古谱诠正七贤过关又称赤壁星稀

象棋天使 · 发表于 2014-12-16 22:30:19

已故象棋名家李浭编著的《象棋名谱名局赏析》P60-61百变象棋谱之“七贤过关”原谱为和局，1984年已故象棋名家杨明忠提出此局黑胜论点，并拟出了和局棋势（即把3·6位卒换成七·五位相，把三·一位相换成三·一位马，同时把五·六位炮后移至五·四位。）然而，我经过仔细、反复研究，认为这两局均为红胜。红方布子：五·一帅、四·一仕、三·一相、五·二仕、五·三相、五·六炮、八·六兵、九·六马、八·八车、八·九车、二·九兵、九·十炮；黑方布子：4·1将、6·1士、7·1象、5·2士、5·3象、3·6卒、4·9卒、6·9卒、7·9车、3·10炮、8·10炮。这两局红胜招法如下：1、前车进一象5退3；2、前车平七将4进1；3、车八进一将4进1；4、车七退二！炮3退7；5、炮九退二炮3退1；6、马九进八炮3进1；7、马八退七！炮3进1；8、车八退一将4退1；9、马七进五象7进5；10、车八进一将4退1；11、马五进七将4平5；12、车八进一红方绝杀！注：第一回合黑方如另走将4进1；后车进一将4进1；后车平六将4退1；马九进八将4进1；炮九退二绝杀！第九回合如另走将4退1；车八退二炮3退3；车八平七绝杀！第十回合如另走将4进1；马五进七绝杀！ [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]1199695949484704124400999999711499996050304142996829799999253858[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]七賢過關[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]将族[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_owner]将族[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]11104220102030311211313220222922000222210412212212242223111232312443604212113130432230401110[/DhtmlXQ_movelist][DhtmlXQ_comment23]红方绝杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment23] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_1]30311211313211313231041231320002[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_1][DhtmlXQ_comment1_9]绝杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_9] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_2]3130121423201424[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_2][DhtmlXQ_comment2_21]绝杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_21] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_3]31324322[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_3][DhtmlXQ_comment3_21]绝杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_21] [/DhtmlXQ]

聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-12-17 01:36:07

對1樓走法的詮正

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★星海★ · 发表于 2014-12-17 13:52:02

杨明忠改局红胜。原局黑优，另有复杂变化，说是黑胜或是红胜都结论过早。

聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-12-17 14:27:39

這局竹香齋叫作赤壁星稀

1804年版

聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-12-17 15:12:49

一起研討

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2521368 · 发表于 2014-12-17 15:31:22

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-12-17 20:29:35

紅方有比5樓更好的走法,我只是對1樓黑方走法的修正,查閱棋譜,5樓這個變化早在蔣.朱.裘三人竹譜詮注本中就有了　

聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-12-21 01:58:45

修改局的原譜走法

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-12-22 00:06:21

星海說紅勝,是否這樣紅優黑難和呢?

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-12-22 00:20:10

我曾經把楊先生改局的高相再還原为卒,又成了紅方不好走,但還未確定結論,大家認為呢?

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-12-22 02:25:14

樓上可能仍紅優,再把底馬還原为相,看看

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-12-22 02:40:15

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2014-12-22 03:10 编辑

好像黑優了
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-12-22 02:53:42

3路卒再後退一步,這個改局應該平穩,但不知有沒有與他人撞局?

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-12-22 08:04:49

仍吃相變化複雜

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_31]||可能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_31]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_2]4606323806001424[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_2][DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_1]4616323816143835[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_31]||可能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36][DhtmlXQ_comment3_32]![/DhtmlXQ_comment3_32]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_3]14244707323860823830070930392060[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_3][DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_4]142460823830070930392060[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_4][DhtmlXQ_comment32]||變化複雜[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_5]47171424608200061719383919160607[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_30_5][DhtmlXQ_comment7_40]可能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_40]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_34_6]20600666[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_34_6][DhtmlXQ_comment6_35]||紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_35]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_37_7]3937160637474151[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_37_7][DhtmlXQ_comment5_37]紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_36_8]19394939[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_36_8][DhtmlXQ_comment8_37]紅有雙士應可勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_37][DhtmlXQ_comment28]仍吃相變化較複雜[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
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象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-12-22 08:52:53

