孑孓戏水杨启忠拟局

杨启忠 · 发表于 2016-10-18 12:11:12

来则简单的，请棋友们轻松玩玩：

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魔帝大人 · 发表于 2016-10-18 12:44:09

先脱帽子：

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橘中搜秘 · 发表于 2016-10-18 17:50:08

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邢春波 · 发表于 2016-10-18 21:14:07

橘中搜秘发表于 2016-10-18 17:50

删掉一相，不能赢吧。

chessbug · 发表于 2016-10-20 00:29:28

单相和，双相胜。
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杨启忠 · 发表于 2016-10-20 17:12:53

本帖最后由杨启忠于 2016-10-20 19:03 编辑

嗯！大家玩的不错。上传完整着法，请指正：

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橘中搜秘 · 发表于 2016-10-20 17:41:27

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杨启忠 · 发表于 2016-10-20 19:06:51

橘中搜秘发表于 2016-10-20 17:41

谢谢指正，已在6#完善

橘中搜秘 · 发表于 2016-10-20 19:53:54

再完善
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杨启忠 · 发表于 2016-10-21 07:09:23

橘中搜秘发表于 2016-10-20 19:53
再完善

楼上17回黑象7退5，也是28回红胜。

橘中搜秘 · 发表于 2016-10-21 11:05:31

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杨启忠 · 发表于 2016-10-23 09:33:19

橘中搜秘发表于 2016-10-21 11:05

嗯，谢谢橘中搜秘棋友指正，14回士5进6之变，我漏算了其中有一个红帅可平中的变化。在整理一下，棋友们看看还有不足否：

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-10-23 09:52:58

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2016-10-23 09:54 编辑

增兩只底卒如何

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-10-23 09:56:38

不知是否都能勝?呵呵呵......

杨启忠 · 发表于 2016-10-23 09:59:05

聨吟客发表于 2016-10-23 09:52
增兩只底卒如何

那样的话，估计很合陈兄的口味，和棋

聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-10-23 10:06:23

不急, 研究看看能否消滅底卒

杨启忠 · 发表于 2016-10-23 10:10:40

聨吟客发表于 2016-10-23 10:06
不急, 研究看看能否消滅底卒

只放一枚底卒即可。

聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-10-23 10:19:02

只放一卒有點畫蛇添足, 所以兩卒才有意思, 不論是勝或和

杨启忠 · 发表于 2016-10-23 10:24:04

也是和棋啊

聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-10-23 10:33:06

炮雙相運用是否能消滅底卒呢

杨启忠 · 发表于 2016-10-23 11:09:32

灭卒可以，但红炮位走差，黑士可转移到6路，再出将，和棋

聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-10-23 12:27:25

假設走成這樣

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-10-23 12:44:58

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橘中搜秘 · 发表于 2016-10-23 13:59:59

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-10-23 23:49:11

可能楊兄是對的, 先棄卒可保雙象, 黑似能和局
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杨启忠 · 发表于 2016-10-24 09:57:39

聨吟客发表于 2016-10-23 23:49
可能楊兄是對的, 先棄卒可保雙象, 黑似能和局

对，就是这个意思：保留双象即和。

桑莫喜 · 发表于 2016-10-24 11:54:43

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桑莫喜 · 发表于 2016-10-24 12:09:16

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杨启忠 · 发表于 2016-10-24 19:04:46

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