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[江湖局研究] 鷹隼盤空改局

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发表于 2014-10-20 19:32:07 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]8499999959992999858676999999994199999999309902503699999999995748[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]鷹隼盤空改局1 [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark]张云川[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]会心斋[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_owner]会心斋[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]||以前在臺北市中華路看到的[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [/DhtmlXQ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-10-20 19:36:56 | 只看该作者
[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]8499999959992999858676999999994199999999309924503699999999065748[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]鷹隼盤空改局2 [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark]张云川[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]会心斋[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_owner]会心斋[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]以前廣東象棋網的人說在越南看到的[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [/DhtmlXQ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-10-20 19:41:59 | 只看该作者
好像都很複雜,以前的討論不完整,現在再來一遍
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发表于 2014-10-20 20:29:50 | 只看该作者
[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]8499999959992999858676999999994199999999309924503699999999065748[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]鷹隼盤空改局2 [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark]张云川[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]会心斋[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_owner]会心斋[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]以前廣東象棋網的人說在越南看到的[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]767050314140304084443143444857585949584849483646294743627079464748580616856562746575746275554746868762745575745379784656875756667555666858596869595853655545403057376968585965574546683878683837461657365949373816103031106038484939314160673644[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
5#
发表于 2014-10-20 20:43:49 | 只看该作者
4楼最后的局面黑胜定。
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发表于 2014-10-20 20:45:18 | 只看该作者
先做个搬运工: [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]8599999959992999848676999999994136502499309999999999990648579999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2013-11-16 18:23:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2013-11-16 18:23:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]大潭溪 (多边卒的马跳潭溪)[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]7670503141403040844431434448575859495848494836462947436485654647485847485859484959584946868764456555452655504041505141427040467687477678585978795958264740477949476749485859060767600708604048385154424154444131442408182444182844433878594978794948283848587970585731304344[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_12_15_1]707846474858474686874656875762548587061687671626585954357848262757585636484936396747403047453516[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_15_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_12_15_3]85804647485847485859404170760607[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_15_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_12_15_8]7079464748584748585748497978494757584777[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_15_8] 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[DhtmlXQ_group]散局[/DhtmlXQ_group] [DhtmlXQ_remark]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_hits]47[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_sortid]7103650[/DhtmlXQ_sortid] [DhtmlXQ_owner]桑莫喜[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_oldowner]桑莫喜[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]据说有人在越南看到。||||本局是在《湖涯集》第14 局“马跳檀溪”的棋图中增加黑方边卒而成的,比原局深奥得多。||||||这局的结论尚不能定,还在讨论研究中[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_comment11_14]这是个新变化[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment23_54]红难和[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_54] [DhtmlXQ_comment13_1]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment14_5]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment15_21]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_21] [DhtmlXQ_comment16_7]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_28]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment18_56]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_56] [DhtmlXQ_comment19_44]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_44] [DhtmlXQ_comment20_52]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_52] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_27]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_27] [DhtmlXQ_comment22_33]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_33] [DhtmlXQ_comment14]这是非常复杂的一变[/DhtmlXQ_comment14] [DhtmlXQ_comment11_15]hanghang提供的着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_15] [DhtmlXQ_comment24_47]这样反而红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_47] [DhtmlXQ_comment67]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment67] [DhtmlXQ_comment26_28]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment25_28]如误走车8平5则炮九平五红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment25_32]不变和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_32] [DhtmlXQ_comment12_22]以下车炮对车马象和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_22] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_22]复杂局面[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_22] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_15]这样把局势复杂化了[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_15] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_24]这和第8回合直接走炮二退八的效果相同[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_15]这和炮二退八的效果相同[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_15] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]红必丢相且阵型不佳,处于下风[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]这样可能不好[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_15] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_22]这样速和了[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_22] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_36]红无法阻挡黑车马攻势,黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_23]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_23] [DhtmlXQ_comment27_32]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_32] [DhtmlXQ_comment27_25]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment12_14]这变也复杂,不易对付[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment12_15]这样可能比较简明, 但红明显一直处于下风[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_15] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]因红要打车,所以黑必须立即解套。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_14]这是劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_25]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment29_21]这样黑白白让红调整了位置,显然不合算[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_21] [DhtmlXQ_comment29_25]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_15]强硬派的走法,认为黑边卒不足为虑,企图保留子力优势。实际变化红方不但没有优势,求和也难。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_15] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]至此红求和十分困难。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_36] [/DhtmlXQ]
7#
发表于 2014-10-20 21:29:27 | 只看该作者
先做个搬运工:[/quote] 黑11回合这样走. 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[DhtmlXQ_group]散局[/DhtmlXQ_group] [DhtmlXQ_remark]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_hits]47[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_sortid]7103650[/DhtmlXQ_sortid] [DhtmlXQ_owner]桑莫喜[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_oldowner]桑莫喜[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]据说有人在越南看到。||||本局是在《湖涯集》第14 局“马跳檀溪”的棋图中增加黑方边卒而成的,比原局深奥得多。||||||这局的结论尚不能定,还在讨论研究中[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_comment11_14]这是个新变化[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment23_54]红难和[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_54] [DhtmlXQ_comment13_1]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment14_5]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment15_21]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_21] [DhtmlXQ_comment16_7]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_28]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment18_56]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_56] [DhtmlXQ_comment19_44]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_44] [DhtmlXQ_comment20_52]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_52] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_27]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_27] [DhtmlXQ_comment22_33]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_33] [DhtmlXQ_comment14]这是非常复杂的一变[/DhtmlXQ_comment14] [DhtmlXQ_comment11_15]hanghang提供的着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_15] [DhtmlXQ_comment24_47]这样反而红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_47] [DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67] [DhtmlXQ_comment26_28]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment25_28]如误走车8平5则炮九平五红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment25_32]不变和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_32] [DhtmlXQ_comment12_22]以下车炮对车马象和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_22] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_22]复杂局面[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_22] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_15]这样把局势复杂化了[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_15] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_24]这和第8回合直接走炮二退八的效果相同[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_15]这和炮二退八的效果相同[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_15] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]红必丢相且阵型不佳,处于下风[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]这样可能不好[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_15] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_22]这样速和了[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_22] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_36]红无法阻挡黑车马攻势,黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_23]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_23] [DhtmlXQ_comment27_32]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_32] [DhtmlXQ_comment27_25]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment12_14]这变也复杂,不易对付[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment12_15]这样可能比较简明, 但红明显一直处于下风[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_15] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]因红要打车,所以黑必须立即解套。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_14]这是劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_25]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment29_21]这样黑白白让红调整了位置,显然不合算[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_21] [DhtmlXQ_comment29_25]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_15]强硬派的走法,认为黑边卒不足为虑,企图保留子力优势。实际变化红方不但没有优势,求和也难。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_15] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]至此红求和十分困难。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_36] [/DhtmlXQ]
8#
发表于 2014-10-20 22:18:24 | 只看该作者
9#
发表于 2014-10-20 22:24:50 | 只看该作者
这局第7回合黑走 马5退7后 红基本无法谋和 车马象对车炮 菜鸟的残局库已经有结论红和不了
10#
发表于 2014-10-20 22:30:17 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_15]这和炮二退八的效果相同[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_15] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]红必丢相且阵型不佳,处于下风[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]这样可能不好[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_15] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_22]这样速和了[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_22] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_36]红无法阻挡黑车马攻势,黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_23]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_23] [DhtmlXQ_comment27_32]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_32] [DhtmlXQ_comment27_25]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment14]这变也复杂,不易对付[/DhtmlXQ_comment14] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_15]这样可能比较简明, 但红明显一直处于下风[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_15] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]因红要打车,所以黑必须立即解套。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_14]这是劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_25]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment29_21]这样黑白白让红调整了位置,显然不合算[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_21] [DhtmlXQ_comment29_25]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_15]强硬派的走法,认为黑边卒不足为虑,企图保留子力优势。实际变化红方不但没有优势,求和也难。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_15] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_36]至此红求和十分困难。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment26]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment26] 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11#
发表于 2014-10-20 22:50:28 | 只看该作者
红先黑胜,怎么走都是这结局,最近怎么都是改局,没有原创的了吗?
12#
发表于 2014-10-20 22:57:02 | 只看该作者
八阵图 里面的棋局都是原创!请拆解几局。
13#
发表于 2014-10-20 22:59:03 | 只看该作者
红先黑胜,怎么走都是这结局,最近怎么都是改局,没有原创的了吗?[/quote] 现在的江湖类残局 基本都是因势因图修改 上哪找那么多原创去 这可要比连照排局什么的费劲多了 又要符合江湖棋局特色 又要收尾反复多变还要是和局 哪那么好做啊
14#
发表于 2014-10-20 23:01:05 | 只看该作者
七匹狼,你应该搞个残局,北方七匹狼局。
15#
发表于 2014-10-20 23:04:26 | 只看该作者
菜鸟来玩 发表于 2014-10-20 23:01
七匹狼,你应该搞个残局,北方七匹狼局。