聨吟客发表于 2014-12-22 08:04
仍吃相變化複雜

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_31]||可能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_31]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_9_28_1]4616323816143835[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_28_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_31]||可能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_32]![/DhtmlXQ_comment3_32]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_29_3]14244707323860823830070930392060[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_29_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_31_4]142460823830070930392060[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_31_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_32]||變化複雜[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_32]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_30_5]47171424608200061719383919160607[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_30_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_40]可能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_40]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_34_6]20600666[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_34_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_35]||紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_35]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_37_7]3937160637474151[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_37_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_37]紅稍優[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_36_8]19394939[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_36_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_37]紅有雙士應可勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_28]仍吃相變化較複雜[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_9]12202920405051415058616958786966787966467971414271724241723246473238470700602425[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_9]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-12-22 11:08:20

多謝法官指正

,15樓和不和得了?

象棋天使 · 发表于 2014-12-22 18:10:18

聨吟客发表于 2014-12-22 11:08
多謝法官指正,15樓和不和得了?

谢谢各位指教！

聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-12-22 19:04:03

現在變成要問12樓和不和得了?

菜鸟来玩 · 发表于 2014-12-23 00:15:24

12楼黑胜，15楼红胜

聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-12-23 10:58:30

多謝菜鳥,能否列出一種12樓黑勝主變看看?

菜鸟来玩 · 发表于 2014-12-23 11:25:54

聨吟客发表于 2014-12-23 10:58
多謝菜鳥,能否列出一種12樓黑勝主變看看?

比较复杂。容我慢慢计算，好久不见

聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-12-28 17:20:42

又改了一局,原本以為可以按照楊先生走法輕鬆和局,但又發現一種複雜變化,紅能否和局還須研究,大家認為呢?

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_30]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_30]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_1]6169587869667879664679714142717242417232460632380600[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]根據楊明忠先生修改局再添黑馬,不知是否能和局 \u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment0][DhtmlXQ_comment18]發現升車暫不急於吃馬 ,準備下一手平1路進攻,紅似不容易應付\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment18]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-12-28 17:38:32

不對,22樓好像连殺局

,呵呵呵

聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-12-28 17:50:42

又亂了,22樓有無连殺或紅有無更好走法我搞不清楚,各位大俠幫忙看看吧

桑莫喜 · 发表于 2014-12-28 18:41:42

陈先生,加一9.5位红兵试试.

桑莫喜 · 发表于 2014-12-28 19:02:06

聨吟客发表于 2014-12-28 17:20
又改了一局,原本以為可以按照楊先生走法輕鬆和局,但又發現一種複雜變化,紅能否和局還須研究,大家認為呢?
...

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[DhtmlXQ_movelist]11103220102030311211313211313231041231320002[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_30]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_30]
[DhtmlXQ_move_2_18_1]6169587869667879664679714142717242417232460632380600[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_18_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]根據楊明忠先生修改局再添黑馬,不知是否能和局 \u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]發現升車暫不急於吃馬 ,準備下一手平1路進攻,紅似不容易應付\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-12-28 21:40:34

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2014-12-29 09:26 编辑

感謝桑兄,黑退象變化也敗,真的是連殺局

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[DhtmlXQ_title]七賢過關陳明仁修改局[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_30]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_30]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]根據楊明忠先生修改局再添黑馬,不知是否能和局 \u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]發現升車暫不急於吃馬 ,準備下一手平1路進攻,紅似不容易應付\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_2]這樣呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_2]
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一杯红酒 · 发表于 2014-12-28 23:49:45

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[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-12-29 09:35:52

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-12-29 10:00:55

再改圖,變化依然複雜

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[DhtmlXQ_move_5_23_6]48392030[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_23_6][DhtmlXQ_comment5_23]能不能和\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_23][DhtmlXQ_comment28]不知道能不能和\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment28][DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_5]63030939[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_5]
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