上阵都赢了。一老者上当输钱后，棋托怂恿老者再下可以赢回来。见老者在犹豫，摊主就说：没人上就换棋了。棋托不让换，鼓动老者上。老者不表态，摊主又要换棋。棋托激动的说，人家输了钱，你还不给机会找回来呀？！又对老者说：咱俩拿钱，一人一半，赢了平分。老者可能看出门道了，最终没有再受骗。 辽宁电视台《新北方》频道播出了记者的调查，这伙摆棋的已有一段时间了，四五个棋托，骗了不少人。

dave7788

网络侠常有神来之着，2楼车6平7既是其一。我增兵卒试图将此局修改成和棋，走法上是消除车6平7；炮三平七，车7平3；黑最后这一步。

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10月下旬在沈阳有一伙摆棋摊的，摊主是个女的，手里拿着一叠百元钞票。她声称，这棋红胜，压二百赢五 ...[/quote] 好长时间没有遇到摆棋摊的，但在今年国庆节这天，我到街上去办一件事，看见一伙人摆棋摊的，摊主是个中年男子，年纪应该比我轻。每局棋300元人民币，将常见江湖棋局说成红必胜，引诱不知江湖险恶的人。听当地一位青年说，前几天他们一伙每天均有好几千收入。也许还有点正义感，不拍得罪人，就对想挑战的人说了：“即使鑫鑫（赵特大）来下，也是和棋”。摊主看我断了他们财路，想拖我下水，叫我与他下，旁观者也凑热闹，尤其他的同伙更起劲，他的同伙也有一个当地人。我说”在这里不下，要么去宾馆一对一。“后来他威胁我，我就跟他理论起来，说心里话这在当地，他们设局骗人，理论起来谁怕谁。后来他的一位同伙总算有点头脑，就假扮城管把他带走，此事到此了结。