你看我像是有创作细胞的人吗 学还学不明白呢去搞创作这是要作死的节奏
16#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-10-20 23:06:31 | 只看该作者
菜鸟来玩 发表于 2014-10-20 22:50
红先黑胜,怎么走都是这结局,最近怎么都是改局,没有原创的了吗?

1樓的沒有添卒,只是改象位,也黑勝嗎?
17#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-10-20 23:08:24 | 只看该作者
江湖棋人的改局也是要研究一下的嘛
18#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-10-20 23:12:26 | 只看该作者
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19#
发表于 2014-10-20 23:32:43 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 菜鸟来玩 于 2014-10-20 23:42 编辑

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20#
发表于 2014-10-20 23:33:52 | 只看该作者
另外18楼是和棋
21#
发表于 2014-10-20 23:38:58 | 只看该作者
菜鸟来玩 发表于 2014-10-20 23:32


咱俩怎么闹都行 可别把这些长辈们牵扯进来 别弄不愉快了 就不好了

把局名改了吧
22#
发表于 2014-10-20 23:49:34 | 只看该作者
18楼和棋用什么棋规?
23#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-10-21 17:16:19 | 只看该作者
1樓亞規可和,大陸規則我還不確定,大家有何看法呢?
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24#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-10-21 17:19:42 | 只看该作者
象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-20 23:49
18楼和棋用什么棋规?

呵呵呵,有誰知道越南的規則是如何的呢?
25#
发表于 2014-10-21 17:29:49 | 只看该作者
聨吟客 发表于 2014-10-21 17:19
呵呵呵,有誰知道越南的規則是如何的呢?

不是使用亚规?
26#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-10-21 17:32:44 | 只看该作者
象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-21 17:29
不是使用亚规?

這個我不知道 呀
27#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-10-21 22:18:23 | 只看该作者
菜鸟来玩 发表于 2014-10-20 23:33
另外18楼是和棋

如果18樓和局,那此局(2樓  )黑方到底如何取勝呢 ?
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