此局敬请讨论和改进提高。谢谢！

sdndsx · 发表于 2016-12-1 07:39:37

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迟暮寒士 · 发表于 2016-12-1 23:16:34

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这局棋一定很有趣，很像游戏排局 “拉网捕鱼”，可惜我也不知 “拉网捕鱼” 的正确着法。
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期待棋友们参与探讨，最终有个理想结果。

sdndsx · 发表于 2016-12-2 08:15:56

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迟暮寒士发表于 2016-12-1 23:16
这局棋一定很有趣，很像游戏排局 “拉网捕鱼”，可惜我也不知 “拉网捕鱼” 的正确着法。

谢谢您！

最初的设想：
1 如果红马能够突破五个黑卒的封锁，可形成红方马双兵必胜黑方士象全的局面。
2 如果红马无法突破五个黑卒的封锁，红马双士防守五个黑卒有难度。
3 红马突破五个黑卒的封锁，步法唯一、曲折一点最好。
4 保持左右棋子对称最好。

sdndsx · 发表于 2016-12-2 08:17:49

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杨启忠 · 发表于 2016-12-2 08:51:01

1#，初步研究黑胜：

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sdndsx · 发表于 2016-12-2 09:15:38

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杨启忠发表于 2016-12-2 08:51
1#，初步研究黑胜：

谢谢您！

黑中卒后退一步
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-12-2 09:39:02

杨启忠发表于 2016-12-2 08:51
1#，初步研究黑胜：

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-12-2 10:27:59

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-12-2 11:14:04

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紅馬衝出去了

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-12-2 11:27:52

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★星海★ · 发表于 2016-12-2 14:25:37

聨吟客发表于 2016-12-2 11:27

怎么出去？

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-12-2 14:57:13

★星海★ 发表于 2016-12-2 14:25
怎么出去？

呵呵,我右邊的會走左邊的不會走,真是暈啊, 一時疏忽

聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-12-3 06:28:46

2 樓的正確結論為何?

聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-12-3 13:57:20

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2016-12-4 10:57 编辑

4 樓非常複雜.......... 還不確定結果..........

聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-12-4 10:46:44

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2016-12-4 10:55 编辑

4 樓非常複雜...............

聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-12-5 02:05:07

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2016-12-5 02:27 编辑

黑可能勝?
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sdndsx · 发表于 2016-12-5 06:53:39

聨吟客发表于 2016-12-5 02:05
黑可能勝?

谢谢您！

sdndsx · 发表于 2016-12-5 06:54:23

★星海★ 发表于 2016-12-2 14:25
怎么出去？

谢谢您！

sdndsx · 发表于 2016-12-5 06:59:20

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[DhtmlXQ_author]山东时鑫[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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sdndsx · 发表于 2016-12-5 07:09:38

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[DhtmlXQ_author]山东时鑫[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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sdndsx · 发表于 2016-12-5 07:15:24

各位老师：
为了方便棋局探讨，重新编辑啦。

最希望红马突破封锁，抢先一步取胜。

敬请老师帮扶！谢谢！

聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-12-5 08:20:42

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2016-12-5 08:43 编辑

時老師此局真是變幻莫測啊.....

sdndsx · 发表于 2016-12-5 18:28:26

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杨启忠 · 发表于 2016-12-6 09:08:39

迟暮寒士发表于 2016-12-1 23:16
这局棋一定很有趣，很像游戏排局 “拉网捕鱼”，可惜我也不知 “拉网捕鱼” 的正确着法。

初步结果，还请同志们完善：
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[DhtmlXQ_title]游戏排局——拉网捕鱼[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]棋谱由象棋桥生成。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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高原红 · 发表于 2016-12-6 13:50:01

本帖最后由高原红于 2016-12-6 14:20 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_title]游戏排局——拉网捕鱼[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]棋谱由象棋桥生成。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
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杨启忠 · 发表于 2016-12-6 13:57:05

高原红发表于 2016-12-6 13:50
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[DhtmlXQ_title]游戏排局——拉网捕鱼[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]棋谱由象棋桥生成。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17]？坏了[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
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sdndsx · 发表于 2016-12-8 09:19:14

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]这样简单了点。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-12-8 10:09:59

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]这样简单了点。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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sdndsx · 发表于 2016-12-8 10:27:12

本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2016-12-8 10:36 编辑

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sdndsx · 发表于 2016-12-8 10:34:37

本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2016-12-8 10:36 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]这样可和吗？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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