棋局探讨中原纵兵

zhang48129 · 发表于 2014-9-12 09:00:49

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小橘梅 · 发表于 2014-9-12 16:00:49

有道理，24回合胜！

象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-9-12 19:01:49

有道理，也可以说22回合胜，后面就不用走了。

杨启忠 · 发表于 2014-9-16 20:47:03

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象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-9-17 20:34:35

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杨启忠 · 发表于 2014-9-20 10:01:25

[/quote] 嗯，主要问题还是协杀差，这样可否： [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9948873937996968895944835403512110742041303260040673452655846343[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]中原纵兵[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]2131304031413241514140505464556568566555567755657758655558465565485665555675556544546555547455656454655554445565745465555404556544546555546455650454655554445565414050517563515244546555548455656454655554445565635573535563655584545303547455656355524244434241744420424333426455436042436241516254655554425565425465555462556544546555540455654658655558775565775665555635556562430343354351410444644243624151625445555442553542635152635552425543425243645251647251415949413144343141694735454765453572534140534540508959[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment127]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment127] [/DhtmlXQ]

象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-9-20 11:01:23

嗯，主要问题还是协杀差，这样可否：[/quote] 杀力还不太够。车移到河口怎样？能增加回合。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9948873937996968895944835403512115742041303260170773450455846343[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]中原纵兵[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]213130403141324151414050546455656856455556775545775845555846554544546555547455656454655554445565745465555404556548566555567555654454655554645565045445555444554541405051756351524454455554845535645435555444554584544555547455456355735355634555745453035484554563555242444342418444604243334264554320424362415162546555544255654254455554625545465845555877553577563555563555454454655554245565354303436243514124446442436241516254455554425535426351526355524255434252436452516472514159494131443431416947354547654555344415453343454443424140424140504151[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_3_122_1]453572534140534540508959[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_122_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_3_56_2]4555[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_56_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_3]65555677556577586555584655654856655556755565445465555474556564546555544455657454655554045565445465555464556504546555544455654140505175635152445465555484556564546555544455656355735355636555845453035474556563555242444342417444204243334264554360424362415162546555544255654254655554625565445465555404556546586555587755657756655556355565624303433543514104446442436241516254455554425535426351526355524255434252436452516472514159494131443431416947354547654555344415453343454443424140424140504151[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_3] [/DhtmlXQ]

杨启忠 · 发表于 2014-9-20 11:25:37

杀力还不太够。车移到河口怎样？能增加回合。[/quote] 嗯，很好。主要体现马炮兵的协同作战，红车仅仅起协杀作用。一路边相似可删去？

象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-9-20 11:33:05

嗯，很好。主要体现马炮兵的协同作战，红车仅仅起协杀作用。一路边相似可删去？[/quote] 杀力是否足够，还不能确定，留着一路相好一些。

象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-9-20 11:41:53

最好能用周软验证一下，似乎还能速胜两回合： [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9948873937996968895944835403512115742041303260170773450455846343[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]中原纵兵[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]杨启忠[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]21313040314132415141405054645565685665555677556577586555584655654856655556755565445465555474556564546555544455657454655554045565445465555464556504546555544455654140505175635152445465555484556564546555544455656355735355636555845453035474556563555242444342417444204243334264554360424362415162546555544255654254655554625565445465555404556546586555587755657756655556355565624303433543514104446442436241516254455554425535426351526355524255434252436452516472514159494131443431416947354547654555344415453343454443424140424140504151[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_4]514132413141405054645565445445555474554564544555544455457454655554045565445465555464556504546555544455654856455556775545775865555846556568564555567555454140505175635152445445555484554564544555544455456355735355636555845453035484556563555242444342418444204243334220554360424362415162546555544255654254655554625565445465555424556546584555587755357756355556355545354303436243514124442042436241516254455554425535426351415949413144343141694735454725453563444151895935554463515259556555495955653454655554445545635552423343[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_122_1]453572534140534540508959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_122_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_56_2]4555[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_56_2] [/DhtmlXQ]

象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-9-20 11:55:23

对于几十回合的连照杀局，强软应该也没有问题。

杨启忠 · 发表于 2014-9-20 13:05:44

象棋法官发表于 2014-9-20 11:55
对于几十回合的连照杀局，强软应该也没有问题。

这局棋周软似乎无能为力，或许是我的版本较低。

杨启忠 · 发表于 2014-9-20 16:17:06

象棋法官发表于 2014-9-20 11:55
对于几十回合的连照杀局，强软应该也没有问题。

10#不好，不能胜。第43回合黑改炮5平6，再平4路，红就不行了。难怪周软无法跑出。

象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-9-20 17:12:03

杨启忠发表于 2014-9-20 16:17
10#不好，不能胜。第43回合黑改炮5平6，再平4路，红就不行了。难怪周软无法跑出。

只好这样了，看看杀力够不够？
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杨启忠 · 发表于 2014-9-21 08:48:01

象棋法官发表于 2014-9-20 17:12
只好这样了，看看杀力够不够？

也可，我还有一个方案，可达到70回合，这样行不?

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象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-9-21 08:55:26

车放底线，我还是担心杀不够，炮可以借叫将挡车。

杨启忠 · 发表于 2014-9-21 09:24:36

象棋法官发表于 2014-9-21 08:55
车放底线，我还是担心杀不够，炮可以借叫将挡车。

与14#综合一下，这样

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象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-9-21 09:50:47

我觉得成立，周软还是测不出来。

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