快来参与隔河救主的一路新变化研究

sdndsx · 发表于 2007-10-27 12:49:00

隔河救主的原图式，现有的资料都认为是和棋。我认为：还必须弄清一路变化，那就是红方七路后兵七进一之后，迫使黑将登上宫顶，结果如何？敬请棋界高明指教。

sdndsx · 发表于 2009-1-23 14:46:21

致歉！实在对不起大家！一年前，我在朋友家发了这个帖子，当时我还不会帖棋图，后来，我办公室的电脑是局域网，怎么也链接不到华工网，只好贴到了大师网，近几天，突然发现能上华工网了。现将棋图贴上。

sdndsx · 发表于 2009-1-23 14:52:24

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sdndsx · 发表于 2009-1-23 15:04:31

隔河救主局有好多棋谱都有介绍，但第6回合后兵进一之后，迫使黑将登上宫顶，结果如何？没有一本棋谱涉及，即便证明是劣着，也是对该局着法的补充。我对这一变化进行过解拆，初步认为：第6回合后兵进一并非劣着，因为此时红袍在底线，此兵即可当炮架，又可以实现小海底捞月。现将心得贴上，不一定正确，也可能另有变化，请各位大家赐教。

sdndsx · 发表于 2009-1-23 15:07:40

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sdndsx · 发表于 2009-1-23 15:13:50

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sdndsx · 发表于 2009-1-23 15:18:54

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sdndsx · 发表于 2009-1-23 15:21:34

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zhiqihuang · 发表于 2009-1-24 11:57:09

进兵变化比较复杂的变化是这样:
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sdndsx · 发表于 2014-9-18 13:58:37

zhiqihuang 发表于 2009-1-24 11:57
进兵变化比较复杂的变化是这样:

红方接走车二退一可以取胜啊！
对于这路变化，我陆陆续续地解拆了好几年，我的体会是：与原着法有很大的差异，在黑方退炮的变化中，红方只有一路和法。我试着通过改图，迫使红高兵走成低兵为必走之着，都没有成功，恳请大家多加指教！谢谢！最近改了一局，贴在大师网上，网友指出是黑胜，我还没来得及验证。

sdndsx · 发表于 2014-9-18 14:02:53

我试着通过改图，迫使红高兵走成低兵为必走之着，都没有成功，恳请大家多加指教！谢谢！最近改了一局，贴在大师网上，网友指出是黑胜，我还没来得及验证。

667 · 发表于 2014-9-18 14:20:34

欢迎时鑫老师常来华工象棋论坛！

sdndsx · 发表于 2014-9-18 16:36:36

敬请大家看看结果如何，谢谢！

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柒匹狼 · 发表于 2014-9-18 16:38:10

zhiqihuang 发表于 2009-1-24 11:57
进兵变化比较复杂的变化是这样:

接走第11回合红是应该车二退一？还是炮三退三？

sdndsx · 发表于 2014-9-18 16:45:38

我曾经还这样摆过，根本就不成立，太可笑了！

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sdndsx · 发表于 2014-9-18 16:49:08

柒匹狼发表于 2014-9-18 16:38
接走第11回合红是应该车二退一？还是炮三退三？

欢迎您的光临！！
车二退一

柒匹狼 · 发表于 2014-9-18 16:54:34

sdndsx 发表于 2014-9-18 16:49
欢迎您的光临！！
车二退一

车二退一红胜黑胜

聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-9-18 20:48:04

sdndsx 发表于 2014-9-18 13:58
红方接走车二退一可以取胜啊！
对于这路变化，我陆陆续续地解拆了好几年，我的体会是：与原着法有很大的 ...

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象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-9-18 20:59:14

sdndsx 发表于 2014-9-18 13:58
红方接走车二退一可以取胜啊！
对于这路变化，我陆陆续续地解拆了好几年，我的体会是：与原着法有很大的 ...

正好相反，是黑胜。

象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-9-18 21:01:05

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-9-18 21:19:52

呵呵, 我漏了這麼簡單的棋

柒匹狼 · 发表于 2014-9-18 21:22:26

聨吟客发表于 2014-9-18 20:48

你又在灌水了

其实红进兵此变可以更快成和

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-9-18 21:25:33

柒匹狼发表于 2014-9-18 21:22
你又在灌水了

其实红进兵此变可以更快成和

我是走錯不是灌水, 呵呵呵

柒匹狼 · 发表于 2014-9-18 21:26:10

聨吟客发表于 2014-9-18 21:25
我是走錯不是灌水, 呵呵呵

反正我不信

柒匹狼 · 发表于 2014-9-18 21:29:40

就是不知道黑动将算不算长杀犯不犯规

聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-9-18 21:30:53

柒匹狼发表于 2014-9-18 21:22
你又在灌水了

其实红进兵此变可以更快成和

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柒匹狼 · 发表于 2014-9-18 21:35:04

聨吟客发表于 2014-9-18 21:30

红方还是抽不到车

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柒匹狼 · 发表于 2014-9-18 21:37:57

可以和净

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-9-18 21:42:37

嗯 ,11回合進卒會如何

柒匹狼 · 发表于 2014-9-18 21:44:26

聨吟客发表于 2014-9-18 21:42
嗯 ,11回合進卒會如何

进卒或平卒都是黑方被动求和不易红方主动

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